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Hi all,

I know that many folks get by with a plastic bag and a rubber-band. This works (I know because I have tried it) it some conditions, but is a poor choice for a number of common uses. E.g., wildlife applications where even if your lens is protected against the elements, a shiny noisy bag flapping wildly or rustling in the wind pretty much ends your shooting day right then and there. Or maybe in really heavy rain or sea + small boat conditions.

So, I am wondering what folks use and why. While rain/element protection is paramount, there are other things that also make a difference. E.g., as noted above, noisiness of the cover (if the material rustles a lot, it is an issue). Ease of putting it on or taking it off, but perhaps just as important, how are the ergonomics compromised while it is on? Durability in the bush? Etc.



Apr 29, 2015 at 12:24 PM
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I use Think Tank (TT) Hydrophobia 70-200 and 300-600 v II raincoats, and the AquaTech (AT) SS-Zoom cover for smaller lenses, like the 24-70/2.8L. I use these when I know that I'm going to be shooting in sustained and/or heavy rain. I keep a couple of Op/Tech rainsleeves in my bags in case I get caught out. I find the ergonomics of the TT and AT raincoats are fine, as I have more-or-less normal access to the camera and lens with both right and left hands. The TT coats (at least the big one) allows you to "roll up" the raincoat and tuck it away inside the part of the coat that covers the lens hood, and so you can install the raincoat, tuck it away "up front", and then roll it out if the rain starts. Works great.

I most often use the raincoats for shooting sports and sometimes "wet scenic" photos. I haven't noticed any rustling noise from either the TT or AT materials, but I don't think I've used them in a 'noise sensitive' scenario. OTOH, slight sounds coming from a raincoat on a rainy day would not be near the top of my "why it noticed me" list.

Shooting from small boats and other conditions that you might want waterproofing is a completely different story. I used a DIY dry bag for many years and recently switched to the Outex waterproof cover system.

Here's some links to old threads that you might find useful,

Shooting from a Kayak, https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1310303/1#12511502
water protection & water proof https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1305343/0#12454063
bags & packs https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1188692/0#11335838
Camera case for small boat (waterproof) https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1195187/0#11398407
kayak camera-clamp dry bag, https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1195187/0#11585641
waterproof WP bags https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1178248/0#11232380
weather tolerance https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1188602/0&year=2013#11334857



Apr 29, 2015 at 01:05 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Rain Covers/Coats/Sleeves for Wildlife Photography


http://fotosharp.com/pro_camera_rain_covers.html



Apr 29, 2015 at 01:18 PM
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Jim,

Thanks for some fantastic info! Great stuff.

I just ordered a kayak, and would like to photograph from that, as well. Relieved to see that my selection, the Wilderness Systems Commander 120, has got some recommendations/support.



Apr 29, 2015 at 06:54 PM
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EGrav, thanks for pointing this one out. New to me. Like the sil-nylon material, for sure. It's main advantage over the TT and LensCoat seem to be bulk, by a huge margin. I wonder if all the extra material may get in the way?


Apr 29, 2015 at 06:56 PM
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Ok, just got the TT Hydrophobia and the LensCoat RainCoat (Pro) for evaulation:

TT Hydrophobia: Perhaps over-engineered. As a result, it is bulkier and clumsier, and worse, some of the engineering that adds to the bulk is not really needed by me and also non-removal. E.g., the inner strap and the hard rubber tab to which it is attached. It is pain stretching the rubber cover over the eyepiece, and I can see damaging things if I do it in a hurry (e.g., while being rained on! though, actually putting it on is much easier than taking it off). But the most damning flaw, IMHO, is the fact that even though there is a plastic backing, the rubber/neoprene around the eyepiece hole blocks half the LCD screen. What? What is the reasoning behind that? I understand the need to balance protection and access, but by simply better locating the clear part of the back or making it bigger, they could have actually tried to get a balance. Here, as far as I can tell, the only useful function of the LCD viewport is to make sure that the camera still exists. The other next most damning design flaw is that it is not easy to use a speedlight, and no way at all to use it mounted on camera. Am I missing something here? For the telephotos, I like using an extender for fill.

LensCoat RainCoat: Simpler, and perhaps this is a case of less is more. One weirdness is the waterproof material on the inside and fuzzy (presumably non-water resistant material) on the outside. Weird, but I think I actually like it. It reduces the rustling noise of the material, which is important when stalking wildlife. The open back design has its pros and cons, which are probably obvious: pros = incredibly good access, cons = less protection. But while I think the TT design kills any attempt at balance between access and protection by blocking half the LCD, the LensCoat achieves a reasonable compromise. I think a neat feature would be if the draw closure could come with a clip: the idea is you could close the back tight, roll up the excess material and clip it down, so you get temporarily get a 100% waterproof protection, with the ability to relatively quickly open things up again when you want. Useful when you are moving from place to place and can find quieter/more sheltered conditions for actual shooting (e.g. small boats in chop, where there is splash when moving). Also nice is that I can mount the speedlight (which will, of course, need its own protection in rain).

I will play around with the TT Hydrophobia, but unless I discover I am doing things wrong, it is probably going back. The LensCoat I am not so sure about either way yet.



May 01, 2015 at 03:01 PM
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I have the TT Hydrophobia and LensCoat RainCoat as well. I started with the LensCoat but fell into a great deal on a used Hydrophobia for my 300/400 2.8. Once I got the TT the LensCoat never came out of its bag - I just put the TT on my lens and its ready to deploy if/when I need it. I have used it in torrential downpours with excellent results. The open back on the LensCoat makes it easier to reach buttons and see the LCD, but I just don't like it when the rain is really pouring - even with my "weather sealed" Nikon D4.

That said, I guess it would depend on your expected conditions. Generally I keep my LensCoat in the back of the car with my rain gear just in case.



May 05, 2015 at 10:00 AM
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MichGoBlue wrote:
I have the TT Hydrophobia and LensCoat RainCoat as well. I started with the LensCoat but fell into a great deal on a used Hydrophobia for my 300/400 2.8. Once I got the TT the LensCoat never came out of its bag - I just put the TT on my lens and its ready to deploy if/when I need it. I have used it in torrential downpours with excellent results. The open back on the LensCoat makes it easier to reach buttons and see the LCD, but I just don't like it when the rain is really pouring - even
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No doubt. I completely can see the TT offering better protection. And, though it is a little bulkier and clumsier than the LensCoat, it would have probably ended being the keeper if it was not for those two serious design issues: i.e., the obstruction of the viewfinder and the lack of a capability to mount a flash. I am not sure why TT did not just make the entire or even most of back with the transparent material, with just a minimal amount around the eyepiece hole for sealing.



May 05, 2015 at 04:47 PM
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Hey Jeet. I'm not sure what you mean about "obstruction of the finder". Are you replacing the Canon "eyecup" with the dedicated TT eyecup? Also, it's super easy to take off. You just slip the eyecup off the camera while it's still attached to the raincoat, and pull the camera out.


May 05, 2015 at 05:43 PM
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I like Fotosharp's covers. Easy to use and durable.

For wildlife I use a camo cover:
http://fotosharp.com/camouflage_rain_covers.html

The "white" cover is handy if you want to use a flash: http://fotosharp.com/pro_camera_rain_covers.html



May 05, 2015 at 06:16 PM
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jcolwell wrote:
Hey Jeet. I'm not sure what you mean about "obstruction of the finder". Are you replacing the Canon "eyecup" with the dedicated TT eyecup? Also, it's super easy to take off. You just slip the eyecup off the camera while it's still attached to the raincoat, and pull the camera out.


Hi Jim,

Yes, I have the dedicated eyepiece. And I can see through that fine. But the top fifth or quarter of the LCD screen is obscured by the black material in which the eyepiece socket fits through. You can see it if you shove the material upwards, but this takes a bit of force. I wish I still had it, so I could show an image of what I mean. But maybe I set it up wrong? Or maybe my body (Canon 6D) is too small? On yours, when everything is in place, can you see the top portion of the LCD without pushing any material around (e.g., when it is just resting on a tripod)?

As far as taking off, it is easy in terms of the technicalities of the operation, but I was unhappy with the amount of force I had to exert to stretch the material around the eyepiece. Maybe the material will stretch/soften up over time to make it easier?



May 05, 2015 at 07:45 PM
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Also, I should note that I am using the 70-200 one, which does not allow for the cover to remain rolled up on the lens (100-400). And when the 100-400 II is fully zoomed, there is really not much material left over to allow fitting my wireless flash transmitter without (seemingly) stretching things too much. Am I wrong about that?



May 05, 2015 at 07:48 PM
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And, speaking of the eye-piece, while I sent back the TT hydrophobia, I ended up keeping the eyepiece.

I found it provided a nice "anchor" around which to cinch the LensCoat RainCoat really tight.

Now, I know the setup shown below provides even less access to the LCD viewfinder than the Hydrophobia and at the same time less protection! It seems the worst of both worlds. But I think this will work better for me. The key is, it allows me facultatively better access to the full LCD quickly when I went it (I can open the drawstring closure and use the combination of the sleeve opening extension itself as well as e.g., the brim of my hat to provide shelter while I temporarily inspect the LCD) and, at other times, reasonably good protection even the most torrential downpour as long as it is not raining sideways. Or if there are tens of feet of waves crashing over the boat and soaking everything in bathtubs of water. I guess under those conditions, everything gets zipped up in a watershed bag.

Here is an idea for the LensCoat people. A shower cap type cover with an opening to fit over the the TT or AquaTech eye piece forming a tight seal. That way, in moderate conditions, we can have the fully open back as currently. And in worse conditions the shower cap can go on. LensCoat makes a body back cover, but this goes on inside the sleeve, which means any water trickles in. Furthermore, it does not allow for the penetration of the eyepiece. What would be neat would be a rain cap that goes on over the outside of the rain sleeve and has a neoprene/rubber-lined opening to allow for the eyepiece to poke through.






May 05, 2015 at 08:04 PM
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I use, and love, the TT HYdrophobia for my big lenses (300/2.8, 500/f4 and 200-400 before I sold it). It works extremely well.

I use the Kata raincoat for my 24-70 and shorted focal lengths.

The only trouble with the Kata is very wide velcro band around the end of the lens. I have a hard time using the zoom and focus controls. Perhaps they have fixed this design flaw in the years since I bought mine.



May 05, 2015 at 08:27 PM
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Hi Jeet,

I use the TT raincovers with 1D-series cameras. The following image compares the locations of the rear LCD on the 1DX and 6D. The 1DX LCD is lower and to the left in comparison with the 6D, with respect to the anchor point at the finder. Maybe that explains why I don't have any of the issues that you have.



© jcolwell 2015


Left, 1DX; right, 6D (red rectangles are the same size)




May 06, 2015 at 06:38 AM
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jcolwell wrote:
Hi Jeet,

I use the TT raincovers with 1D-series cameras. The following image compares the locations of the rear LCD on the 1DX and 6D. The 1DX LCD is lower and to the left in comparison with the 6D, with respect to the anchor point at the finder. Maybe that explains why I don't have any of the issues that you have.


Hi Jim,

Thanks for posting the comparison shots.

A larger offset in the 1D-series would definitely explain the difference. I do not know if the offset is large enough to result in complete non-occlusion in the 1D-series vs. the partial in the 6D, but it is possible that there are other difference in geometry (e.g., how the material is pulled away due to prism height and location) that also contribute.

It is actually good to know that TT were not crazy or dropped the ball designing the Hydrophobia.
And that the tens of dozens of photographers who raved about or otherwise recommended the TT Hydrophobia were also not crazy for not noticing or just accepting the obscured LCD.
And that I, too, am not crazy for find the obscured LCD a problem.

All of these conflicting perspectives can be reconciled with each other once we realize that the TT Hydrophobia really works best with a 1D series body ...



May 06, 2015 at 10:44 AM
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jeetsukumaran wrote:
...And that I, too, am not crazy for find the obscured LCD a problem.


You could still be crazy...



May 06, 2015 at 02:51 PM
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jcolwell wrote:
You could still be crazy...


I know I am not crazy because the voices in my head say so!



May 06, 2015 at 10:14 PM
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shoot123 wrote:
I like Fotosharp's covers. Easy to use and durable.

For wildlife I use a camo cover:
http://fotosharp.com/camouflage_rain_covers.html

The "white" cover is handy if you want to use a flash: http://fotosharp.com/pro_camera_rain_covers.html



me too

FotoSharp rain covers is what I use. simple, not over designed like many of its competitors, light weight, compact (fit in shirt pocket) and available in multiple colors.



May 07, 2015 at 08:26 AM
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The thing about some of these expensive camera protectors is that you can't see the various controls if you want to change them on the fly. Example would be AF vs MF, zooming, etc. I just use a cheap Opteka plastic camera cover and it has lasted me several years. Of course I don't shoot in the rain or very dusty environment (e.g. on an African safari) but I am sometimes out shooting under heavy fog and even a light drizzle.


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