I think the perspective between the two is actually different, just as the dude above me said. From a production point of view, it makes no sense to make a mold for a plastic piece, only to end up not using it. Molds are expensive as f... to make, just saying.
It does look like that yellow'ish color of the o-rings you find in some waterproof housings, but it also looks like you can see the gold plated contacts...
My 6D got soaked storm chasing this last week, no problems to report. Body got quite wet a couple of times. Mine looks just like the above photo posted by corndog.
OT: Really enjoying shooting with it, the very quick need to adjust settings and such while in a dynamic storm chasing environment went well with the 6D, felt it did what I need it to do and it was also able to focus in very low contrast situations, grey on grey clouds and such. I did not, however, get me a great shot of the Moore tornado, that was just my bad luck picking the wrong storm to chase and then the wrong route to catch the Moore storm, but that is not the 6D's fault.
Dustin Gent wrote:
If there were problems with the construction of the body - wouldn't there be a ton of posts about the circuit board frying by now? At least I would hope so...
These things can take time, and it's still a pretty new camera.
OK, I'll take mine apart tomorrow and post pictures from the inside looking at the scroll wheel.
Before y'all gather your pitchforks and torches, though, that the scroll wheel piece is a separate assembly which basically is a wheel with an electrical contact that sits on top of a small piece of circuitry with multiple contacts in a circle like this (this isn't a Canon one, but they're all similar). Behind the circuitry is a plastic or rubber flat piece that holds everything together and is sealed to some degree.
IF you're seeing circuitry around the edge of the tilt wheel, all you're seeing is the little contact circuit for the scroll wheel. There are several metal and rubber shields underneath that, then there's a flat aluminum shield over the PCB in the camera body, then the main circuit board. I'm not saying the 6D is weather sealed, it's not, but you can't "look" at the circuitry from there - it's 3 or 4 layers away.
RCicala wrote:
IF you're seeing circuitry around the edge of the tilt wheel, all you're seeing is the little contact circuit for the scroll wheel. There are several metal and rubber shields underneath that, then there's a flat aluminum shield over the PCB in the camera body, then the main circuit board. I'm not saying the 6D is weather sealed, it's not, but you can't "look" at the circuitry from there - it's 3 or 4 layers away.
Thank you for that, RCicala. Now, if it's as you said, the question is whether or not water leaking into this area will cause any damage. But I'll certainly wait to hear back from you when you inspect the interior of this unit of your 6D.
But what does not appear to be 3-4 layers away are the traces and forks which signal feedback from the wheel. It looks like there's basically a direct path to the area shown in your image. If so, that would be no good.
corndog wrote:
But what does not appear to be 3-4 layers away are the traces and forks which signal feedback from the wheel. It looks like there's basically a direct path to the area shown in your image. If so, that would be no good.
The piece in the picture appears to have a conformal coating, if so it would have no issue with exposure to moisture.
TTMartin wrote:
The piece in the picture appears to have a conformal coating, if so it would have no issue with exposure to moisture.
Moisture is one thing. But I think the real question is, since it's not well protected, if water leaks into the area, will it cause any damage?
Say, although none of the Canon DSLRs is water-proof, I have used my cameras in light shower when many times I need to put my cameras in and out of my bag and the cameras are facing down when I'm doing that. I've never had any issue with it before. But, for this 6D, I'm not entirely confident that it'll hold up well in that situation.
I sure hope RCicala will clarify this for us soon. If it's indeed an issue, hopefully, he could get Canon's attention over this.
mine shows the yellow - who knows though it might not be electrical contacts or anything that could get bothered. I guess this is a question for Canon. I have been absolutely thrilled with my 6D - no complaints here...
TTMartin wrote:
The piece in the picture appears to have a conformal coating, if so it would have no issue with exposure to moisture.
In RCicala's photo, you can see traces for the little forks, the inner and out square U shaped traces. Those would not be conformal coated because they need to make contact with the little forks under the wheel.
corndog wrote:
But what does not appear to be 3-4 layers away are the traces and forks which signal feedback from the wheel. It looks like there's basically a direct path to the area shown in your image. If so, that would be no good.
TTMartin wrote:
The piece in the picture appears to have a conformal coating, if so it would have no issue with exposure to moisture.
Wahoowa wrote:
Moisture is one thing. But I think the real question is, since it's not well protected, if water leaks into the area, will it cause any damage?
Say, although none of the Canon DSLRs is water-proof, I have used my cameras in light shower when many times I need to put my cameras in and out of my bag and the cameras are facing down when I'm doing that. I've never had any issue with it before. But, for this 6D, I'm not entirely confident that it'll hold up well in that situation.
I sure hope RCicala will clarify this for us soon. If it's indeed an issue, hopefully, he could get Canon's attention over this....Show more →
Haven't taken mine apart yet, but I went and looked at about 30 copies that came in today or were on the shelf. On about half of them you can see the small arc around the wheel if you push down hard enough. Doesn't seem to be any serial number pattern to the ones you can or can't see the edge on.
RCicala wrote:
Haven't taken mine apart yet, but I went and looked at about 30 copies that came in today or were on the shelf. On about half of them you can see the small arc around the wheel if you push down hard enough. Doesn't seem to be any serial number pattern to the ones you can or can't see the edge on.
OK, I took mine apart. The bottom line is all is very well sealed in there and what's being seen isn't circuitry. But for those who want to see I'll add a few pictures.
Here's the back panel off showing the metal shielding over the button assembly area.
http://www.pbase.com/rcicala/image/150353830.jpg
With the metal shield removed you can see the thick rubber seals (gray)around the buttons and the back side of the wheel assembly.
http://www.pbase.com/rcicala/image/150353831.jpg
With the pressure plate removed you see the box side of the scroll wheel assembly, the spring and ball bearing that clicks it as you rotate (green line) and double rubber seals that press against the pressure plate and seal in the assembly (red lines).
