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Slabshaft
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Which wide-angle lens to rent?


We are spending 5 days in Death Valley in January and I am planning to rent a wide angle lens. I have a 24mm f/2.8 AI, but I need to go much wider. Keep in mind, that I would like to rent something that I may end up buying in the not-so-distant future. So the 14-24 is out of the question only because it's too expensive.

My thoughts are coming down to the Nikon 17-35mm, 16-35mm or Tokina 16-28mm.

Also . . . flare, ghosting, contrast and distortion are going to be more important to me than pure sharpness. I've been finding that even my 24mm AI is "sharp enough" since it yields very 'sharpenable' images if used carefully. I'm pretty sure all of the above will be plenty sharp for me. I will be shooting with a D600. Any thoughts?



Dec 21, 2012 at 10:16 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Which wide-angle lens to rent?


I would get the 16-35 myself. I like the fact that it has the VR and nano coat.


Dec 21, 2012 at 11:19 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Which wide-angle lens to rent?


Why rent? The samyang 14mm is so cheap. Yeah it has distortion, but that's fixable in post for when you need straight lines.


Dec 21, 2012 at 11:21 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Which wide-angle lens to rent?


I may consider that if the Samyang is as re-sellable as the Nikons.

Having just bought the D600 and a couple of primes, I think anything else would get me killed by my wife



Dec 21, 2012 at 11:25 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Which wide-angle lens to rent?


Slabshaft wrote:
I may consider that if the Samyang is as re-sellable as the Nikons.

Having just bought the D600 and a couple of primes, I think anything else would get me killed by my wife


! Too funny, I'm in the exact same boat!



Dec 21, 2012 at 11:44 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Which wide-angle lens to rent?


The 16-35 is a better option IMO, the range will come in handy and it takes filters...


Dec 21, 2012 at 11:57 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Which wide-angle lens to rent?


Rent a Nikon 14-24 2.8, hands down Nikon's best IQ in a wide. Perfect for the many DV landscapes. You can still buy one of those other lenses later. Rent the best,, but buy what you can afford.

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Dec 21, 2012 at 11:57 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Which wide-angle lens to rent?


Slabshaft wrote:
I may consider that if the Samyang is as re-sellable as the Nikons.

Having just bought the D600 and a couple of primes, I think anything else would get me killed by my wife


I've got one I'm thinking of getting rid of becasue I just don't use it. I think I paid $400...you might find them used for just under $350.

(this is not an offer )



Dec 21, 2012 at 12:09 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Which wide-angle lens to rent?


http://lenshero.com/lenses/nikon-d600-wide-angle-lens

Lenshero is a good comprehensive list of all lenses possible for a certain situation it has off brands as well like Sigma I unfortunately don't have a FF camera but I know that lens hero is pretty good with getting a bunch of possible lenses for you



Dec 21, 2012 at 01:02 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Which wide-angle lens to rent?


I'd rent the 14-24 or 16-35 VR. the latter if you use filters.

for night skies, 24/1.4




Dec 21, 2012 at 01:22 PM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Which wide-angle lens to rent?


I would invest in a used 16-35 if you need VR
or a 17-35 if you need F/2.8
But a used 14-24 is the best investment of the three.
Mine have all gone up in value.

I am lucky that my NAS is off limits to my wife.
Problem is that my CASH has run out.



Dec 21, 2012 at 03:11 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Which wide-angle lens to rent?


I do plan to use filters in the long run, but probably not on this trip. How about the 14-24 for flare and ghosting? Like I said, I will be shooting into the sun. I've read that it can be an issue with that lens and that both the 16-35 and 17-35 have pretty good flare+ghosting control.


Dec 21, 2012 at 03:37 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Which wide-angle lens to rent?


I used the 14-24 with my D800 at Pinnacles.
There were some UPOs when shooting at the sun but only a few.
The first picture of the rocks is at ISO 6400
The other three have UFOs in the back ground and/or sky.

http://assuredphotos.com/14-24/120812r0013w.jpg

http://assuredphotos.com/14-24/120812r0060w.jpg

http://assuredphotos.com/14-24/120812r0061w.jpg

http://assuredphotos.com/14-24/120812r0065w.jpg



Dec 21, 2012 at 08:02 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Which wide-angle lens to rent?


My advice would be to steer clear of the Tokina 16-28. I bought one as I transitioned back to Nikon earlier this year and was really disappointed. It is so out of control when it comes to flare that if you have the sun anywhere in the direction of your shot you will experience the rainbow ring.

I don't like the Nikon 17-35 because of the AF motor issues.

The Tokina 17-35 has been getting good reviews and doesn't have the flare issue the 16-28 has.

The Nikon 16-35 is a great lens as is the 14-24.



Dec 21, 2012 at 09:02 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Which wide-angle lens to rent?


I shoot the D700, converted to IR.
I have shot the 14-24, 17-35, and 16-35. by far the best for my shooting (landscape and urban) has been the 16-35. sharper than 17-35 and as sharp as the 14-24. I have NO complaints about the 16-35.
have fun, tom



Dec 25, 2012 at 06:30 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Which wide-angle lens to rent?


I've been to Death Valley a few times. It's both very dry and dusty. That giant front element on the 14-24 is going to be a pain to keep clean. I have one and I just end up worrying about it all the time. I am constantly cleaning it when I'm using it.


Dec 25, 2012 at 06:54 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Which wide-angle lens to rent?


Thanks for all the input everyone! I think I'm going to go with the 16-35.


Dec 25, 2012 at 07:09 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Which wide-angle lens to rent?


fishfilm wrote:
I've been to Death Valley a few times. It's both very dry and dusty. That giant front element on the 14-24 is going to be a pain to keep clean. I have one and I just end up worrying about it all the time. I am constantly cleaning it when I'm using it quote<<<

Mine picks up dirt like a magnet too
I am going to start cleaning it with a special cloth
and breathing on it first is supposed to be a no no
Gotta protect that nana coat.
The glass is plenty thick and strong.

But the images are well worth the effort and
...Show more



Dec 26, 2012 at 02:01 AM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Which wide-angle lens to rent?


Ready for an hour read? . . . .

This is kind of old, but still relevant. My feelings about the 16-35 were mixed after shooting Death Valley. I came away with some good shots, but a few things bugged me constantly about that lens. Results were fairly sharp, but the corners while in the 16-20mm range constantly had this stretched "motion blur" look to them which is hard to correct. The length and weight and finish of the lens also contributed to awkward tripod balancing acts and extremely hazardous lens changes (afraid of dropping it over a cliff or into the water with cold hands).

Fast forward to a month ago. I rented the Tokina 16-28mm f/2.8 for a 2-week road trip up the west coast. I was super impressed by the contrast, sharpness and distortion of that lens. Instantly, it was just FUN to use. I produced some fantastically sharp/contrasty files. Very very happy with that lens I would easily go for that over the 16-35. However, the weight and size was worse than the 16-35 and made for two scary tripod crashes and unbalanced backpack. Forget about hanging it by the neck. The flare is also obnoxious. I have fool proof workarounds for that, but it's annoying to always be blending images in post processing due to flare. As posted previously, it is very prone to unexpected flares, not cool to discover later on. I also hate worrying about the front element while maneuvering through bushes and whatnot and I hate the filter solutions. All in all, it was like owning some kind of finicky race car Awesome performance and fun for sure, but just too difficult to and hazardous to live with.

Flash forward to yesterday. I got the new 18-35mm G lens in (rented). First impression is that the contrast and sharpness are a VERY small step down from the Tokina and a step up from the 16-25. Flare resistance is same as the 16-35. Weight is 1/3 of the Tokina. In-camera on-screen impressions weren't super exciting on the sharpness and contrast immediately. However, the files are very 'clean'. Then I discovered in PS, the files made by this lens are very easily sharpened while maintaining a pleasant, naturally sharp/contrasty look. Purists hate that idea, but I'm an engineer, not a purist. The sharpness and clarity I can get in post processing from this lens is easily on par with the Tokina. That's comparing two processed images. If I sharpen the Tokina images, they don't tend to look much nicer than native output. Sharp, yes. Nice, no. They push into the oversharpened/harsh range pretty quick.

- I haven't mentioned the distortion since it's just low enough to not bother me.
- Flare control isn't the Voigtlander 20mm, but it's good enough to not be annoying once you put the hood on.
- Contrast and sharpness isn't Zeiss level, but it's pretty damn good for a lens of this size and price. I already know this will produce sharp 16x24 prints.
- Very light weight for backpacking or hanging around the neck and the size is just right. Makes for very safe lens changes.
- CA control is great. I think that's contributing to the clean files.
- Corners aren't perfect, but they are much better than the 16-35. A step down from the Tokina. They are certainly good enough for me, and I'm pretty picky.
- Max aperture . . . I only shoot f/8 and up anyway.
- Doesn't vignette badly with filters in place.

Anyway, just some info hopefully people find helpful.

Right now, I have a feeling I will be buying this lens. For super wide, I will supplement it with the 14mm Samyang. That combo will still weigh less than the Tokina alone I have it for another week, so we'll see how it goes.



Aug 08, 2013 at 12:58 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Which wide-angle lens to rent?


Side note:

After shooting Canon for so long and dealing with such a medoicre wide angle lens selection, it's so refreshing to have such a quality selection of wide angles to choose from.



Aug 08, 2013 at 01:25 PM
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