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Hi all,

I am looking for an advice here. Recently I got an offer to shoot medical personal in full gear hospital setting. Basically, they want me to shoot about 20 outstanding employees of the hospital (10 poses each) and provide them with 10 large 24"x36" acrylic/foam core prints per person to be displayed throughout the facility. My understanding is that this is going to be an annual photo-shoot. Every year about 12 professionals will be photographed for their excellence. I was wondering if any of you who have done this type of work can help me to price this assignment. Poses will include, busyness suite look, white coat, operating room, procedure rooms & some group shots.
Thanks in advance!

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Arthur



Apr 10, 2013 at 10:21 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Please help with advice



Not sure what advice you're looking for? This sounds like a pretty standard on-location portrait shoot.



Apr 11, 2013 at 10:05 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Please help with advice


Hi Ron,

I am primarily shooting weddings and architecture, but don't know how to price on location portraiture work.



Apr 11, 2013 at 10:39 AM
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First, are you confident you can deliver the goods? Are you strong enough with lights to mix with ambient like one would normally do in these on-location shoots? Can you deliver an image that will look great blown up at 24x36 inches?

If you are confident you can do it, the next step is to figure out how much time you'll put into this gig, and what other costs will be associated. You have to place your value on this, and price accordingly. Remember, you'll likely be locked into this as an annual shoot if things go well. When it comes to pricing, everyone has to be different. There's no one set price. You're new at this, so you'll probably come in with a lower bid. I hope this helps.



Apr 11, 2013 at 10:51 AM
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Wow. This is a huge gig. You sure you're up to the challenge of delivering 200 24x36 mounted prints to hang in what's essentially a gallery setting? As I think about how I'd do this project, my eyes glaze over. My guess is that you're going to do each person in a different setting (although I suppose you could do the "business suit" look in one place with one lighting grid). Even so, each location is going to be lit according to what the scene gives you. So in my view, this is a long-term project, not just a simple one-day walk around.

So, as to price, you need to decide what your day rate is, all-in. After that, figure out how many days you'll need to get the people scheduled, do the shoots, edit them, review with the client, and then produce the final mounted prints. My most recent corporate shoot was for a total of 23 people, supposedly to be shot in one day (all were to be simple headshots done with the same lighting grid in one room). Even so, to shoot 23 people required four days due solely to their scheduling issues. That meant setting up and breaking down my lights on three of the four different days. I can only imagine how much more challenging it will be to get these doctors, nurses, etc. on a schedule. Scheduling is going to drive this project. Once that hurdle is cleared, then you need to mark up your products from the lab you use. So I think I'd price this on the basis of day rate (open-ended, because you're limited by their schedules, which will most likely have to be flexible), plus deliverables.

All in all, this should be a huge, huge payday for you if you can deliver.



Apr 11, 2013 at 11:17 AM
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Thanks all,

For me it is not a confidence issue. I certainly can deliver the goods and I have just enough gear to get it done. I am also not concerned about lab prints, I have. That part lined up, it is just a matter of agreeing on pricing due to big size and volume of acrylic prints. I am more concerned how to price the gig. I have been trough some scheduling/timing with staff and know that it will take good chunk of my time to set and break down my lights. Another thing that I would like to clarify with management how to handle copyrighting and licensing. I certainly want to have a right to use this as promotional material for myself, but in the mean time I would prefer their media director to handle model release forms for me (I just don't want to spin my wheels chasing people around) So I guess my question is: Should I give them a flat rate per person/portrait, breaking it down into photo-session and post processing, or I'll be better of giving them hourly rate and go with a flow?



Apr 11, 2013 at 12:45 PM
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I'd give them a day rate that takes into consideration the time you spend on editing at the back end. For every day you spend shooting, you'll spend an equal amount of time at the computer (or more). But I wouldn't break it down that way for them. If your time is worth $x per day, then charge them $2x per day, which incorporates the editing time. Charging them by the hour puts the stress on you to get in and get done quickly and will more likely lead to disputes as to why this is taking so long. This is especially true if you're going to charge them editing time at your computer. They'll have no way to validate what time you need or have invested in editing.


Apr 11, 2013 at 04:29 PM
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Achilles2010 wrote:
Hi all,

I am looking for an advice here. Recently I got an offer to shoot medical personal in full gear hospital setting. Basically, they want me to shoot about 20 outstanding employees of the hospital (10 poses each) and provide them with 10 large 24"x36" acrylic/foam core prints per person to be displayed throughout the facility. My understanding is that this is going to be an annual photo-shoot. Every year about 12 professionals will be photographed for their excellence. I was wondering if any of you who have done this type of work can help me to price this assignment.
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you would probably get more responses about pricing in the pro section



Apr 12, 2013 at 04:56 AM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Please help with advice


Thanks everyone


Apr 12, 2013 at 05:33 AM





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