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Haven't seen a this topic here yet but the forest fire has been going on 15 days and not stopped yet. So far its in the outer rim area and the main valley is unaffected. I figure since many of love going there perhaps this might be news for people who aren't keeping up to date with the area and are planning a trip out there.

There are some areas being evacuated and closed off. Hetch hetchy area is closed off along with evergreen rd (evergreen lodge is closed - great lodging area ). big oak flat 120 is closed but access to tioga pass is open. All the major entrances are open but 120 is not (it's fine if you're coming from tioga pass and then down to the valley).



Let's hope the fire gets contained and doesn't affect the valley. I feel bad for the residents and hope they can return home soon.


I'll be there the 2nd week of Sept so hoping the fire situation doesn't get worse.


official update area:

http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/rimfire.htm




Aug 26, 2013 at 05:04 PM
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Yes I heard. REALLY hope it doesn't damage the park. Such a beautiful place. Quite a few places I all have to photograph too.

All the best to the locals.



Aug 26, 2013 at 07:04 PM
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http://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/3660

The fire seems to be approaching the Hetch Hetchy area. It is well to the Northwest of the icons in Yosemite and with a predominately SW wind it looks like the Yosemite Valley is safe and also the areas surrounding Toulumne Meadows and Tioga Pass and most of Highway 120.

Hope they can control it soon and prevent it from spreading further east.



Aug 26, 2013 at 08:58 PM
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I've been watching it closely as I spend a lot of time in that area, often traveling 120 into the Valley and the high country. In fact I was in Mariposa just yesterday to meet with friends, and the fire was one of the topics of the day.

Relative to the park, the fire is along the northwest edge, having started outside the park not far from Groveland, a town many who approach via 120 may know well. Groveland has been said to be at risk, along with some other nearby smaller communities, but the fire is mostly burning away toward the east and northeast from what I can gather.

At this point the only well-known areas within the park that have been burned are near Hetch Hetchy. (A place where there is a flooded Yosemite Valley that is a true abomination on the park and the National Park Service, but that's a subject for a different discussion...) A report I heard today suggested that it may be as close as one mile from San Francisco's Hetch Hetchy bathtub.

Although there are reports that fire crews have taken protective action in the Merced and Tuolumne groves of sequoias, from what I can gather it doesn't seem too likely that they will be affected - but things are definitely not close to done yet. Another report I read suggested the mild good news that the fire has started to run into some less heavily timbered areas that are more open and rocky along the southern portion of the fire. More concerning reports involve the northeastward progression of the fire - as that is the direction that the winds are tending to push it - and the possibility that it will continue to move toward highway 108 and communities there.

Reports have been that in the Valley there is little or no evidence of the fire - no closures and no smoke. Highway 120 from Groveland to Crane Flat is closed, so entrance to the park is now only via 120 from the east at Tioga Pass*, 140 from the west via Mariposa and El Portal, or 41 from the southwest. Some areas along 120 are now reportedly closed - including White Wolf and, I believe, Hodgdon Meadow. Several other campgrounds along the western portion of 120 in the park have not been closed, exactly, but are not allowing any new campers to come in.

*Anyone contemplating using the east entrance to drive through the park on 120 should check for updates.

The smoke plume and the clouds it produces were visible from all the way across the Central Valley yesterday - the effect was roughly like that of a developing thunderstorm. The air in the Valley was very clear, though there was a bit of smoky haze in Mariposa in the afternoon, though it seemed to diminish by evening. We drove up a gravel road along a high ridge in the Mariposa are before sunset and we could a bit of the extent of the fire. No photos though, since I was more interested in landscape photography than news photography. My friend Michael Frye has been photographing aspects of the fire over the past few days, and there are lots of other images available. Although I have not been to these areas, reports are that bad smoke is affecting areas to the north and east, and as far away as Lake Tahoe.

One final piece of slightly encouraging news - though this thing is clearly not under control yet - is that the containment percentage began to increase today. A few days ago we were getting news along the lines of 2% containment (which seems like an oxymoron, doesn't it?) but today I heard percentages rising to and above 15%.

Fire is a natural part of the Sierra forest environment, and the folks who manage forests started to figure this out and act on it in recent years. Fire "suppression" has been, when appropriate, combined with "fire management" to ensure that some fires are allowed to burn naturally - though managed to avoid letting them get out of control - in an attempt to reduce the extraordinary build-up of dangerous flammable material in the undergrowth. This hasn't been a perfect system - witness that awful fire that burned out of the Foresta a few years back and devastated an area that had previously been badly burned. This year California and the Sierra are in the second year of a terrible drought, and this year was drier than the last. I've been camping, backpacking, (and climbing, skiing) and photographing in the Sierra for decades, and I don't recall a season as dry and dangerous as this one. In a typical year, there will be wildfires late in the season, and wildfire smoke is an expected and normal part of the September and early October Sierra experience. But this year, the fires began earlier and (witness this one) are larger and more damaging... and the fire season has roughly another 7 weeks to go. (Though this fire is virtually certain to under control by the time of your visit - which isn't to say that there won't be others, unfortunately.)

Dan



Aug 26, 2013 at 09:19 PM
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Thanks for the more detailed update Dan!


Jason



Aug 27, 2013 at 01:05 AM
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I'm in El Portal and it is perfectly clear. Fire damages structures not forests. The Yellowstone Fires of 1988 resulted in creating more biological diversity in the long run. All I can say is we may have some amazing wildflower seasons coming up.


Aug 27, 2013 at 08:15 AM
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hsakols wrote:
I'm in El Portal and it is perfectly clear. Fire damages structures not forests. The Yellowstone Fires of 1988 resulted in creating more biological diversity in the long run. All I can say is we may have some amazing wildflower seasons coming up.


Natural fire doesn't damage forests and is part of the normal and necessary process of forest ecology. It serves to clear the buildup of brush and fallen trees and branches and generally "opens up" the forest without killing the larger, mature trees. In Yosemite you can see some beautiful examples of what that sort of fire accomplishes, even along portions of highway 120 - here the trees are healthy, the forest is more open, and light is everywhere.

The situation in many parts of the American West is not normal anymore. Because our instinct was to suppress all forest fires - remember Smokey, bless his heart? - the natural, periodic fires were decreased, and some areas have not burned in many, many decades. The result has been an unnatural accumulation of fuels on the forest floor. The problem here - and you can read about it in the context of the "Rim" fire - is that this can produce extremely hot fires and travel very fast and burn all the way into the crowns of the trees. Rather than improving the health of forests by thinning, these fires destroy vast swatches of mature trees, many of which may have been growing for up to centuries.

The result is not a healthy, open, renewing forest. It is a wasteland of dead and destroyed forest, often with no trees left, then with chaparral and underbrush crowding out the infant trees. There are also examples of this along the road into Yosemite Valley that you follow if you start out on highway 120. Heading toward the Valley, continue past the left turn toward Tuolumne Meadows and you are now on Big Oak Flat Road. As this road descends toward the village of Foresta the forest disappears and you drive through an extensive area of destruction where there used to be a healthy and thick forest. I remember, as I've been going to the park for "that long."

I'd have to look up the dates now, but the first major burn there was perhaps 20-25 years ago, at a time when fire management was not practiced. Indeed, this forest had become a fire disaster waiting to happen... and when it did happen, the mature trees were destroyed in a path that finally ended miles away up against Tioga Pass Road. (If you drive that road today, after passing some other examples of healthy managed fires, you will pass a section where there is a Valley that is still almost completely devoid of live trees - that is the end point of this fire.) Sadly, a misguided management burn in Foresta got out of control a couple decades later and reburned a similar area. Today the former forest above Foresta is a sad and destroyed place. Yes, there can be beautiful wildflowers in this landscape in the spring - I've photographed them many times - but it will be many decades before there will again be a forest like the one I remember. It won't be in my lifetime, unfortunately.

Like many of my age, I once believed that forest fires were a purely evil thing and were to be avoided at all costs. Then, over the years, I learned that it isn't that simple, and that fire is a natural and necessary thing. I came to view the fires and the burned areas in a different light, enjoying the stark beauty of their aftermath and, especially, the light-filled open forests that result from natural burns. Some years ago I even began to photograph this landscape, and I understand and support the managed burn policy.

But when I pass through these scenes of complete destruction such as those I described above and what I expect I'll see as a result of the current fire, amplified by two years of severe drought following years of no fire*, I have a hard time seeing the beauty.

Take care,

Dan

*Some portions of the current fire area have been burned in the past decades.

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Aug 27, 2013 at 10:00 AM
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A short post - for some information about closures due to the fire: http://yosemiteblog.com/2013/08/27/rim-fire-closures-in-yosemite/

Dan



Aug 27, 2013 at 10:27 AM
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gdanmitchell wrote:
At this point the only well-known areas within the park that have been burned are near Hetch Hetchy. (A place where there is a flooded Yosemite Valley that is a true abomination on the park and the National Park Service, but that's a subject for a different discussion...) A report I heard today suggested that it may be as close as one mile from San Francisco's Hetch Hetchy bathtub.

Dan


I can't agree with you more on this. When Sally Jewel left REI and went on to her new job, I had more hope that Hetch Hetchy would be removed, much in the way many of the dams in the Olympics have been moved...



Aug 27, 2013 at 11:32 AM
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hsakols wrote: "All I can say is we may have some amazing wildflower seasons coming up."

Very likely. The Telegraph Fire of 2008 in Mariposa County produced one of the most spectacular wildflower showings in memory during the Spring of 2009.

Locals and tourists alike marveled at it.



Aug 27, 2013 at 11:58 AM
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Chaz wrote:
Very likely. The Telegraph Fire of 2008 in Mariposa County produced one of the most spectacular wildflower showings in memory during the Spring of 2009.

Locals and tourists alike marveled at it.


I am guessing there are a variety of reasons for this. A lot more sunlight for the flowers, less competition for nutrients, added nutrients, etc.



Aug 27, 2013 at 03:02 PM
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A brief update. Highway 120 / Tioga Pass Road has now been partially closed. You can still access Tuolumne Meadows and other points down to perhaps Porcupine Flat or so, but you'll have to come over the pass from the east side.

Dan



Aug 27, 2013 at 09:35 PM
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UPDATE: Tioga Road Closure Wed., Aug. 28th:

"Rim Fire suppression operations will close Yosemite's Tioga Road starting at noon today. The closure will last "at least through the Labor Day weekend," the Park said."

Press releases have reported that the closure will be from Crane Flat to White Wolf - might be wider if necessary.

So, expect NO access to Yosemite Valley from points East, i.e., Lee Vining, Bishop, etc.

Don't get caught up in Tuolumne Meadow, for example, if you need to get back to the valley.



Aug 28, 2013 at 11:28 AM
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FURTHER UPDATE From "YNP - DAILY REPORT"
Wed., Aug. 28; 9:42 a.m.

Rim Fire Update, August 28
The Rim Fire continues to burn in Yosemite National Park and other perimeter areas. In the last 24 hours, the fire slowly grew from 179,481 acres to 187,466 acres overall. In the park, the fire grew from 41,620 acres yesterday to approximately 43,310 acres today, a growth of just under 2,000 acres. As of this morning, the fire is estimated to be 23% contained.


In the southern part of the fire, crews are securing the line near Pilot Ridge and near the border of Yosemite National Park. Highway 120 remains closed to all inbound and outbound Yosemite National Park traffic at Crane Flat. A portion of the Tioga Road, from Crane Flat to the Ten Lakes Trailhead will be temporarily closed to all vehicular traffic beginning today, Wednesday, August 28, at 12:00 noon. We anticipate the closure to last through Labor Day to allow fire crews to defend Tioga Road from the advancing fire.


On a positive note, fire crews are in position to defend the Hodgdon, Crane Flat, and White Wolf facilities



Aug 28, 2013 at 12:00 PM
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Time Lapse of the Fire




Aug 29, 2013 at 07:40 PM
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Pretty neat video, thanks for sharing.

Jason



Aug 29, 2013 at 08:47 PM
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I won't repeat whole news reports here, but there is some good news today. Although the fire is still big and dangerous and threatening, today they were starting to talk about seeing an end point to it.

Dan



Aug 29, 2013 at 08:47 PM
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Great to see all of the updates. I was supposed to be spending this week in the Park, staying at Yose lodge but my knee decided otherwise, so no walking up or down hill - so had to cancel. Can't really complain as I've been travelling up & down the coast from Big Sur to north of San Fran. Not hard to take. Hope they get this fire under control. I will be back to Yose next year!


Aug 29, 2013 at 11:49 PM
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I was there the last 3 days, the Valley is not affected. Never smelled smoke, saw smoke in the distance, lots of photo ops. Great photography to be had by all. Help those businesses out by going to see Natures Beauty.


Aug 30, 2013 at 12:10 AM





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