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Dot-Tune: Autofocus Fine Tuning in under 5 minutes

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Hello, trying out the tuning method and I get two different results on my Tamron 24-70mm.

Do you suggest tuning at the widest end, or the longest zoom?

Thanks.

Aug 09, 2014 at 07:42 PM

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p.25 #2 · p.25 #2 · Dot-Tune: Autofocus Fine Tuning in under 5 minutes

coolyota wrote:
Hello, trying out the tuning method and I get two different results on my Tamron 24-70mm.

Do you suggest tuning at the widest end, or the longest zoom?

Thanks.

If you're using a newer Canon body (5DM3/6D/1DX/70D) you enter two AF tune values, one for either end of the zoom, and Canon's firmware will interpolate for focal lengths in between. Otherwise if the two tune values are close enough you might be able to make do by using the average of the two. I actually had to send my Nikon-mount 24-70mm to Tamron because the AF tune spread between 24mm and 70mm was over 10 points and Nikon bodies don't support two tune values; it came back perfect (I sent my body in as well and they tuned the lens to it).

Aug 10, 2014 at 08:41 AM

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p.25 #3 · p.25 #3 · Dot-Tune: Autofocus Fine Tuning in under 5 minutes

I really love this method.. Good stuff..

Just curious though on three things.

1. Is it normal for the range to be say +10 through -10?

2. I notice when I let go of the half shutter press that no any zoom lens I can hear the motor engage and disengage and then when I press the shutter again it will reengage again (hopefully that makes sense).
3. Are the results similar if I am shooting in dimly lit room (I.E Iso 200 2.8 1/20th?)

Thanks a ton

Ryan G

Aug 10, 2014 at 09:55 AM

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p.25 #4 · p.25 #4 · Dot-Tune: Autofocus Fine Tuning in under 5 minutes

RyanGphoto wrote:
1. Is it normal for the range to be say +10 through -10?

I currently have a total of 84 AFMA registered settings, between my four Canon DSLR and sixteen tested lenses (plus two Extenders). My outer bounds for AFMA are +10 to -6. Forty-two of the values are zero, and all but two of the remaining values are within +5/-5.

RyanGphoto wrote:
2. I notice when I let go of the half shutter press that no any zoom lens I can hear the motor engage and disengage and then when I press the shutter again it will reengage again (hopefully that makes sense)

There are at least two things that might be going on here. If you have AF controlled by the shutter button (instead of a back button), this might be activating and deactivating the AF, although it probably shouldn't make a 'new' noise if you release the shutter button when it's already in focus. Also, if it's a lens with IS, then that will turn off and on, with some time lags between pressing and releasing the shutter button.

RyanGphoto wrote:
3. Are the results similar if I am shooting in dimly lit room (I.E Iso 200 2.8 1/20th?)

The AF accuracy in low light will vary widely with the camera you're using. My 1DX and 6D are about the best you can get from Canon, and generally work pretty well, especially if you can find a convenient light/dark transition line near where you want to focus, and you're using a relatively fast lens. IOW, I don't think the AFMA values will vary in low light, rather the overall accuracy of your AF will vary, sometimes considerably depending on the camera and lens.

Aug 10, 2014 at 10:16 AM

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p.25 #5 · p.25 #5 · Dot-Tune: Autofocus Fine Tuning in under 5 minutes

I am about to try Dot-tune for the first time. I just downloaded a few different test charts as was wondering if it's best to print them or can I just have them displayed on my laptop and use it that way.

One of the lens I'll be checking is a 600 f4 IS. Any suggestions for the distance from lens to test chart for a longer telephoto?

Ted T.

Aug 11, 2014 at 01:06 PM

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p.25 #6 · p.25 #6 · Dot-Tune: Autofocus Fine Tuning in under 5 minutes

Distance suggested is 50x the lens mm. This needs to be done in bright light such as on a sunny day with no wind. The 600mm would equate to approx 98ft.

Aug 11, 2014 at 02:02 PM

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p.25 #7 · p.25 #7 · Dot-Tune: Autofocus Fine Tuning in under 5 minutes

I do all of my AFMA tests indoors, with a spot light on the target. The longest 'run' I can get is about 13m. This lets me test anything up to 200mm at the 50x distance (10m for 20mm lens). I test my longer lenses at 12m, and do a few spot checks outside at longer distances. So far, all of these spot checks at longer distances have been spot-on. The LensAlign II instructions suggest you should test at 25x focal length, which means even my 500mm lens 'fits' for indoor tests, using this criterion.

I like to use high-res targets, and so use a 600 dpi laser printer to make them, and I have a Lens Align II target, as well. It's critical to have high res targets when you're measuring lens resolution (e.g. USAF 1951 target), but it's probably not so important when you're just using the target for AF lock.

Aug 11, 2014 at 02:43 PM

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p.25 #8 · p.25 #8 · Dot-Tune: Autofocus Fine Tuning in under 5 minutes

where can I get this picture as seen in the video?
high resolution one

Aug 20, 2014 at 10:34 AM

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p.25 #9 · p.25 #9 · Dot-Tune: Autofocus Fine Tuning in under 5 minutes

Joshua J. Ahern wrote:
where can I get this picture as seen in the video?
high resolution one

http://ahernphotos.com/target.jpg

You can get that Chart here. But I'm recommending this chart instead - it produces more consistent results.

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Aug 20, 2014 at 10:37 AM

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p.25 #10 · p.25 #10 · Dot-Tune: Autofocus Fine Tuning in under 5 minutes

you mean "I'm recommending this chart instead"?

Aug 20, 2014 at 10:43 AM

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p.25 #11 · p.25 #11 · Dot-Tune: Autofocus Fine Tuning in under 5 minutes

thank you snapsy

Aug 20, 2014 at 10:45 AM

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p.25 #12 · p.25 #12 · Dot-Tune: Autofocus Fine Tuning in under 5 minutes

I used the last chart at the end. the one recommended by snappy and also updated on the youtube video. it provided good results.

Aug 20, 2014 at 10:48 AM

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p.25 #13 · p.25 #13 · Dot-Tune: Autofocus Fine Tuning in under 5 minutes

Joshua J. Ahern wrote:
you mean "I'm recommending this chart instead"?

Haha, oops. Yep.

Aug 20, 2014 at 10:56 AM

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p.25 #14 · p.25 #14 · Dot-Tune: Autofocus Fine Tuning in under 5 minutes

I made this set up

1DX + 300MM F4 + 1.4X extender version II on tripod
69 feet away from the chart
one-shot
center focus
manual focus

all the micro fine-tune adjustements I do, the green circle isn't blinking at all

any idea what I'm making wrong?

Aug 20, 2014 at 01:10 PM

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p.25 #15 · p.25 #15 · Dot-Tune: Autofocus Fine Tuning in under 5 minutes

Joshua J. Ahern wrote:
I made this set up

1DX + 300MM F4 + 1.4X extender version II on tripod
69 feet away from the chart
one-shot
center focus
manual focus

all the micro fine-tune adjustements I do, the green circle isn't blinking at all

any idea what I'm making wrong?

Do you mean you get a solid green confirmation for the full AFMA range of -20 through +20?

Aug 20, 2014 at 01:46 PM

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p.25 #16 · p.25 #16 · Dot-Tune: Autofocus Fine Tuning in under 5 minutes

on my 1DX the AFMA range is from -8 to +8
solid green confirmation

Aug 20, 2014 at 02:04 PM

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p.25 #17 · p.25 #17 · Dot-Tune: Autofocus Fine Tuning in under 5 minutes

Joshua J. Ahern wrote:
on my 1DX the AFMA range is from -8 to +8
solid green confirmation

The 1DX supports a range of -20 through +20. If you're getting a solid confirmation from -8 to +8 then your lens tunes at 0, which means it's perfect and doesn't require tuning

Aug 20, 2014 at 02:08 PM

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p.25 #18 · p.25 #18 · Dot-Tune: Autofocus Fine Tuning in under 5 minutes

well my images still look blurry and out of focus...:-(

Aug 20, 2014 at 02:20 PM

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p.25 #19 · p.25 #19 · Dot-Tune: Autofocus Fine Tuning in under 5 minutes

any idea what I'm making wrong?

You use AF, not MF, for micro-adjustments.

If you want advice, post an actual image with EXIF included.

Aug 20, 2014 at 02:28 PM

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p.25 #20 · p.25 #20 · Dot-Tune: Autofocus Fine Tuning in under 5 minutes

I've tried both AF and MF

I think I may have to send my 1DX to calibration.

I had another 1DX few months ago; and it was working very well with the 1.4 extender and 300mm

Edited on Aug 20, 2014 at 04:03 PM · View previous versions

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