lucas lumiere wrote:
Is anyone here saying the 5DIII IQ is drastically improved over the MKII?
Canon 5DII = Great value. Great Image Quality. 1 "Good" Focus Point.
Canon 5DIII = More Expensive. Great Image Quality. Faster. Better Build. 2 Card Slots. Top Notch Focus System.
End of story.
Thats why I love it Its the perfect camera FOR ME. I held off going FF only because of the 5D2 AF system, not because of the IQ. I paid through the nose for my 5D3 (£3000), but I have no regrets at all.
David Baldwin wrote:
Well, I don't know if it would have been easily possible for Canon to release say a 30 mpx body, but my point really is that for some users of the 5D2 the 5D3 doesn't appear to add that much. Increased resolution would have thrown such people a bone.
Thats fair enough, but the compromise would have been 7D - ish IQ (slightly better) and I dont think the high MP crowd are willing to sacrifice that much. I think the new generation of Canon FF bodies will have Nikon/Sony rivaling sensors. I'm not buying a 1DX for this reason. I spend £3k on a 5D3 and I dont think a further £4.8k is necessary. I'll save for the new 1Series in 2-3 years time.
"I think the new generation of Canon FF bodies will have Nikon/Sony rivaling sensors."
Amen to that. Also at the back of my mind is that full frame video sensor Canon were demonstrating a few months back, it had low resolution but was incredibly sensitive, dread to think what ISO it was running at, telephone numbers! Clearly Canon R&D have advances up their sleeves, the 5D4 and 6D2 may well have stunningly good sensors. I see my 5D2 being replaced in 2016!
Not sure if anybody mention this but the AF points on the 5D3 spread out a lot further and provide much higher coverage than the 5D2, focus-recompose is a thing of the past and this beast totally transform my 85L II and 35L into precision machine, it's like having an upgrade to 85L III and 35L II, nailing focus every single time. The better spread out of AF points alone made shooting portraiture a breeze, and my keeper rate from these primes lens have been double. I dare say all outer focus points of my 5D3 trumps the center focus point of my 5D2. One does not need to exaggerate but the 5D3 AF performance completely smokes the 5D2, SMOKES it!! I wonder if the OP even own the 5D3, maybe he/she is just a Nikon rep trying to degrade the 5D3, or simply trolling around.
The 5D3 is essentially the 3D that everyone was talking about and wishing for all these years.
I just replaced my 5DII to the III, and obviously my first impressions were not that the images were any better, but the shooting experience is. Not sure if it was worth the $3900 I paid for the kit (that's all my dealer had, I would have preferred just the body only) And for sure the learning curve is a bit higher with all the AF stuff, but so far, i'm impressed
yauyi wrote:
Not sure if anybody mention this but the AF points on the 5D3 spread out a lot further and provide much higher coverage than the 5D2, focus-recompose is a thing of the past and this beast totally transform my 85L II and 35L into precision machine, it's like having an upgrade to 85L III and 35L II, nailing focus every single time. The better spread out of AF points alone made shooting portraiture a breeze, and my keeper rate from these primes lens have been double. I dare say all outer focus points of my 5D3 trumps the center focus point of my 5D2. One does not need to exaggerate but the 5D3 AF performance completely smokes the 5D2, SMOKES it!! I wonder if the OP even own the 5D3, maybe he/she is just a Nikon rep trying to degrade the 5D3, or simply trolling around.
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Spread is better, I use the cross-type points only. Focus recompose is not a thing of the past because sometimes the focus point doesn't match up with the desired subject, though this is less common than it used to be. The focus doesn't "smoke" the 5d2 in dim light at all, in one-shot OR ai servo. In fact, I have found that the 5d2 may be more accurate in one-shot with center point locking in very low light using AF assist than the 5d3 with the same AF assist and center point (or any other point).
form wrote:
Spread is better, I use the cross-type points only. Focus recompose is not a thing of the past because sometimes the focus point doesn't match up with the desired subject, though this is less common than it used to be. The focus doesn't "smoke" the 5d2 in dim light at all, in one-shot OR ai servo. In fact, I have found that the 5d2 may be more accurate in one-shot with center point locking in very low light using AF assist than the 5d3 with the same AF assist and center point (or any other
As much fault as you are finding with your 3G purchase, why on earth
Are you keeping it? For goodness sake, return it and buy something
That performs to your standards. And good luck with that.
you might consider upgrading your firmware if you haven't already. i just upgraded mine and now my 5d3 smokes my 5d2 even more than it did 2 weeks ago. one of the perks of the latest firmware is speedier AF acquisition with AF assist.
anyway, i can't believe people are complaining about the 5dIII. it is an incredible machine and very likely one of the best 10 digital cameras human beings have ever produced.
the only thing i find annoying on this camera is that if i'm on the top of the center strip of cross type AF points and i click the joystick to the right or left, i remain in the center strip. i have to move it down and then over in order to get to an outer point. but.... BFD, as they say.
form wrote:
Spread is better, I use the cross-type points only. Focus recompose is not a thing of the past because sometimes the focus point doesn't match up with the desired subject, though this is less common than it used to be. The focus doesn't "smoke" the 5d2 in dim light at all, in one-shot OR ai servo. In fact, I have found that the 5d2 may be more accurate in one-shot with center point locking in very low light using AF assist than the 5d3 with the same AF assist and center point (or any other point).
Have you uploaded the lastest firmware....autofocus is world's better with this, esp in
low light. I agree that iq between all three 5d cameras is very similar...I actually like the
iq of the orig. 5d the best among the three, but the improved lcd's and quicker operation
plus better flash control make the mark3 a must for wedding pros.
The biggest plus of the mark 3 is the focus ACCURACY. Formerly i could not get many keepers with my fast primes wide open...the mark 3 has improved this dramatically.
StillFingerz wrote:
perhaps rent a 6D and test it's center point for AF strength in near dark situations, if it works out perhaps it would be an alternative when the light, lack of light, makes the 5D2/5D3 near useless
I saw where a guy did a test and the 6D beats even the 1Dx for low-light autofocus acquisition! It wasn't even that close when the light got low.
Currently I am editing another wedding where the 5d3 AI servo didn't perform that well. Some of the photos are usable, but the focus keeper rate for dancing subjects in the dim lighting was well under 50%.
Add onto that a I did a significant share of motion blurring and ghosting from flash freezing things while the shutter speed was too slow...plus very wide apertures...bad recipe. Later on when light got worse and most of the light was flash only, ghosting wasn't an issue anymore. However, focus still was...very inaccurate for tracking.
At any rate...I still got enough that are usable and a few fairly good shots for that dance.
I don't understand why people say the 5d3 focus system is so good...the one-shot is fine, definitely slower locking in dark with speedlite AF-assist lamp than the 5d2 (despite 1.2.1 firmware update), and the tracking is fine in good light. However, the tracking in low light...not good at all. I'm talking about ISO3200, 1/120, f/1.6 light. It just doesn't lock on, center point or otherwise. It hunts and gives up. And because this was first wedding I used the servo for tracking dancing, I was unaware at least during some of the early time that it was failing to lock so often. Fortunately I switched to one-shot for certain times and those shots are generally in focus. However most - yes, MOST - of the AI servo shots are OOF.
That's not a common result. I don't even take my 5D3's out of AI Servo during weddings anymore... It's that good. What "case" setting are you using? You should probably set the tracking responsiveness as low as it gets.
Archive 2013 · 5d3...not much better than 5d2.
Its the perfect camera FOR ME. I held off going FF only because of the 5D2 AF system, not because of the IQ. I paid through the nose for my 5D3 (£3000), but I have no regrets at all.