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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · How long in Bosque del Apache?


There have been some great posts on this forum in past years about wildlife at Bosque del Apache. We're planning to go this winter and those who have been might be able to help us. I'm trying to decide how many days we should spend there. My wife and I both like wildlife and take pictures when we can. We are up for fairly short and not very strenuous walks (2.5 miles round trip max.)

We'll have two solid days of driving each way and we have some constraints on time before and after the trip. Maybe a day around Albuquerque. Three days seems reasonable given the investment in travel time but I don't know whether that will be too little or too much in practice.

I will be grateful for your sharing your experiences.



Nov 07, 2016 at 02:55 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · How long in Bosque del Apache?


3 days works for me and add 1 day at White Sands and 1 day at Tent Rocks
we're going next month



Nov 07, 2016 at 02:59 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · How long in Bosque del Apache?


Hi,

Three days would be good, depending on the weather and your interests.

I normally drive out once a year, arrive the afternoon 2 days before the full moon, shoot the sunset and (usually) the snow geese doing a blast-off. This gives me time to do the loop drive to check on bird locations for the next morning (generally along the entrance road and the north loop the last few years).

1st full day I try to get in place (about an easy half hour drive from Socorro) at least 45 minutes before sunrise. If it is warm (above freezing) the birds will already be stirring, if not they won't start movement till sunrise. I shoot till the birds have scattered, then go looking (at least two complete slow loops around north and south) for other birds and deer, etc. I take a break and have a snack, then decide on my evening position and get into place. Sometimes I have to move depending on bird movement and weather, but you have time if needed.

2nd full day is generally the full moon for me and I try to work it both morning and evening with my long lens if the birds and weather cooperate.

3rd day is the same type of shooting, just different light.

There are several short hikes you can make, less than a mile in most cases. One (south loop) is a nice stroll through the woods and grasslands to an overlook area at one of the big crop fields where the geese and cranes will come in and spend the day. We have gotten nice shots of deer, raptors, and javalina there. Another (south loop also) is located along permanent ponds and has a nice boardwalk.

Be sure to stop at the visitors center and read about the mountain lines. No one has ever been attacked, but they are resident on the refuge (which is why some the trails on the east side of the river are now closed).

You will want at least two cameras. One with your biggest lens -- rent a 500/600 + a teleconverter if you don't have one. The second will be a shorter tele (I use the 80-400) for closer/wider work. You will want to change the second one out for a wider angle - like the 24-70 for the early morning and late evening "blast off" events.

Your car will be your blind when driving the loop, but don't get trapped in it like most folks. Anywhere you can drive you can also get out an walk, you just have to stay on the marked walking trails and roads. Along the irrigation canals you can often get better angles and lighting by sneaking around your car to the edge of the road and then along the brush line.

If you go to other areas like White Sands, plan on checking out of Socorro and staying near your destination. Distances and travel times are deceiving, especially with the short days of winter.

If you have any specific questions just post them or send a PM to TRENCHMONKEY, he lives out there and knows what works and how to have a good time as well. He has a lot of posts here, so search for him and you will be able to have a great time.

If it snows on you, get out there and stay (unless they close), the photography with the birds will be wonderful.

Gene



Nov 07, 2016 at 06:50 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · How long in Bosque del Apache?


We usually spend 3, 4 or 5 full days when we visit BdA. We spend a fair amount of time slowly driving the roads on the reserve. It seems like there is almost always something different to see. When we were there last January, a lot of the cranes and geese were feeding at the Bernardo unit, north of Socorro. Hopefully they have the grain crop in better shape this year. They change some of the flooded areas every year and the birds also seem to change their roosting location frequently. It's a good idea to see where they settle the night before planning a pre-dawn outing. Trenchmonkey indicated that the birds were late this season because of warmer weather. We are planning on being there during Thanksgiving week.

Art



Nov 07, 2016 at 08:05 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · How long in Bosque del Apache?


I have to echo Art's sentiment that things are constantly changing as you drive around. I've been three or four times and have seen a pretty wide variety of subjects.

In addition to the geese and cranes, I've seen eagles, whooping cranes, several species of hawks, roadrunners, pheasant, egrets, black crowned night herons, great horned owls, several species of ducks and gambel's quail up by the visitor center.

Mammals have included coyotes, rabbits, beavers, badger, mule deer and it might sound crazy but one year I thought I spotted a couple of elk at dawn on the north side of the property.

I've always used the longest glass I owned, while shooting shorter lenses for "lift offs" and landscapes.

Regarding Albuquerque, I've heard that the zoo can be productive for ducks at short range as well. No first hand knowledge.

Historically, Socorro has been relatively inexpensive for hotels/motels, but if you're headed out in November or later, bring your woolies. It can get pretty chilly.





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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · How long in Bosque del Apache?


But I thought you were done here:

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1458305/0#13789592

Or does that mean you won't be posting any images



Nov 08, 2016 at 02:03 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · How long in Bosque del Apache?


Thanks all who gave me good information. I really appreciate your responding positively to my request.





Nov 08, 2016 at 02:25 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · How long in Bosque del Apache?


Imagemaster wrote:
But I thought you were done here:

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1458305/0#13789592

Or does that mean you won't be posting any images


In a post in the new m43 forum, I expressed my feeling that having to store images elsewhere or pay to insert images direct directly in my posts was not acceptable to me. I didn't call anyone names or badmouth anything. The replies to that post were quite hostile. I was called lazy, stupid and told that I should learn to use the image hosting services that I said that I used. I explained my reasons for my point of view. I didn't say that my point of view was the only possible one. However, a number of people considered that my questioning anything about this forum was a capital offense.

Photographing subjects that interest me is a joy to me. I'm looking for online communities that are positive and willing to accept a difference of opinion. So I doubt that I will post in the m43 forum.




Nov 08, 2016 at 02:35 PM





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