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The 58mm F/1.4G Thread

  
 
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p.72 #1 · p.72 #1 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread



Totally agree. If you're buying his lens and read all about softness and unproven sample variation that isn't fixed with fine tuning, then you're naturally going to assume not-sharp pictures are because of the lens. It's more likely to be user error with this lens

I just blame the outer auto focus points of my DF

Jason_Brook wrote:
I really don't think this lens is as copy dependent as you guys make it out to be. It's just a real finicky lens that needs to be learned. Trust me, I get plenty of hazy shots out of mine when conditions aren't perfect.




Nov 30, 2014 at 07:38 PM
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p.72 #2 · p.72 #2 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Jason_Brook wrote:
I really don't think this lens is as copy dependent as you guys make it out to be. It's just a real finicky lens that needs to be learned. Trust me, I get plenty of hazy shots out of mine when conditions aren't perfect.


I think I'm wid yah on this one. Sometimes I can get this thing to be sharp as [#%}! . Other times That stupid haze comes out often when I'm just being lazy or askingng my Df to be a D4S.



Nov 30, 2014 at 07:38 PM
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p.72 #3 · p.72 #3 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


I know next to nothing about the technical side of lenses and cameras, but that haze sure reminds me of older lenses plagued with CA when shot wide open, kinda like this lens. Imagine how bad the CA would be without nano coating. I never realized how much nano does for CA until I compared my 28/1.8 to 35/1.8


Nov 30, 2014 at 08:32 PM
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p.72 #4 · p.72 #4 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


chuhsi1 wrote:
Totally agree. If you're buying his lens and read all about softness and unproven sample variation that isn't fixed with fine tuning, then you're naturally going to assume not-sharp pictures are because of the lens. It's more likely to be user error with this lens

I just blame the outer auto focus points of my DF



I bought my 58 the week it came out. My wife and I spent weeks with that lens, just rolling our mouse around in photoshop, trying to see where the AF hit. The answer was nowhere. The shots just looked OOF most of the time. So we wouldn't open it up any more than f2. It was that bad. Nearly all the early reviews on the web inspired similar reactions. The lens seemed to be written of entirely, especially as everyone waited for the Sigma 50 Art.

That's when this thread, Flickr, and a few new blog posts came in. Suddenly I was seeing very decent shots at f1.4 all over the place.

In the mean time I sold my 58 and began an experiment with the 50 1.8G. I wanted to see if it was as capable as everyone claims. It's been a great run. I've used it since March. Personally, I still think the 50 1.4G is better, but very few people share my opinion. Both are bargains for the performance. I've enjoyed both very much. But right now I'm looking forward to achieving that unique 58 look. I especially want to play with it using the Brenizer method




Nov 30, 2014 at 08:38 PM
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p.72 #5 · p.72 #5 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


...I’ll just ignore the whining and post results :P












Nov 30, 2014 at 10:40 PM
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Dec 01, 2014 at 08:14 PM
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p.72 #7 · p.72 #7 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Still haven't had much time with this lens. Managed to get this shot though...











Dec 01, 2014 at 10:05 PM
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p.72 #8 · p.72 #8 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Jason_Brook wrote:
I really don't think this lens is as copy dependent as you guys make it out to be. It's just a real finicky lens that needs to be learned. Trust me, I get plenty of hazy shots out of mine when conditions aren't perfect.


Like Jason says!



Dec 01, 2014 at 11:22 PM
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p.72 #9 · p.72 #9 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread




From this past weekend, 58/1.4 @ 1.4, 1/6400, iso100




Dec 02, 2014 at 09:00 AM
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p.72 #10 · p.72 #10 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


I have been contemplating to buy this lens. Some of the images posted here makes my decision easier. The set by nextelbuddy and many others here are amazing. I am slowly getting the idea behind the design of the lens. Reminds of the Zeiss Sonnar 1.5 M (which front focusses quite a bit) but has a lot of character.

I am used to clinical sharpness that the Leica 50mm summicron produces on my A7r. But love the rendering of the 58. It looks like the lens is designed to be used at 1.4.



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p.72 #11 · p.72 #11 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


I got it, I got it!!







Dec 03, 2014 at 09:26 PM
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p.72 #12 · p.72 #12 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Some photos straight out of camera downloaded to the iPad with the wireless utility app.




























Dec 03, 2014 at 11:24 PM
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p.72 #13 · p.72 #13 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Does this seem soft or slightly OOF? Seems a little off to me. User error?







D810 • 58mm @ f/1.4 • ISO3200 • 1/200s

Edited on Dec 05, 2014 at 08:17 AM · View previous versions



Dec 04, 2014 at 10:02 PM
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p.72 #14 · p.72 #14 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Hard to tell at this size...


Dec 05, 2014 at 08:14 AM
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p.72 #15 · p.72 #15 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Any better? Seems a little OOF to me.


Dec 05, 2014 at 08:18 AM
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p.72 #16 · p.72 #16 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Well, left eye is sharp if it is where the point of focus was.

To be sure, find a subject that can not move to AF fine tune. Mine needed some +14 under tungsten lightning.



Dec 05, 2014 at 08:39 AM
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p.72 #17 · p.72 #17 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Anyway you can shoot in better light? Your ISO is on the up 'n up.


Dec 05, 2014 at 09:35 AM
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p.72 #18 · p.72 #18 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Yeah, the lighting wasn't the greatest and I don't have a lot of experience shooting fast moving toddlers...lol I'm going to say that this one was probably user error. Going to look into AF Tuning. Never messed with it. Googled it and found Nikon's instructions but is there a better way? Thought I might have seen a method here on FM somewhere?


Dec 05, 2014 at 09:50 AM
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p.72 #19 · p.72 #19 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


Do a search for 'Dot Tune'.....


Dec 05, 2014 at 12:11 PM
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p.72 #20 · p.72 #20 · The 58mm F/1.4G Thread


eth3rton wrote:
Yeah, the lighting wasn't the greatest and I don't have a lot of experience shooting fast moving toddlers...lol I'm going to say that this one was probably user error. Going to look into AF Tuning. Never messed with it. Googled it and found Nikon's instructions but is there a better way? Thought I might have seen a method here on FM somewhere?


Tuning the 58 is stupid easy because of all the LoCA it throws off. Shoot something high contrast (barcode, nurtrition label, etc.).

Back focusing = purple fringing
Front focusing = green fringing
On the money = no fringing



Dec 05, 2014 at 12:27 PM
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