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Garrick L
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · The Dramatic Opportunity Of B&W


There is something about monochrome images that can be quite dramatic. Here is a four image set of mine that I quite like. Would love to hear your thoughts on B&W. C&C always appreciated as well.

Cheers,
Garrick Liddell

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http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8326/8101314712_5c5728af27_z.jpg
2
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8330/8119067025_a28cc7f12a_z.jpg
3
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7125/7717123582_6af65f2a77_z.jpg
4
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7015/6670395119_9efc292605_z.jpg



Oct 27, 2013 at 09:40 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · The Dramatic Opportunity Of B&W


Garrick, you are spot on about b&w.

I tend to use it as a last effort to rescue a shot, if color doesn't work. But there are a lot of smart (successful) guys out there that don't do color.

My vote goes to your #1, but I'm a little conflicted about the birds.

Nice stuff.



Oct 27, 2013 at 10:39 AM
Garrick L
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · The Dramatic Opportunity Of B&W


Thank You Tim, I appreciate your reply. I hear you about the geese in #1, the funny thing is I didn't even realize that they were in there until I processed the image. I have this one printed 20" X 30" with four inches of double matte and a black frame and it looks stunning on the wall, geese and all

Thanks again!



Oct 27, 2013 at 10:54 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · The Dramatic Opportunity Of B&W


gr8 conversions.

i am liking the first the most, followed by the boat.
however in number 1 i feel the bottom 1/3 is wasted and would suggest a crop somewhere to re-balance the image better.

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Oct 27, 2013 at 01:04 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · The Dramatic Opportunity Of B&W


I work in both black and white and in color, and I began photography doing only black and white. So it doesn't seem to me that much of anyone questions the dramatic or expressive potential of monochrome, nor the idea that it can be the best option for many interpretations of a wide range of subjects.

Within the realm of black and white, your technical interpretations seem quite classical, and I mean that in a positive sense. For me, this works especially well in the fourth photograph in your series, where the tonal range on the boat appeals to me a lot.

Since you asked for C&C, I'll give you some personal responses to the other three, too. I like the way you have handled the foreground meadow and stream quite a bit.

#1. Again, I like your "classic" sensibility in the photograph, and it seems to hold a lot of dramatic potential. For me, the large mass of darker trees on the right overbalances the building that seems like it should be the main focus of the image. Perhaps as a result of including those trees, I also feel like there is more foreground at the bottom of the frame than I might like to see. If this were my photo I might experiment with a somewhat different crop that eliminated [more than half of the] largest of the dark trees and, as a result, eliminated some of the bottom foreground, with the result being a tighter crop emphasizing the building. I might also play around with dodging/burning analogs to see if I could get a bit more tonal differentiation between the room of the building and the mountains that are right behind it.

#2. Once again, I like the direction you go with your monochrome interpretation here. I feel like the whites of the clouds are a bit blown out, and if I were working the image I might try to get back some of the near-white tones to regain a bit of detail in the brightest part of the clouds. I also wonder if a wider aspect ratio crop could work - one that eliminated the clouds above the break in the clouds - that might take out as much as 2/3 or so of the sky. For me, a version with less sky might strengthen the sense of the road leading off into distant and expansive space. (Here I confess that I might be just going for my own way of seeing, which often tends to eliminate or minimize sky - so, yes, it is a very subjective suggestion! ;-)

#3. Again, your high contrast interpretation mostly works quite well for me. This composition is also a tricky one, especially with that large tree both taller than the building and so close to the right margin - though I'm not quite sure what to suggest other than what you did here. Eliminating the tree leaves a less interesting image, and I don't think that cropping to put it closer to the edge or cut through the tree works either - do I'm left feeling that the composition is just a bit too complex and hard to sort out with the competition between the building, the mountains, the sky, and the tree for my attention.

Overall, again, I like what you are doing a great deal and there is a lot of interesting stuff going on in these images.

Take care,

Dan

Edited on Oct 27, 2013 at 09:05 PM · View previous versions



Oct 27, 2013 at 01:14 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · The Dramatic Opportunity Of B&W


GREAT shots, love #2!!!!!! Glad you did not only post these in the B+W forum. There is very little action there and I would have missed them!


Oct 27, 2013 at 01:58 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · The Dramatic Opportunity Of B&W


Garrick

Great BW set! #2 for me as its a very dramatic shot.


Jason



Oct 27, 2013 at 02:47 PM
Garrick L
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · The Dramatic Opportunity Of B&W


Thank you parsons, gdanmitchell, Mark Metternich and roquecoolman, I really appreciate the time each of you took to reply and for the great input as well.

Cheers Guys!

-Garrick



Oct 27, 2013 at 03:06 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · The Dramatic Opportunity Of B&W


the first and last are my favorites Garrick


Oct 28, 2013 at 03:34 AM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · The Dramatic Opportunity Of B&W


I like them all alot. But the first and second are my favorites.

For No. 1 I agree with what the other gentleman said. Maybe dodge the building a little bit as well as the trees. The trees are a bit dark for me, but I don't think it needs to be cropped.

No. 2 is just perfect the way it is, nothing to change.

No. 3 maybe try playing around with dodging and burning the moutains a little. They need a little more contrast in them.

Honestly, they are all very nice.

Thanks for sharing.

Ryan



Oct 28, 2013 at 08:26 AM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · The Dramatic Opportunity Of B&W


Thank You Much Kmunroe & lostinjapan, I appreciate it


Oct 28, 2013 at 07:11 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · The Dramatic Opportunity Of B&W


I really like B&W photos. Probably come from my film days when that's all I did.

Great Work!



Dec 13, 2013 at 03:32 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · The Dramatic Opportunity Of B&W


Hey Garrick,

You did some cool work with the B&W, it definitely can add so much to a shot when done correctly. #1 and 2 are my favorites here. #4 is cool, but I think that little bit of grass and ground in the lower right distracts from the shot.

Also, these are a bit small, you can post them up to 850px on their wide sides.

Jim



Dec 13, 2013 at 05:01 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · The Dramatic Opportunity Of B&W


I feel always moody when I see B/W photos. I don't mean bad but getting more in deeper inward.
I favor the third image a lot with b beautiful clouds dancing around the mountains and the pond reflection.
My question to you Garrick is.. did you take the shots as monochromatic or you concerted to BW from color.

Thanks for sharing.

Kee



Dec 13, 2013 at 09:02 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · The Dramatic Opportunity Of B&W


Love them all


Dec 14, 2013 at 12:51 AM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · The Dramatic Opportunity Of B&W


Thank you all for the kind feedback, I appreciate it.

Thank You Jim for the heads up on size. I thought I remember reading somewhere that 600px on the long axis was the max

Kee, I converted these to monochrome.

Cheers,

-Garrick



Dec 14, 2013 at 12:36 PM





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