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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Contax CY 18/4


Any experience with this lens? I have the FE 16-35 but because of the size I rarely use it. The 18 is small and I've read som praise for it but what do the trusted FM-community say?

Thanks in advance.



May 03, 2016 at 03:40 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Contax CY 18/4


Wilhelm,
I'm almost sure my fellow Seattlite Mike Reid has this one and the 16-35.
He should be able to provide feedback on it.

JayT



May 03, 2016 at 05:04 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Contax CY 18/4


Hi Wilhelm,

I've owned many Zeiss Contax and ZE lenses. I intentionally stayed away from the 18/4 CY because its reviews weren't so good. Here's what Tom Shea had to say about it,

"18 f4.0. This is one of the older lens designs, but it works well. There is some light falloff and some distortion. It does not use an aspherical element. It is better for close range photography than at a distance. I like the very wide perspective for occasional dramatic shots. It is relatively inexpensive compared to its two more extreme 16 and 15 mm brothers, which I have not used."

Ref. Tom Shea on Zeiss / Contax SLR Lenses, http://photo.net/equipment/contax/shea-lenses

I wanted a good 18mm lens for mostly landscape situations when my TS-E 17/4L and EF 16-35/4L IS (then 16-35/2.8L II) are too big. Tom's comment about the 18/4 being well-suited for close range photography didn't work well for me, and so I bought the 18/3.5 ZE. The 18/3.5 ZE is quite a bit larger than the 18/4 ZE, but it's still significantly smaller than the Zeiss 21/2.8 ZE and CY, and it's a lot smaller than my Canon ultra wide lenses. The 18/3.5 ZE sometimes gets lost under the shadow of its big brother, the 21/2.8 ZE (which I also owned), but it still serves me very well.

If you want a smaller lens than the 18/3.5 ZE, then I think the Olympus OM 18/3.5 is worth consideration. It's also a fair bit smaller than the 18/4 CY. I compared the Oly 18/3.5 with the Zeiss 18mm f/3.5 ZE, Canon TS-E 17/4L, and Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L II in this 2014 thread,

Lens tests, 17mm/18mm [2014-01-15] https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1267345/0&year=2014#12071912

If small size had been one of my leading criteria at the time I did those tests, I'd still have the Oly 18/3.5 OM.

All of the lenses mentioned in this post are in Lens$db.



May 03, 2016 at 05:35 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Contax CY 18/4


You'll have much better luck with something like the Batis 2.8/18. Fabulous lens, though the price matches said fabulousness. (Though, relatively speaking, it's still well-priced.)


May 03, 2016 at 07:57 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Contax CY 18/4


for the 18mm f4, size is very good, small and light. the front of the lens is not threaded to take filters. distortion is better than the samyang 14mm i feel. the 18mm does not have the pop and microcontrast of the 21mm f2.8. sharpness is pretty good. i use it on a shift adapter on my A7

Misty Spring by Jun Zheng, on Flickr

Fashionable Guy by Jun Zheng, on Flickr



May 03, 2016 at 09:53 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Contax CY 18/4


Thank you for useful information and links. There is one on sale here but I think I'll pass, apparently in very good condition but pricey.


May 04, 2016 at 01:31 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Contax CY 18/4


Yes I had one....sold it for the 16-35 Sony. I loved the size but not the price. Also things go easier with the gf if I can say that a lens left the house as a new one came in.

Pretty sure this was a 18/4 shot




May 04, 2016 at 01:57 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Contax CY 18/4


found more...18mm in Tresor Berlin




Hood Canal Sunrise




May 04, 2016 at 02:49 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Contax CY 18/4


While it is not very fast I always end up to use this lens in museums.










May 05, 2016 at 05:17 AM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Contax CY 18/4


banpreso wrote:
for the 18mm f4, size is very good, small and light. the front of the lens is not threaded to take filters. distortion is better than the samyang 14mm i feel. the 18mm does not have the pop and microcontrast of the 21mm f2.8. sharpness is pretty good. i use it on a shift adapter on my A7


I am curious if the 18mm on a shift adapter vignettes much more on a FF camera. What are your experiences and which adapter did you buy? If you have the time, of course



May 05, 2016 at 05:25 AM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Contax CY 18/4


i have a shift adapter with Kipon. the first photo was taken with shift up with vingette corrected in post. it's doable if you don't shift all the way.


May 05, 2016 at 09:32 AM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Contax CY 18/4


Michiel, what would you say about the sharpness of that lens?

(I know you have a vast range of alternatives ... :- )



May 05, 2016 at 02:42 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Contax CY 18/4


wfrank wrote:
Michiel, what would you say about the sharpness of that lens?

(I know you have a vast range of alternatives ... :- )


I used the lens today extensivly again outside, but I don't like it as much as I used to, but I am a bit spoiled by the Pentax 645Z.
I don't know but somehow I prefer to use it inside. The corners are a bit weak, less so if you cropp off some of it.

Actually I don't have that many modern new alternatives, because I didn't invest in the new Sony lenses, but if I was I would buy the 21 Loxia as my main wide lens.
Yes I do have a lot of legacy alternatives like the Canon 20,24, an M39 VC15 and the new VC 21/1.8. Now that I think of it I should test that first how it would be on the A7rII, if I bought one, to check the margenta cast. It is plenty sharp.




May 05, 2016 at 03:52 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Contax CY 18/4


Here's another one from today. I did use the lensprofile from the Zeiss 18/3.5 ZE and probably some vertical correction as well.




May 05, 2016 at 03:56 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Contax CY 18/4


As I forgot to mention in answer to your question; it is quiet sharp but the corners wide open are a bit weak. But no color problems on the A7r in the corners. And in deed it is a rather small lens.


May 05, 2016 at 04:00 PM





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