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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · The Diving Board - Half Dome Under The Milky Way

Based on some of the great feedback I've gotten lately from my posting here on FM, I've started processing my astro-landscape images much darker, but I don't know if I've got it right just yet. C&C welcome!

Nikon D800e, Rokinon 14mm @ f/2.8
4 frame panorama, each frame exposed for sky and earth separately
30 sec @ ISO 12800 for sky, 5 min @ ISO 3200 for earth.

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Here is another version, slightly re-edited for a darker sky.

Edited on Mar 10, 2015 at 02:48 PM · View previous versions

Mar 08, 2015 at 02:04 AM

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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · The Diving Board - Half Dome Under The Milky Way

Hey Matt,

That is super sweet! I really like the look of this. Good work.

But I don't quite get why such high ISO? Usually for skies even at f4 and 30 secs, I never have to go higher than ISO 6400. And for the ground layer, I would have gone down to ISO 400 for less noise.

Jim

Mar 08, 2015 at 02:52 AM

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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · The Diving Board - Half Dome Under The Milky Way

What a composition.

Mar 08, 2015 at 03:00 AM

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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · The Diving Board - Half Dome Under The Milky Way

That's very nice.
The comp seems kind of tight for a four frame 14mm pano.
I wonder about the sky iso too, but the end result shows a nice exposure and the noise is not bad.

David

Mar 08, 2015 at 08:36 AM

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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · The Diving Board - Half Dome Under The Milky Way

Very nice Mathew. I like it as well. Sky seems a bit light to me but that is personal preference. Is that someone camping in what looks to be a lit up tent?

Mar 08, 2015 at 08:49 AM

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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · The Diving Board - Half Dome Under The Milky Way

Hi Matt, I love the composition I have been thinking about taking similar shot myself when I ll go there for the first time this year.
As Jim mentioned not sure why you shot at such high ISO, at 12800 you will get a lot of noise. One of the option here is to take few frame at lower ISO and then stack them so you can get more detail with less noise. Hope that helps

Guillaume

Mar 08, 2015 at 08:57 AM

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Hardcore wrote:
Very nice Mathew. I like it as well. Sky seems a bit light to me but that is personal preference.

I'd consider correcting for vignetting, then the resulting (more) even sky values can be brought down without the corners looking very dark.

David

Mar 08, 2015 at 09:40 AM

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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · The Diving Board - Half Dome Under The Milky Way

I love the composition. Beautiful, a bit bright on the horizon line on the the left but it's a personal choice. Bravo!

Mar 08, 2015 at 09:59 AM

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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · The Diving Board - Half Dome Under The Milky Way

JimFox wrote:
Hey Matt,

That is super sweet! I really like the look of this. Good work.

But I don't quite get why such high ISO? Usually for skies even at f4 and 30 secs, I never have to go higher than ISO 6400. And for the ground layer, I would have gone down to ISO 400 for less noise.

Jim

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Derek Weston wrote:
What a composition.

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dgdg wrote:
That's very nice.
The comp seems kind of tight for a four frame 14mm pano.
I wonder about the sky iso too, but the end result shows a nice exposure and the noise is not bad.

David

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Hardcore wrote:
Very nice Mathew. I like it as well. Sky seems a bit light to me but that is personal preference. Is that someone camping in what looks to be a lit up tent?

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Guillaume_8667 wrote:
Hi Matt, I love the composition I have been thinking about taking similar shot myself when I ll go there for the first time this year.
As Jim mentioned not sure why you shot at such high ISO, at 12800 you will get a lot of noise. One of the option here is to take few frame at lower ISO and then stack them so you can get more detail with less noise. Hope that helps

Guillaume

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dgdg wrote:
I'd consider correcting for vignetting, then the resulting (more) even sky values can be brought down without the corners looking very dark.

David

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jeacaj wrote:
I love the composition. Beautiful, a bit bright on the horizon line on the the left but it's a personal choice. Bravo!

Thank you everyone for commenting!

Simply put, yes it was really dark; there was no moonlight whatsoever affecting the scene, and very little light pollution. (If I had been in Joshua Tree for example, with Las Vegas and Palm Springs on the horizons, I'd surely get over-exposed images!)

Plus, the Rokinon 14mm vignettes like you would not believe.

Thus, I opted to try and "properly expose" the scene with those ISOs, and darken the images in post-production. This did help noise appear surprisingly low, actually, even for 12800 on the D800e...

I'll try playing with the sky a little bit more, you're right the vignetting didn't seem very bad at first but the more I look at it the more it is a bit too black...

Mar 08, 2015 at 12:10 PM

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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · The Diving Board - Half Dome Under The Milky Way

Hardcore wrote:
Very nice Mathew. I like it as well. Sky seems a bit light to me but that is personal preference. Is that someone camping in what looks to be a lit up tent?

Acually, my climbing partner and I set up the tent and put a headlamp inside, but we were both too chicken to sleep inside the tent because it's a bit too exposed to a deadly stumble. (1K+ foot fall) We opted to sleep under the stars in the area where the photos were actually taken, which has a bit more of a "lip" on the edge.

Either way this is NOT a camping area for anyone who sleep walks!

http://photos.matthewsaville.com/photos/i-hd4smBL/0/O/i-hd4smBL.jpg

Mar 08, 2015 at 12:20 PM

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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · The Diving Board - Half Dome Under The Milky Way

Thanks for the follow up camping image. I liked the illuminated tent, with the night sky... It helped the image tell a story. Though i wouldn't want to camp that close to the edge either...

Mar 08, 2015 at 01:26 PM

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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · The Diving Board - Half Dome Under The Milky Way

Very nice, indeed. The Milky Way following the contour of Half Dome adds to the lovely comp. Like some others have said, the sky seems a little bright on my monitor.

Mar 08, 2015 at 01:42 PM

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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · The Diving Board - Half Dome Under The Milky Way

wswartzwel wrote:
Thanks for the follow up camping image. I liked the illuminated tent, with the night sky... It helped the image tell a story. Though i wouldn't want to camp that close to the edge either...

The sleeping part, once we decided where to lie, wasn't too bad. The scariest part was mainly the hours we spent at night setting up cameras, shooting different angles / starting up timelapses. Headlamps aren't exactly conducive to such exposures, even in the low-beam red mode...

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Chaz wrote:
Very nice, indeed. The Milky Way following the contour of Half Dome adds to the lovely comp. Like some others have said, the sky seems a little bright on my monitor.

Thanks for the feedback on the sky. I'm still struggling with the notion that my night images "need" to be darker; my previous set of images were all many stops brighter than this. I'll keep working it!

Mar 09, 2015 at 02:29 AM

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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · The Diving Board - Half Dome Under The Milky Way

beautiful work!

Mar 09, 2015 at 03:42 AM

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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · The Diving Board - Half Dome Under The Milky Way

Looks really cool, what a unique image. Question for you, from a real n00b at night shooting...you said each frame was exposed twice, did you do the row of images at one exposure and then come back to the set for the land?

Mar 09, 2015 at 06:32 AM

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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · The Diving Board - Half Dome Under The Milky Way

very nice shot

Mar 09, 2015 at 08:20 AM

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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · The Diving Board - Half Dome Under The Milky Way

I always look at my final result regardless of settings. Sometimes presupposed settings don't get the final result as great as yours here so I go with what I view as my best effort for the image that I like!
Yeah suggestions allow me to tweak but usually I stick with my initial result..and thank the repsponders for their comments.
Very fine image and the tent light really adds scale, depth and drama to the image.
Dan

Mar 09, 2015 at 08:43 AM

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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · The Diving Board - Half Dome Under The Milky Way

Really nice shot. Yellow tent is a nice addition. I'm also interested in Travis's question on how you shot each frame for sky and ground?

Mar 09, 2015 at 08:49 AM

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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · The Diving Board - Half Dome Under The Milky Way

I just want to know if you have to call ahead to make reservations for that camp spot and where is the bathroom and shower located.

Killer shot! You have 3 majors in this image and they all play very well together. The tent really makes this image IMHO.

Question, did you have to nudge the sky image around to get it to wrap around Half dome like that or was that natural?

Mar 09, 2015 at 01:09 PM

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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · The Diving Board - Half Dome Under The Milky Way

Travis Rhoads wrote:
Looks really cool, what a unique image. Question for you, from a real n00b at night shooting...you said each frame was exposed twice, did you do the row of images at one exposure and then come back to the set for the land?

Very good question! The best way to do panoramas like this is to blend the individual composite frames for sky and earth first, and then take each of those PSDs / TIFs into Photoshop for the Panorama. Either way it's a bit CPU-hungry, but it's not too bad on my 2011 Macbook Pro (and considering they're 36 MP images, and I've since down-graded to 24) ...so I'm sure most folks will be okay!

I'll probably try and record a video tutorial on how to do this, either for SLR Lounge or for my own personal site, http://www.astro-landscapes.com

=Matt=

Mar 09, 2015 at 01:11 PM

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