p.1 #1 · First test with studio strobes for on-location work
I am preparing for a full scale on-location portrait shoot with my 15 year old daughter in the coming weeks. It will be somewhat typical -- pretty girl, elegant dress, beautiful jewelry (thanks to a friend who manages an upscale jewelry store), and a nice location, etc...
The first step in this process since this will be my first go around of this sort, is some practice runs with the lighting. We had our first practice session this weekend in a drab office location but the idea was to worry about lighting the subject and not the location so much...
We ended up having some equipment limitations as one of our photographers didn't show up with his gear. We ended being forced to use two lights. For this shot, it was only an Einstein for a main fired through a 47" octa and reflector only for fill. The background was not interesting so we killed the ambient...
If we had another light, we would have gridded it and put it up and behind her for a hair light...
Here is one of the shots...feedback and suggestions requested...Again, I am just looking for lighting suggestions as these were test shots.
p.1 #2 · First test with studio strobes for on-location work
I think you did a nice job here. Instead of putting her hair down on the camera right side, I would have put it down on the opposite side so the main light could have lit it nicely.
Looking at the catchlights in the model's left eye, did you have the SB-900 shooting from the ground, or a low position? Curious about your decision on that.
p.1 #3 · First test with studio strobes for on-location work
Thanks Ron.
I believe I was mistaken in my description of how the shot was taken. We did use the SB-900 as a fill on some of the shots...this one was a circular reflector placed a little low and camera right...(I corrected my comment above)
As far as lighting the side with her hair down, wouldn't you get shadows on her face from he hair being in front of the main?
p.1 #4 · First test with studio strobes for on-location work
Not a bad first attempt. Exposure looks good. A couple things I might of done differently. First I would of used the reflector with out the sb-900 for fill set the reflector up close and let your main light reflect off the reflector back into her face. Second I would of used the SB 900 for a background light to help created separation from the back ground. As far a lighting one side or the other this comes down to preference and the shape of the face short for defining a more rounded face and broad for narrow. Here is a quick unedited example example main on left reflector on right with a background light. Both the main and reflector were in tight.
p.1 #7 · First test with studio strobes for on-location work
russdenney01 wrote:
Thanks Ron.
I believe I was mistaken in my description of how the shot was taken. We did use the SB-900 as a fill on some of the shots...this one was a circular reflector placed a little low and camera right...
As far as lighting the side with her hair down, wouldn't you get shadows on her face from he hair being in front of the main?
Nope. Bruce's example is perfect for this question. You can see the main light on the same side as the hair being down (our left, model's right), but there is only one small shadow down on the chest. Of course, if you changed the pose, then shadows can come into play. But you can see how that main light really does a nice job of highlighting the model's hair.
You're pretty much there, just a couple tweaks. Can't wait to see the results from your shoot.
p.1 #8 · First test with studio strobes for on-location work
Thanks. We're looking forward to the shoot...I just hope I don't mess up the opportunity.
This is something I have wanted to do for a while...now I've finally got a location pinned down and a nice opportunity to get the daughter some jewelry that we wouldn't ordinarily have access to (even if it is loaner merchandise)...
p.1 #9 · First test with studio strobes for on-location work
russdenney01 wrote:
I am preparing for a full scale on-location portrait shoot with my 15 year old daughter in the coming weeks. It will be somewhat typical -- pretty girl, elegant dress, beautiful jewelry (thanks to a friend who manages an upscale jewelry store), and a nice location, etc...
The first step in this process since this will be my first go around of this sort, is some practice runs with the lighting. We had our first practice session this weekend in a drab office location but the idea was to worry about lighting the subject and not the location so much...
We ended up having some equipment limitations as one of our photographers didn't show up with his gear. We ended being force to use two lights - an Einstein for a main fired through a 47" octa and an SB-900 fired through a 40" shoot through umbrella. The background was not interesting so we killed the ambient...
If we had another light, we would have gridded it and put it up and behind her for a hair light...
Here is one of the shots...feedback and suggestions requested...Again, I am just looking for lighting suggestions as these were test shots.
1. If you want to kill the background completely, you'll also have move further away to avoid the light spilling onto the background. It depends on which light modifier you use (the more directional the light modifier, the more you can control the spill).
2. This is just a matter of personal opinion, but I'm a fan of having light and shadows to help define shape.
Since this was your first studio shot, you did pretty well.
p.1 #11 · First test with studio strobes for on-location work
Nice work, Russ! I always love to see the amount of detail a little oblique lighting brings out! I think there might even be a stray hair stuck to the front of her top? The low/right fill works for me - softened shadows and defined edges very nicely... I think a gridded light high/right behind her, to catch that shoulder outline and lighten the hair in that little triangle of darkness, would have been just about perfect... And like you said, you were only working with two lights... Since jewelry is a key point here - looking at the neckline and earlobe(s) - I think you have your lighting angles just about perfect...
p.1 #13 · First test with studio strobes for on-location work
Sorry! Long-time wedding shooter - I have tuned my senses to detect every loose thread, uneven pendant, crooked tie, and rotated engagement ring... You are welcome! I hope you plan on posting some of the finished product!
p.1 #14 · First test with studio strobes for on-location work
I do have another question for you all...
When we did this shot, we experimented with using both a umbrella speed light and just a reflector for fill. The shot you see was with the reflector.
It seems like the lighting using flash for main and for fill was more flat even though the fill was a couple of stops darker. Do you find you get more pleasing face shape/shadows using a reflector for fill than a flash?
p.1 #15 · First test with studio strobes for on-location work
Everyone does things differently. One person does a great job using a reflector for fill, another does a great job using another light for fill. You simply have to find what works best for you. One of the reasons your shot here looks a bit flat is because it's such a 2D shot in terms of the lack of a background. There's just black there, so no real depth. I'm not saying a black background does not work, surely it does. But I think you'll find that this shot will be much more effective with the ambient light in the background as you're planning.
If I have one suggestion for you, it's not to over-plan for this thing. Go there, feel it out, experiment and when you think you've got it right, try something completely different. And most importantly, have fun.
