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Steve Perry
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · D500 Vs D7200 ISO Test


So, I was curious if my D500 was really that much better than my D7200 at higher ISOs and I decided to do a test.

Both cameras were on a tripod, the light was dim (event hough it doesn't look it in the photos), shutter speeds, ISOs, and F/Stop were consistent between the two. RAW files, no noise reduction at all.

In my opinion, it seems like the D500 has at least a 1/2 stop advantage over the D7200 and it may be closer to 2/3rds of a stop, especially at ISO 12,800.

The first image is the overall photo, the rest are 100% comparisons in LR. I apologize for the large sizes. I personally probably won't go much above 3200, but it's nice to have the improvement over the D7200.








overall image







ISO 1600







ISO 3200







ISO 6400







ISO 12,800




Apr 21, 2016 at 08:49 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · D500 Vs D7200 ISO Test


What does it look like after fixing the noise in LR?

Thanks for doing some checks for everyone.



Apr 21, 2016 at 09:18 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · D500 Vs D7200 ISO Test


I had hoped for a 1/2 stop difference, but it appears that there is a 2/3 to full stop improvement in noise improvement between the two cameras.

Thanks for doing this.
bruce



Apr 21, 2016 at 09:24 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · D500 Vs D7200 ISO Test


OwlsEyes wrote:
I had hoped for a 1/2 stop difference, but it appears that there is a 2/3 to full stop improvement in noise improvement between the two cameras.

Thanks for doing this.
bruce


Not that I doubt the possibility, but are you sure you're seeing that difference with the shots above? I'm having a hard time telling them apart when looking at 12,800.



Apr 21, 2016 at 09:30 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · D500 Vs D7200 ISO Test


The D7200 looks softer at 6,400 and 12,800 but I can't see much difference in the noise level.


Apr 21, 2016 at 09:56 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · D500 Vs D7200 ISO Test


The D500's grains look smaller,nicer and subtle.Hence seems to be more manageable in PP.

Another point (from these images and others posted) is that the DR looks to be improved in D500.That is really nice.




Apr 21, 2016 at 10:06 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · D500 Vs D7200 ISO Test


Thanks Steve, I've been waiting for these types of comparisons.

Overall it looks like a marginal improvement. However the shadow areas look noticeably better on the D500 to me.

Any opinion yet on low ISO performance, did they sacrifice anything on low end to gain on the high?



Apr 21, 2016 at 10:15 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · D500 Vs D7200 ISO Test


johnctharp wrote:
Not that I doubt the possibility, but are you sure you're seeing that difference with the shots above? I'm having a hard time telling them apart when looking at 12,800.


Look at the typing on the bottle.



Apr 21, 2016 at 11:04 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · D500 Vs D7200 ISO Test


If someone has a D750 and can do this sort of comparison I think that would be very telling.


Apr 21, 2016 at 11:12 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · D500 Vs D7200 ISO Test


I'd be interested in seeing if the 1/2 to 2/3 stop advantage disappears when the D7200 file is downsampled to D500 size.

Edited on Apr 21, 2016 at 11:48 PM · View previous versions



Apr 21, 2016 at 11:20 PM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · D500 Vs D7200 ISO Test


Thanks for these tests Steve. Keep in mind the D7200 has 15% more pixels than the D500, which is significant when comparing noise at 100%. Can you post with both downsampled to a common resolution, say 8MP? Thanks!


Apr 21, 2016 at 11:44 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · D500 Vs D7200 ISO Test


D500 looking quite good here particularly at 12800. If I try to read the writing on the Dust Remover bottle I can make out many more words than on the D7200. Here, downsampling to whatever size will not make the D7200 lost detail reappear.


Apr 22, 2016 at 01:38 AM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · D500 Vs D7200 ISO Test


I may not have had enough coffee yet but (as expected) I can't see that much of an improvement. As others have pointed out, 20 vs. 24 mp is a significant difference, so the gap will get even smaller once you downsize the D7200 files to the D500 resolution. OP, thanks for doing the test!


Apr 22, 2016 at 02:03 AM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · D500 Vs D7200 ISO Test


PIXPHATIC wrote:
The D500's grains look smaller,nicer and subtle.Hence seems to be more manageable in PP.

Another point (from these images and others posted) is that the DR looks to be improved in D500.That is really nice.



This is what I am seeing and why I stated that there appears to be a 2/3 to 1 stop advantage. The tighter noise pattern in the D500 makes this appear to produce a cleaner file at higher iso's. However, and I should have stated this in my prior response, the difference we may be seeing is the reduction of 4 megapixels. The D7200's noise will be magnified more relative to the D500. In the end, the noise difference might be more due to resolution than to better sensor/processing.
Regardless... I'll gladly give up a bit of resolution for a cleaner file in my wildlife body

cheers,
bruce



Apr 22, 2016 at 05:38 AM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · D500 Vs D7200 ISO Test


Thanks for this, Steve. Color and dynamic range @ ISO 6400 look like they would still be okay for frame-filling wildlife images taken in good light (noise looks unobtrusive.) I draw the line at ISO 3200, maybe 4500 with my D8xx bodies. The D500 may be a good replacement for my D800, which is starting to show some signs of age.

Christian



Apr 22, 2016 at 08:28 AM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · D500 Vs D7200 ISO Test


OK, as requested, here are a few more. This round, it's the same pics but with the D7200 downsized to the D500 size.

It almost looks like the D500 is better in the shadows but the D7200 looks cleaner in the brighter areas. Or I may be seeing things at this point from starting at this stuff for too long







1600







3200







6400







12800




Apr 22, 2016 at 08:30 AM
Steve Perry
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · D500 Vs D7200 ISO Test


snapsy wrote:
Thanks for these tests Steve. Keep in mind the D7200 has 15% more pixels than the D500, which is significant when comparing noise at 100%. Can you post with both downsampled to a common resolution, say 8MP? Thanks!


Just for you

These are 8MP comparisons. I can't really see any difference, other than the D500 seems to have better range in the shadows (something I noticed throughout the testing)





1600







3200







6400







12800




Apr 22, 2016 at 08:37 AM
Steve Perry
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · D500 Vs D7200 ISO Test


morrismike wrote:
What does it look like after fixing the noise in LR?

Thanks for doing some checks for everyone.


Here's the ISO 3200 image with a little LR NR thrown in. I can probalby do even better if I play with it more, but it takes NR pretty well IMO.









Apr 22, 2016 at 08:42 AM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · D500 Vs D7200 ISO Test


Steve Perry wrote:
Just for you

These are 8MP comparisons. I can't really see any difference, other than the D500 seems to have better range in the shadows (something I noticed throughout the testing)


Awesome, thanks Steve. Any chance you can share the raws for both cameras in this series?



Apr 22, 2016 at 08:46 AM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · D500 Vs D7200 ISO Test


snapsy wrote:
Awesome, thanks Steve. Any chance you can share the raws for both cameras in this series?


Sure thing:

http://www.dropbox.com/s/unyttgkg2hkhz78/d500-d7200-raw.zip?dl=0

All of them are in a zip file



Apr 22, 2016 at 09:05 AM
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