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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR


Will you guys Dump your Tamron or Sigma for the new Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR
even if you are loosing 100mm ?


Francois



Aug 04, 2015 at 09:55 PM
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I'm considering dumping my Canon 100-400II and giving the 200-500 a shot if the IQ is up to par. I rarely use the short end and having that extra 100mm on the long end is huge for me.

I used both the Sigma and Tamron 150-600 offerings and neither were very impressive to me on a crop body, so I was always shooting with them on a full-frame. I'm hoping the 200-500 will give the same impressive sharpness wide open that the 100-400II does, but the price point makes me nervous in that regard.



Aug 04, 2015 at 10:28 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR


Me too i have both the Tammy and the Sigma sport version and i feel the same.

Francois



Aug 04, 2015 at 10:45 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR


I was very close to getting a Sigma C 150-600 for a lighter weight tele zoom but immediately pre-ordered the 200-500 instead. It is exactly what I want/need for a fraction of the price I was expecting. So excited!!!


Aug 04, 2015 at 11:49 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR


is this compatible with the 1.4 extender?


Aug 05, 2015 at 12:03 AM
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Schlotkins wrote:
is this compatible with the 1.4 extender?


Yes, the 1.4x makes it a 280-700mm f8 with AF on compatible bodies. Nikon says the 1.7x and 2x can also be used, though no AF with those.



Aug 05, 2015 at 01:27 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR


I'll wait for the tests first and will try to get a copy to test for myself.
If this lens is better I'll sell my Tamron, if not not I won't.



Aug 05, 2015 at 01:53 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR


It will come down to how good the image quality is at 500mm at 5.6. I would have no interest if the sharpness declined on the long end. The price is certainly inviting.


Aug 05, 2015 at 04:54 AM
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Price and lack of the high end coatings makes me very skeptical about what performance level Nikon targeted with this design.


Aug 05, 2015 at 05:38 AM
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Lee Saxon wrote:
Price and lack of the high end coatings makes me very skeptical about what performance level Nikon targeted with this design.


That's what I'm thinkin' too, Lee Love to be proven wrong...
but seriously doubt the IQ can touch the 80-400G at 400 f5.6
Few reasons: no Nano, 3 ED vs 4 ED & 1 Super ED elements.
MFD much worse and I wouldn't want to be limited to 200mm
on the short end (for those 'bonus' wildlife close encounters)



Aug 05, 2015 at 06:36 AM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR


It seems very inexpensive for a Nikon lens, it will be interesting to see the comparisons. I was about to go for the Sigma 150-600 but will now hang on, both for the comparisons and to see how a bit more competition in this area affects prices


Aug 05, 2015 at 06:43 AM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR


My experience with the 300L/4 IS and 400/5.6 is, despite their age, are in the upper end of the performance spectrum. I replaced both with the 100-400II for versatility.
The Nikon 200-500/5.6 looks appealing except the MFD which trenchmonkey noted. If it can perform like the 100-400II I may pick up a Nikon body and give it a try.



Aug 05, 2015 at 06:54 AM
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trenchmonkey wrote:
That's what I'm thinkin' too, Lee Love to be proven wrong...
but seriously doubt the IQ can touch the 80-400G at 400 f5.6
Few reasons: no Nano, 3 ED vs 4 ED & 1 Super ED elements.
MFD much worse and I wouldn't want to be limited to 200mm
on the short end (for those 'bonus' wildlife close encounters)


Remember that while the 80-400 is a 5x zoom (and the Sigma and Tamron 4x zooms), the new Nikkor is only a 2.5x zoom. Much easier to make, and something that hopefully will show in the image quality.



Aug 05, 2015 at 07:04 AM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR


Not holding my breath...
Knee jerk reaction to Tam/Sig $1000 offerings that
really got people considering 3rd party long zooms.
They're trying to stop the bleeding, but it'll appeal to
noobs and entry level DX shooters...and that's fine.


...after a few weeks with mine, I'm gladly eating my words.
Nikon totally hit this sucker out-of-the-park


Edited on Nov 21, 2015 at 09:05 PM · View previous versions



Aug 05, 2015 at 07:08 AM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR


According to the MTF's on the tele end, the 80-400g will have better contrast, and the 200-500 will have better resolution but with higher astigmatism (I assume this is due to the lack of a super-ED element and nano coatings).

80-400
http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/lens/zoom/telephotozoom/af-s_80-400mmf_45-56g_ed_vr/img/pic_003.png


200-500
http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/lens/zoom/telephotozoom/af-s_200-500mmf_56e_ed_vr/img/mtf_tele.png



Aug 05, 2015 at 07:12 AM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR


In some ways it seems like an odd lens. It's a 50% increase in weight and 2.5" longer over the 80-400G, despite losing a lot of the flexibility of the 80-400G's zoom range. It doesn't carry some of Nikon's higher-end designations like Super ED and Nano which obviously don't add weight but might otherwise designate it as a lens with the highest end optics (where weight is sometimes just the trade off for sharpness).

On the other hand, it's half the price of the 80-400G which is pretty great if its performance is good.

For me, given the lenses I already own, I think it's probably a non-starter. It's a lot bigger and heavier than the 80-400G, doesn't use the 77mm filters, and the range is pretty inflexible.

It's a pretty nice price, though. It's the first way that Nikon has offered into this focal length/aperture at any kind of reasonable cost. Hope it performs well because I know a lot of people who will want it that just couldn't swallow the price of the 80-400G.



Aug 05, 2015 at 07:16 AM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR


I'm VERY happy with my copy of the Tamron. Plays really well with my copy of D7100. Awesome AF and spot on. So well that I didn't even consider upgrading to D7200 and be a victim of sample variation. Why fix something thats not broken?

This is a very interesting lens from Nikon. I'll wait and see how it performs wide open at the long end and with a 1.4 TC. If it compares favorably to the Tamron in that regard, i'll try one for myself. Having f5.6 at 500 will be great. Exciting times for the telephoto shooters.




Aug 05, 2015 at 08:22 AM
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It sounded too good in the beginning. Now I'm thinking more about it, but in a more realistic, perhaps less enthusiastic way. I'm looking for a longer lens, but I think I'll wait and see how this plays out for a few months.


Aug 05, 2015 at 08:38 AM
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ckcarr wrote:
It sounded too good in the beginning. Now I'm thinking more about it, but in a more realistic, perhaps less enthusiastic way. I'm looking for a longer lens, but I think I'll wait and see how this plays out for a few months.


This is my thought as well. I was very excited by the introduction of this lens for serious wildlife photography, but time has caused me to take a more realistic perspective on the lens. I currently use the 200-400 f4 VR and shoot this recognizing that I am compromising image quality for flexibility. Like many who own the lens, I would love a lightweight alternative while maintaining the image quality that I can extract from my lens. After doing an extensive comparison between the 200-400 and the 80-400, I just couldn't give up the improvements I saw at 400mm or the ability to produce sharp images at f4.5.

The 200-500mm f5.6 seemed like the perfect lens for me, but at $1499, I sincerely doubt that it will touch the quality that I already have. Probably more like Nikon's best 70-300mm VR and made for wildlife enthusiasts who already own that lens and wanting more magnification, I fear that the 200-500mm f5.6 sounds great on paper, but may not be able to resolve the detail one can extract from a D810 or D7200.

Final thought... after looking closely at the lens, it does remind me of the Tamron optic in terms of build and tripod mount. The flex mount does not look sturdy and the barrel looks as if it might be a third-party partnership...

I'll reserve judgement until I see the pictures, but my enthusiasm is beginning to wane.

bruce



Aug 05, 2015 at 09:10 AM
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I will give the lens a look after seeing some "first light" shots.

For wildlife I use the new 80-400 on a D810. That combo is a very fair compromise as regards IQ versus the cost of an exotic tele.

Now, and don't laugh, if IQ is decent for a modest 13x19 print, I will test the new lens at 500mm in crop mode on top of a 1.7x TC. That will get you 1275mm - nice for static bird shots.

The 1.7 plays pretty nicely with my existing 80-400.



Aug 05, 2015 at 09:40 AM
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