There is an ongoing discussion somewhere concerning the assembly of the control wheel of the 6D. Basically, if you push one end of the multicontroller button and use a bright light, you will see the contacts on the circuit board, very much like the contacts on the lens mount. Check out the first picture for this.
I understand that 6D is not advertised as weather-proof and such, but this appears to raise some concern whether or not the 6D can handle normal usage as water can easily get leaked inside and ruin part of the circuit board.
The picture is not my 6D, but mine also appears to be the same. Also, a number of people have reported to have a similar issue.
What's your opinion on this? Do you think it's about the same risk as using a lens that has no rubber seal on the mount (all lenses besides L with weather seal)?
Also, if you could, check your 6D, carefully use some bright light to inspect your unit and post the first 6 digit of your camera.
Thank you.
P.S. My 6D - same issue s/n 022023xxxxxx
EDITED: Just FYI, it appears that 6D with rubber seal exists as shown in the 2nd picture. (Again, it's not mine, but the owner claims it appears to be a rubber gasket inside.) The serial number is not known though.
I suspect that Canon probably say it's nothing. But then either redesign the whole part or add a rubber gasket and then announce "product advisory" if people complain enough.
Wahoowa wrote:
I suspect that Canon probably say it's nothing. But then either redesign the whole part or add a rubber gasket and then announce "product advisory" if people complain enough.
Well judging from the photo *any* water running down the back, sweat or rain or whatever has an easy path into the internals of the camera.
That really isn't good if it's supposed to be that way
dhphoto wrote:
Well judging from the photo *any* water running down the back, sweat or rain or whatever has an easy path into the internals of the camera.
That really isn't good if it's supposed to be that way
dhphoto wrote:
Well judging from the photo *any* water running down the back, sweat or rain or whatever has an easy path into the internals of the camera.
That really isn't good if it's supposed to be that way
I would be very concerned about this too if it was me.
Those two images look like totally different cameras with the same layout. The texture and the buttons and the wheel look nice on the second, but the first looks like what I'd expect if I bought a knockoff 6D.
Those two images look like totally different cameras with the same layout. The texture and the buttons and the wheel look nice on the second, but the first looks like what I'd expect if I bought a knockoff 6D.
I agree. Something's rotten in Denmark here. Could that 1st camera really be a knock-off? I have heard that there are Chinese imitations out there but I have never seen one. It would be really interesting to find one in the wild and hear how it performs.
I don't think the camera is a knock-off. I don't even know if one exists. It's just a bad lighting. Mine, which was bought in December from an authorized dealer in the US (and it does have USA warranty card), appears to be the same as the one in the first picture.
I don't think it's a knockoff either, but I wonder if there was a big shift if manufacturing. I'd be super pissed to find out there were essentially two different 6Ds and I were stuck with the suckier one.
I just checked my 60D--daddy of the 6D--with a penlight and loupe and it has a rubber casket on the QCD. Also I've shot with it in light rain many times and constantly diddled the QCD. My 60D is early production from Fall 2010. Odd that the casket would be left off of the 6D. Maybe there was a kink in the supply chain and Canon needed to get them out the door...
Gochugogi wrote:
I just checked my 60D--daddy of the 6D--with a penlight and loupe and it has a rubber casket on the QCD. Also I've shot with it in light rain many times and constantly diddled the QCD. My 60D is early production from Fall 2010. Odd that the casket would be left off of the 6D. Maybe there was a kink in the supply chain and Canon needed to get them out the door...
I think that top 6D is missing a gasket.
I've used all manner of Canons and never seen such an obvious place for water to get in. I think there must have been an error in the production
Here's what the Canon Museum has to about body construction in the "Features" section, for the 5DIII and 6D.
Canon EOS 5DIII
Phenomenal Performance in Any Condition.
Magnesium alloy body with shutter durability and dust- and weather-resistance
For professionals who demand nothing less than the best, the EOS 5D Mark III is designed to perform superbly, even in the most treacherous environments, every time. The body is constructed of rigid, high-strength magnesium alloy for rugged performance and features a new grip design for easier finger placement and reduced hand fatigue. Its newly redesigned shutter has lightweight and carbon-fiber blades, and is rated to maintain up to 6.0 fps performance without compromise, for up to 150,000 cycles. The EOS 5D Mark III and accessories like the new Wireless File Transmitter WFT-E7A and GPS Receiver GP-E2 have extensive gasketing for improved dust and water resistance, even at their connection points. ...Show more →
Canon EOS 6D
Ergonomic & Ready to Go.
Compact and lightweight body with shutter durability tested up to 100,000 cycles
For photographers on the move, there’s nothing quite like the full-frame performance available with the EOS 6D. It’s designed to be portable, light and simple to operate yet doesn’t compromise the quality one expects from EOS SLRs. With an aluminum alloy and polycarbonate chassis and a magnesium polycarbonate resin exterior, plus a shutter rated to 100,000 cycles, the EOS 6D offers the perfect combination of lightweight and durable materials for reliable operation day after day.
You don't have to read between the lines. IMO, this means that the 5DIII has weather sealing and the 6D does not.
BODY CONSTRUCTION
The EOS 6D’s body construction is a combination of durable materials – a polycarbonate base plate to which the part-magnesium alloy body shell is attached. The camera also features a robust dust-proof and drip-proof construction, where body panels interlock rather than adjoin, and all seams, buttons and dials are provided with secure rubber sealing. The protection provided by the design and sealing is equivalent to that of the EOS-1N film camera; the weather-sealing standard by which other professional cameras were judged.
Perhaps the 1st image is a body with the rubber sealing missing, the 2nd image looks black to me, not metal/brass like an electrical connector. Maybe this is a QC issue, not a design flaw.
I would guess this combo joystick/qcd is much if not the same as the one on the 60D; same design, and I've not seen any references to this possible issue on the 60D.
I'm hoping someone just didn't put a rubber seal in the assembly...
jcolwell wrote:
You don't have to read between the lines. IMO, this means that the 5DIII has weather sealing and the 6D does not.
dhphoto wrote:
I agree with you, but there is a significant difference between 'weathersealing' and leaving an obvious gap for stuff to get in easily.
Even the cheapest Canon P&S has more resistance to water, lint and dead skin that that top shot!
Agreed. OTOH, my ELPH 310 HS doesn't have any room for gaps.
P.S. I agrfee that this is shoddy construction. I've been thinking I'd get a 6D for its silent shooting, sort of a bridge camera between my 1D-series and Fujifilm X bodies. With this kind of physical construction, I'm sure a 6D wouldn't last very long in my hands.
