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Archive 2015 · List of third party lenses that are OUTSTANDING on A7Rii - ADD YOURS

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For me the outstanding third party lens for A7R II is the manual focusing Samyang 135/2, available in E-mount. Only downside is size but not much can be done about that.

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1382567/0?keyword=x#13161492

Dec 29, 2015 at 06:50 AM

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My sigma art 50 is brilliant on this camera. As mentioned earlier manual focus is a pleasure

Dec 29, 2015 at 08:37 AM

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mhespenheide wrote:
I don't have an a7r2, only an a7r.

I don't have any of the true exotics and I don't know that I ever will given budgetary restraints, so perhaps I don't have an appreciation of the highest classes of lenses.

But the Contax 35-70mm f/3.4 is remarkable on the a7r. By my definition/experience, it is outstanding once stopped down to f/5.6 or f/8. I would expect the same on the a7r2.

I have only the A7 -- planning to upgrade soon -- but I have had both the Contax 35-70 f3.4 and the Minolta MD 35-70 f3.5. The Contax is an excellent lens, but to my surprise the Minolta easily outperformed the Contax. As a result I sold the Contax. There are three versions of the Minolta, the second two are optically identical, except 3 has a useful macro setting. The first version is a different optical formula and is inferior (I had one of those also). This lens I understand is the same one as the Leica Vario-Elmar-R 35-70mm f/3.5.

Finally one can easily remove a stop in the Minolta and it goes down to 2.8 with no apparent loss of IQ. It was put there apparently to make it a constant 3.5, as 2.8 doesn't work above 60mm.

Dec 29, 2015 at 10:40 AM

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I was so impressed-- i purchased two of them in case one ever got stolen

DavidBM wrote:
I got one a few months ago for around US1300 in Pentax screw mount, absolutely mint (which makes me a bit nervous as I feel it's somehow a collectors item and I worry about it in my backpack. But that's the cheapest I've seen. I envy the previous poster who got a K mount one for 900!

It is lovely. I've built some baffling out of telescope flocking which I've inserted in the novoflex adapter, to make a rectangular opening modelled on the one in Metabones adapters. It seems to up the contrast wide open.

Net result is that it's pretty...Show more →

Dec 29, 2015 at 12:36 PM

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MAubrey wrote:
In terms of resolution and contrast, you can see measured MTF's here (Google Translate Source):

http://www.marcocavina.com/articoli_fotografici/TEST_85mm_f_1,2/03_1,2_infinite.gif
http://www.marcocavina.com/articoli_fotografici/TEST_85mm_f_1,2/04_2_infinite.gif
http://www.marcocavina.com/articoli_fotografici/TEST_85mm_f_1,2/05_2,8_infinite.gif
http://www.marcocavina.com/articoli_fotografici/TEST_85mm_f_1,2/07_5,6_infinite.gif

They're basically identical with each lens "winning" in different places across the frame and apertures.

Thanks for answering this and posting these, but I am MTF graph illiterate. Can you translate and tell me which lens is best where?

Dec 29, 2015 at 01:30 PM

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snowboarder wrote:
Yes, I've been looking for one for a while. There was one sold here recently for almost 2 grand...

Jeez.

It's a great lens, and I'm comfortable with the $1100 I paid a few years ago. But at $2000 I don't think I would do it. That's almost as over-the-top as the 125/2.5. It's hard to believe it was actually a good idea to stop making those two lenses, Cosina.

Dec 29, 2015 at 03:15 PM

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TheEmrys wrote:
Minolta 35-105 and 100/2. 200/2.8. Sony 135/1.8 is staggering. Wouldn't trade it for a Zeiss 135 APO. Sony Zeiss 85/1.4. Minolta 35/1.4 G.

Minolta or Sony 135STF. So, so easy to use. And such a unique lens. Best bokeh in the world.

Tyler - I'm really interested in the Minolta 35/1.4 - how is it wide open on the A7RII?

ben

Dec 29, 2015 at 04:05 PM

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snowboarder wrote:
How do you sell your lenses these days? Seems super hard, I can see tons
of good glass sitting here for ages and eb@y has been unusable,
with the "excellent" 6 month no question asked return paypal policy

I've also got a bunch of lenses that I need to sell. Considering how long stuff hangs on the buy and sell board, I was thinking of selling them to KEH. Does anyone have a good handle on how KEH's prices to buy compare to what you can get on the board here or on eBay?

Dec 29, 2015 at 06:39 PM

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As far as the CV 180 goes, I've got one and I find it great at close and medium distances, but it's infinity performance is not up with the best of them.

Dec 29, 2015 at 06:42 PM

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Jeff- I've sold items to KEH in person at a local camera show.
Expect price to be roughly half of what they are going to sell on their site.
I've also sold a lens to adorama. Also a little over half of their selling price.
The items I sold were not really popular items and would have taken a while if I posted on B&S forum but probably could have gotten more money.

Dec 29, 2015 at 07:18 PM

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Thanks Zplusc3, that gives me an easy way to check and decide if it's worth the hassle. My inclination is to give it a go here for a few weeks and if it doesn't sell at a price I'm comfortable with then go to KEH.

Dec 29, 2015 at 07:26 PM

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nehemiahphoto wrote:
Thanks for answering this and posting these, but I am MTF graph illiterate. Can you translate and tell me which lens is best where?

In simple terms...
Three sets of lines. The top set is contrast and the other two are finer and finer amounts of resolved detail.
On the horizontal axis, you're moving from the center of the frame to the edge of the frame.

For each set:
Higher is better.
The closer together the two lines in each set the better.

Dec 29, 2015 at 07:51 PM

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bruni wrote:
Tyler - I'm really interested in the Minolta 35/1.4 - how is it wide open on the A7RII?

ben

Ben, I can't speak to the a7rII, or even the a7 or a7II, as I had it on the a99. But, its tremendous... but from 4'-10'. Beyond that, it is rather boring. But incredibly special in that range. Its an odd lens. It might be my favorite 35mm in that range. But outside of that range, I can think of a couple of zooms that are as good. Its just sort of ordinary. But if you thrive in that distance, its lovely. Definitely not a lens for everyone, or even most. But for those few, its special.

Jan 01, 2016 at 12:22 PM

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Guys, please excuse my ignorance. If wide angle fixed focal length M lenses don't play well with the Sony sensor, then why does the WATE?

Also, I have a bunch of old glass I acquired for use with my A7S but recently sold it to go to the A7RII. Really neat stuff like OM 21/3.5, 50/1.2, 100/2, Rokkor 58/1.2, Canon FD 80-200/4L, Nikon 28/2.8 AIS, 50/1.2 AI, 90mm Bokina, and a couple of Zeiss ZF mounts and Leica M mounts, etc. Except for the Zeiss and Leica glass, I'm really worried about what I'm going to see with the others when I purchase an A7RII. Will I be disappointed and eventually sell them?

The A7S resolution was just a bit too small for me (but forgiving). And if your answer is that my old glass is going to need to go, I can throw in the possibilities of purchasing an A7II instead of the A7RII or plan to use the A7RII in crop mode if the corners are the biggest issue. Your opinions here are most welcome as well. Thank you!!!

Jan 06, 2016 at 04:43 PM

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Jan 06, 2016 at 05:00 PM

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dog rocket wrote:
Guys, please excuse my ignorance. If wide angle fixed focal length M lenses don't play well with the Sony sensor, then why does the WATE?

Also, I have a bunch of old glass I acquired for use with my A7S but recently sold it to go to the A7RII. Really neat stuff like OM 21/3.5, 50/1.2, 100/2, Rokkor 58/1.2, Canon FD 80-200/4L, Nikon 28/2.8 AIS, 50/1.2 AI, 90mm Bokina, and a couple of Zeiss ZF mounts and Leica M mounts, etc. Except for the Zeiss and Leica glass, I'm really worried about what I'm going to see with the others...Show more →

The WATE's design keeps the exit pupil far enough away from the sensor to avoid too steep an angle of incidence on the light hitting the edges of the sensor. It's an entirely different design from, say, a ZM Biogon 21.

Only you can say what's acceptable to you. I shoot nothing but legacy lenses and while I'm only in my third week with the a7rII, I'm very happy with the ones I've used on it so far (Summilux-M 35 pre-A, Elmarit-M 28 vIII, Summicron-M 90 pre-AA, Tele-Elmar-M 135, APO-Elmarit-R 180, APO-Telyt-R 280/2.8 with and without the 1.4x, ZF 25/2, Rokkor 58/1.2, Canon FD 85/1.2, APO-Rodagon-N 50 and 75) and they haven't developed any newfound issues between the 7II and the 7rII. The fast primes vignette a little less at wider apertures on the 7rII, but the new sensor hasn't made any of my lenses unusable so far.

Jan 06, 2016 at 05:11 PM

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freaklikeme wrote:
The WATE's design keeps the exit pupil far enough away from the sensor to avoid too steep an angle of incidence on the light hitting the edges of the sensor. It's an entirely different design from, say, a ZM Biogon 21.

Perfect. Exactly what I expected to hear but needed to hear it. Thank you.

freaklikeme wrote:
Only you can say what's acceptable to you. I shoot nothing but legacy lenses and while I'm only in my third week with the a7rII, I'm very happy with the ones I've used on it so far (Summilux-M 35 pre-A, Elmarit-M 28 vIII, Summicron-M 90 pre-AA, Tele-Elmar-M 135, APO-Elmarit-R 180, APO-Telyt-R 280/2.8 with and without the 1.4x, ZF 25/2, Rokkor 58/1.2, Canon FD 85/1.2, APO-Rodagon-N 50 and 75) and they haven't developed any newfound issues between the 7II and the 7rII. The fast primes vignette a little less at wider apertures on the 7rII, but the new sensor hasn't...Show more →

Alrightythen! I will wait to see how they perform and settle it then. Again, thanks.

Jan 06, 2016 at 05:28 PM

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Michael Everet wrote:
I have only the A7 -- planning to upgrade soon -- but I have had both the Contax 35-70 f3.4 and the Minolta MD 35-70 f3.5. The Contax is an excellent lens, but to my surprise the Minolta easily outperformed the Contax. As a result I sold the Contax. There are three versions of the Minolta, the second two are optically identical, except 3 has a useful macro setting. The first version is a different optical formula and is inferior (I had one of those also). This lens I understand is the same one as the Leica Vario-Elmar-R 35-70mm...Show more →

I also have both these lenses on the A7 and that doesn't match my experiences. Although my copy of the Minolta 35-70 (Macro Version) seems to be a very fine and capable lens the Zeiss just gives me higher contrast and handles harsh light better. Might be my copies. However, I paid 10x as much for the Zeiss so the Minolta clearly wins in the value for money department.

Jan 06, 2016 at 05:33 PM

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Jan 06, 2016 at 06:45 PM

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Along the lines of Sebboh's comments on the Nikon 28, here are some test shots with the Nikon and full size files are available.

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1399363

-Tim

sebboh wrote:
only you can tell what you're satisfied with, but i think you'll be fine with the OM 100/2, rokkor 58/1.2, FD 80-200L, 28/2.8 ais (except for the corners), 50/1.2 ais, and bokina. no idea about the OM 50/1.2. the OM 21/3.5 will probably disappoint you on the 42mp sensor.

Jan 06, 2016 at 09:06 PM

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