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p.4 #1 · Kaylee - Gorgeous Senior Rep + My 1st Attempt at OCF


honorerdieu wrote:
Yeah well, I suppose one can put a sock over the 22" Beauty Dish like the one you provided a link to, it becomes a small softbox.

But compare that to the Westcott Apollo 28", or the Westcott Apollo Orb 43", or even the Westcott Apollo 50" softbox, that 22" Beauty Dish with the diffuser sock over it still won't produce softer lighting than the softboxes I recommended.





Light is still different from the BD w/ the diffuser



Aug 07, 2012 at 08:42 AM
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p.4 #2 · Kaylee - Gorgeous Senior Rep + My 1st Attempt at OCF


Michaelparris wrote:
They are only used by some of the top pro's in the country.......


What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? I never once said anything about it not being used by Pros. I said it does not match her work and I stand by what I said. Sock or not, it will not match the softness Lisa tends to produce.

And just so we are clear, I have a 22" BD with sock.




Aug 07, 2012 at 08:55 AM
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p.4 #3 · Kaylee - Gorgeous Senior Rep + My 1st Attempt at OCF


Michaelparris wrote:
Light is still different from the BD w/ the diffuser


How are they different? What are the light characteristics from using a beauty dish vs. using one with a diffuser?



Aug 07, 2012 at 09:34 AM
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p.4 #4 · Kaylee - Gorgeous Senior Rep + My 1st Attempt at OCF


Loved all of them, especially 15


Aug 07, 2012 at 09:38 AM
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p.4 #5 · Kaylee - Gorgeous Senior Rep + My 1st Attempt at OCF


Thanks everyone! The discussion about OCF gear is interesting...lots to think about. I think I'm going to pick up a softbox and experiment with that first.

Is this the one you were recommending? Don't want to buy the wrong thing...

http://www.amazon.com/Westcott-Recessed-Front-Apollo-2348/dp/B0000B3OUR/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1344352263&sr=8-1&keywords=westcott+apollo+50



Aug 07, 2012 at 10:12 AM
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p.4 #6 · Kaylee - Gorgeous Senior Rep + My 1st Attempt at OCF


Lisa, the 50" while it will produce wonderful light is a big light source. I would certainly pick that up for studio type work or family, however not for most of the location work you do. That will certainly act as a sail again which was one of you concerns.

This is the unit I use. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/759870-REG/Lastolite_LL_LS2462JM_Joe_McNally_Ezybox_Hotshoe.html There is also a non Joe McNally version. It has a silver interior if you want a little more punch to the light. It folds flat, it adds a nice bit of light to the subject in a nice controlled manor and is great for mixing with ambient. It sets up in about a minute and is double diffused. It comes configured with a hot shoe setup and you can get speed rings extra. So I use this with my alien bees and speed lights.




Aug 07, 2012 at 10:24 AM
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p.4 #7 · Kaylee - Gorgeous Senior Rep + My 1st Attempt at OCF


I'm glad I asked...yes, we definitely deal with a lot of wind here on a pretty regular basis. This will work with the 580EX II? That's the only flash I have at the moment...


Aug 07, 2012 at 10:26 AM
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p.4 #8 · Kaylee - Gorgeous Senior Rep + My 1st Attempt at OCF


Sure will. That is included.


Aug 07, 2012 at 10:28 AM
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p.4 #9 · Kaylee - Gorgeous Senior Rep + My 1st Attempt at OCF


Awesome, thank you so much for your help!


Aug 07, 2012 at 10:29 AM
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p.4 #10 · Kaylee - Gorgeous Senior Rep + My 1st Attempt at OCF


Lisa_Holloway wrote:
Thanks everyone! The discussion about OCF gear is interesting...lots to think about. I think I'm going to pick up a softbox and experiment with that first.

Is this the one you were recommending? Don't want to buy the wrong thing...

http://www.amazon.com/Westcott-Recessed-Front-Apollo-2348/dp/B0000B3OUR/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1344352263&sr=8-1&keywords=westcott+apollo+50



That is the one I have. It is large, but light enough to carry it to locations. Just bring a sandbag for windy days.

Edit to add: For most on location shoots, I use my 60 inch convertible umbrella because it's quick and easy. When I really need the 50" softbox, it is easy to carry to locations but a takes a bit more work to set it up. But the results are totally worth it.

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Aug 07, 2012 at 10:30 AM
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p.4 #11 · Kaylee - Gorgeous Senior Rep + My 1st Attempt at OCF


Lisa_Holloway wrote:
Awesome, thank you so much for your help!


My pleasure, good luck with whatever modifier you choose to go with. And looking forward to seeing your work with it!



Aug 07, 2012 at 10:31 AM
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p.4 #12 · Kaylee - Gorgeous Senior Rep + My 1st Attempt at OCF


I'm going to run out of kid-free space to store all of this stuff. lol Any recommendations on taller (and sturdier) light stands?


Aug 07, 2012 at 10:34 AM
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p.4 #13 · Kaylee - Gorgeous Senior Rep + My 1st Attempt at OCF


Lisa_Holloway wrote:
I'm glad I asked...yes, we definitely deal with a lot of wind here on a pretty regular basis. This will work with the 580EX II? That's the only flash I have at the moment...

If you're talking about the Lastolite Softbox, you're good to go. The first reviewer mentioned he's using it with 580 EX II.



Aug 07, 2012 at 10:36 AM
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p.4 #14 · Kaylee - Gorgeous Senior Rep + My 1st Attempt at OCF


Lisa_Holloway wrote:
I'm going to run out of kid-free space to store all of this stuff. lol Any recommendations on taller (and sturdier) light stands?


If you want to pay once for durability.... Avenger 630B. It's somewhat light and made of metal, including the knobs.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/113317-REG/Avenger_A630B_A630B_Black_Light_Stand.html



Aug 07, 2012 at 10:37 AM
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p.4 #15 · Kaylee - Gorgeous Senior Rep + My 1st Attempt at OCF


http://www.paulcbuff.com/

Affordable gear, quality built. And they stand behind it.

I want to say I have the 13" heavy duties. I got the casters for it so once the light is setup I can just roll it around.

http://www.paulcbuff.com/lightstands.php



Aug 07, 2012 at 10:37 AM
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p.4 #16 · Kaylee - Gorgeous Senior Rep + My 1st Attempt at OCF


You guys are awesome - thank you for your help with this!


Aug 07, 2012 at 10:51 AM
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p.4 #17 · Kaylee - Gorgeous Senior Rep + My 1st Attempt at OCF


SGallant wrote:
http://www.paulcbuff.com/

Affordable gear, quality built. And they stand behind it.


I have the Paul Buff 13' heavy duty non-air cushioned stand. Model LS3900. I agree that it is very sturdy and has a nice wide footprint. If you don't have an assistant to help carry, it might be a bit large depending on how much gear you have and how far you have to walk to your shooting locations. Mine are not far walks so it's not a big deal for me. The footprint is large enough that I don't usually have to weigh it down unless there is a fair wind. Light and slightly breezy is no problem.

I will say though, that I wish that I would have gotten the air-cushioned one for $30 more instead. The air-cushioned ones prevent the each section of the main shaft from slamming down when you loosen the tightening screw and let go of it. I know mine is not cushioned so I never have a problem with it, but my wife seems to forget every time and depending on what I have mounted on it, it can come down fairly hard.



Aug 07, 2012 at 12:44 PM
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p.4 #18 · Kaylee - Gorgeous Senior Rep + My 1st Attempt at OCF


buckeyeguy1 wrote:
I have the Paul Buff 13' heavy duty non-air cushioned stand. Model LS3900. I agree that it is very sturdy and has a nice wide footprint. If you don't have an assistant to help carry, it might be a bit large depending on how much gear you have and how far you have to walk to your shooting locations. Mine are not far walks so it's not a big deal for me. The footprint is large enough that I don't usually have to weigh it down unless there is a fair wind. Light and slightly breezy is no problem.

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Excellent point on size and weight, if the 550 is really all you are going to use you could easily go for a light duty. I have a bag that I drop the light(s), stand(s), portable power and any modifiers I want to bring with me and just throw it over my shoulder so I don't sweat it much.



Aug 07, 2012 at 12:51 PM
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p.4 #19 · Kaylee - Gorgeous Senior Rep + My 1st Attempt at OCF


This is awesome and cheap! I swear!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001AMOTAY/



Aug 07, 2012 at 12:56 PM
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p.4 #20 · Kaylee - Gorgeous Senior Rep + My 1st Attempt at OCF


Is it lame that I'm bookmarking my own thread so I can refer back to this great advice on lighting equipment? Thank you all so much for the help and recommendations...I'm a total newbie with this stuff so it is much appreciated!


Aug 07, 2012 at 01:14 PM
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