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Is this a bug or just my settings on the TAP?
Using Canon 100 2.8 FD on TAP....I have parking set to F45 (stay at current position), plus using AF-C so I can focus and hit MF then recompose.
When I shoot a infinity shot and hit MF everything is fine. Then if I return to AF and shoot a closer subject (approx. 15 feet away), I get focus confirmation, however the shot is not in focus no matter how may shots I take. If I switch to MF I see the problem in that the lens cannot actually focus on subject because adapter is not in correct position. I have to then aim at something infinity and take a shot (in AF) and everything is fine from there on. I presume that parking at F45 throws off the adapter somewhat. I could park at infinity however then I would not be able to focus and recompose when I hit MF as the adapter would zoom to ininity. Anyone know if this in normal, or a workaround? Many thaks.



Sep 22, 2016 at 02:03 PM
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Received my TAP and C/Y adapter from Techart today... minimal testing shows great with C Sonnar, C/Y 100/2 and pretty good with C/Y 35-70...

Two questions:

1) Can anyone confirm if any cheap OM-LM adapters work with TAP? I'd like to adapt an OM 50/2.

2) And does the max aperture in the default config matter? What does it do? Wondering if I need to create a 50/1.5 profile for the Sonnar and 35/50/70 f3.4 profiles for the C/Y zoom.

Apologies if answered earlier, I read most of the thread and tried some searches to no avail.



Sep 22, 2016 at 06:13 PM
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Folks, I received the TAP last night and played around with it a bit on my A7RII today. The firmware is 4.0. I have a 1965 Leica TELE ELMAR 135mm f/4, and a brand new Voigtlander Ultron 35mm f1.7.

For the Leica, the AF is hit and miss, a lot more misses than hits. I had to sort of "pre-focus" with the focus ring before I let the AF to take over, otherwise it would not AF correctly, didn't matter I parked the FL at infinity or at the min. FL. Those little green squares only lit up maybe 1 out of 10 times. Are they for focus confirmation?

For the Voigtlander 35mm, AF is much easier and the little green squares lit up more often, still not every time. i haven't figured out how to set the EXIF correctly. I remember it was discussed somewhere in this thread. Anyway, here are a few shots that I believe are in focus. All JPEG straight out of the camera.

1,2, 3: Voigtlander 35mm, the rest were shot with the Leica 135mm



[url=https://flic.kr/p/MuTkvZ]DSC04595 by Douglas Liu, on Flickr[/url]

[url=https://flic.kr/p/LxxjSn]DSC04597 by Douglas Liu, on Flickr[/url]

[url=https://flic.kr/p/LxxjHp]DSC04600 by Douglas Liu, on Flickr[/url]

[url=https://flic.kr/p/LxsMLJ]DSC04652 by Douglas Liu, on Flickr[/url]

[url=https://flic.kr/p/MuTjNr]DSC04618 by Douglas Liu, on Flickr[/url]

[url=https://flic.kr/p/MuTk1R]DSC04615 by Douglas Liu, on Flickr[/url]



[url=https://flic.kr/p/MuTjwp]DSC04634 by Douglas Liu, on Flickr[/url]



Sep 22, 2016 at 06:41 PM
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Any lens longer than 50mm you have to be prepared to manually mechanically pre-focus it, so that the TAP motor can reach focus within its 4.5mm of reach.
After powering on the camera. the TAP moves the lens out and back in and rests it at the infinity position. Then you take it from there.

K-H.



Sep 22, 2016 at 06:58 PM
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k-h.a.w wrote:
Any lens longer than 50mm you have to be prepared to manually mechanically pre-focus it, so that the TAP motor can reach focus within its 4.5mm of reach.
After powering on the camera. the TAP moves the lens out and back in and rests it at the infinity position. Then you take it from there.

K-H.


Thank you, K-H.



Sep 22, 2016 at 07:05 PM
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I just got a ZM 85/4 (couple days back) and after reading about the Leica and seeing Fred's example -- was considering switching. But for the size and weight (and cost), I think will stick with the ZM. For landscapes likely shoot 5.6 or higher anyway. Maybe its best if Fred does not post any f5.6 or 8 comparisons.

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I did some tests with the 90/2 AA today. First let me say that I've never seen a decentered Leica lens. Granted, I've only tested around 5 or 6 lenses in total but they were all perfectly centered. It's nice to have that piece of mind when purchasing it used.

So, how does it perform?...I will be direct and state that it beats my ZM 85/4 at infinity and that is very hard to do. There is more micro detail with the Leica center/mid-field and edges. It's noticeable at 1:1. That is true at f/4 and f/5.6 and it makes
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Sep 22, 2016 at 07:51 PM
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So far not too great on the FDn 135mm 2.8. Will try again in better light tomorrow but in low light it's nowhere near as "locky" as the Sonnar C or some of the other faster MF glass I've got. Another week or so before my MD adapter comes in off the boat... :sigh:


Sep 22, 2016 at 08:41 PM
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I've read quite a bit of this thread and I've seen early on people mention that the original A7 definitely doesn't work with this adapter. Is this still the case with subsequent firmware updates for the adapter?

I also haven't seen many people mentioning using the A7II with it. Is there anyone using this combo? Does it work as well as the A7RII?

I haven't really seen much of a need to upgrade to the A7II from my A7, but if this adapter becomes usable, that is quite attractive. Would love to have AF + IBIS with my CY35-70 and Alpa 50 macro which has such a long focus throw that it is pretty tiresome for general use.

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Sep 22, 2016 at 08:58 PM
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mark1958 wrote:
I just got a ZM 85/4 (couple days back) and after reading about the Leica and seeing Fred's example -- was considering switching. But for the size and weight (and cost), I think will stick with the ZM. For landscapes likely shoot 5.6 or higher anyway. Maybe its best if Fred does not post any f5.6 or 8 comparisons.


He did say pretty similar at f8!



Sep 22, 2016 at 08:58 PM
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BrandonSi wrote:
So far not too great on the FDn 135mm 2.8. Will try again in better light tomorrow but in low light it's nowhere near as "locky" as the Sonnar C or some of the other faster MF glass I've got. Another week or so before my MD adapter comes in off the boat... :sigh:


Same observation on the MD 135/2.8. It works better on wider lenses.




Sep 22, 2016 at 08:59 PM
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Yes; no update will make it work in the original series. It's down to the way Sonys PDAF works on the II series. TAP works on the A7ii, but probably better on The A7rii which is all I've used it on.

cams884 wrote:
I've read quite a bit of this thread and I've seen early on people mention that the original A7 definitely doesn't work with this adapter. Is this still the case with subsequent firmware updates for the adapter?

I also haven't seen many people mentioning using the A7II with it. Is there anyone using this combo? Does it work as well as the A7RII?

I haven't really seen much of a need to upgrade to the A7II from my A7, but if this adapter becomes usable, that is quite attractive. Would love to have AF + IBIS with my CY35-70 and
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Sep 22, 2016 at 09:03 PM
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DavidBM wrote:
Yes; no update will make it work in the original series. It's down to the way Sonys PDAF works on the II series. TAP works on the A7ii, but probably better on The A7rii which is all I've used it on.


Sure, they work best on the A7RII, but all their videos show them using an A7R, which is very misleading.



Sep 22, 2016 at 09:10 PM
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BrandonSi wrote:
So far not too great on the FDn 135mm 2.8. Will try again in better light tomorrow but in low light it's nowhere near as "locky" as the Sonnar C or some of the other faster MF glass I've got. Another week or so before my MD adapter comes in off the boat... :sigh:


I was surprised late this afternoon when shooting with a Sonnar 135mm F2.8. I was hoping to capture a scurrying chipmunk, and to my surprise, it locked on as soon as it stopped for just a second. Too far away to get an interesting shot, but the focus was super-quick (I had pre-manually focused, as is always necessary with longer FLs).
Sun was going down, so light wasn't great, but semi decent (camera auto-selected ISO 5000, for reference). Center focus, Flexible spot-small, AFS.


The only PP was to adjust the exposure compensation a bit. Not a "nice" photo, but for reference. ~80% crop.

Chipmunk1 by lareginl, on Flickr





Sep 22, 2016 at 09:27 PM
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bluloo wrote:
I was surprised late this afternoon when shooting with a Sonnar 135mm F2.8. I was hoping to capture a scurrying chipmunk, and to my surprise, it locked on as soon as it stopped for just a second. Too far away to get an interesting shot, but the focus was super-quick (I had pre-manually focused, as is always necessary with longer FLs).
Sun was going down, so light wasn't great, but semi decent (camera auto-selected ISO 5000, for reference). Center focus, Flexible spot-small, AFS.

The only PP was to adjust the exposure compensation a bit. Not a "nice" photo, but for reference. ~80%
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Interesting.. I'm not familiar with that design.. does the front element move out and in as you focus? I know the FDn 135 2.8 front element moves out at least 2-3 inches when focusing from infinity to MFD. Wondering if that travel distance might somehow be related.

I'm of course pre-focusing, but even with a decent pre-focus before engaging AF, it's still not very good.



Sep 22, 2016 at 09:35 PM
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Is there any way to update the TEchart Pro if you don't have a phone to use?

I have a Samsung phone but it has Android 4.2 and can not be updated. The download doesn't work. Any ideas?

Nevermind. I downloaded the updater to my iPad and am using that. I thought I had to have an iPhone. My Android based phone doesn't work. I guess the OS isn't new enough. Seems a strange limitation to require a phone when it should be doable with a computer.

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Sep 22, 2016 at 10:28 PM
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sflxn wrote:
Sure, they work best on the A7RII, but all their videos show them using an A7R, which is very misleading.


Why misleading? If it works for them?



Sep 22, 2016 at 11:03 PM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
I did some tests with the 90/2 AA today. First let me say that I've never seen a decentered Leica lens. Granted, I've only tested around 5 or 6 lenses in total but they were all perfectly centered. It's nice to have that piece of mind when purchasing it used.

So, how does it perform?...I will be direct and state that it beats my ZM 85/4 at infinity and that is very hard to do. There is more micro detail with the Leica center/mid-field and edges. It's noticeable at 1:1. That is true at f/4 and f/5.6 and it makes
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Fred, in Phillip Reeve's review of the 90mm f/2 Summicron-M, he writes:

"The general quality of the bokeh is very good, no onion rings, no outlining. But on stopping down the shape of highlights changes: at f2.0 they are perfectly round (except for the border regions, where mechanical vignetting occurs), between f2.8 and f8 they can best be described as “crown cork” shaped (take a look at the example below), at f11 they are edgy 11-sided-figures and at f16 perfectly round again. To be totally honest here: I don’t like these “crown cork” shaped highlights (as much as I don’t like the highlights produced by perfectly straight blades for portrait shots as well), so I tried to find out why Leica chose to use these inwardly curved aperture blades, but I did not yet manage to come across a believable reason."

His f2.0 / f4.0 bokeh comparison displays this clearly and he notes that these inwardly curved aperture blades are "still present in today’s APO-Summicron", something I confirmed by looking at an eBay seller's photo of a partly stopped-down APO-Summicron 90mm.

He does add, however: "Fortunately sharpness and resolution are already very good at f2.0 so this isn’t bothering me too much." The portrait of your daughter on the previous page confirms this but I was wondering if you'd encountered the irregular highlight shapes from f2.8 to f11.



Sep 22, 2016 at 11:49 PM
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cams884 wrote:
I've read quite a bit of this thread and I've seen early on people mention that the original A7 definitely doesn't work with this adapter. Is this still the case with subsequent firmware updates for the adapter?

I also haven't seen many people mentioning using the A7II with it. Is there anyone using this combo? Does it work as well as the A7RII?

I haven't really seen much of a need to upgrade to the A7II from my A7, but if this adapter becomes usable, that is quite attractive. Would love to have AF + IBIS with my CY35-70 and
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I'm using the TAP on 7II not RII. It works excellent with Elmarit-M 28mm, Summilux-M 50mm, Summicron-R 50mm even better, Summicron-M AA 90mm.




Sep 23, 2016 at 12:00 AM
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Besides going through this thread, again, as I did it over time as it was being added to but have forgotten a lot as I didn't have the TAP, is there a real manual besides the one online and that comes with the TAP, which are the same? Some things just aren't clear to me, like the recording of the lens you are using. It would seem you have to remember the fstop associated with the length of lens you use and enter it each time you change lenses. Which I guess makes sense, since there is no electrical information from the lenses but if you are trying to get something done fast, it isn't going to happen.

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Sep 23, 2016 at 12:25 AM
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Beni wrote:
Why misleading? If it works for them?


So it works well on the A7R! That's a surprise



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