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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · upgrading from D3. D3s or D4?


both of my D3 bodies are getting up there with clicks and starting to look pretty beat up after 4-5 years of service.. thinking to replace at least one of them with D3s or D4..
Question for those of you who upgraded to D4 from D3s: Is it worth the extra $2,000 ? Or should I get D3s?



Jun 04, 2012 at 10:36 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · upgrading from D3. D3s or D4?


Maybe, I did. Look at the features then rent one to be sure.


Jun 04, 2012 at 10:57 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · upgrading from D3. D3s or D4?


Depends. Do you need/want the extra 4MP because you often find yourself a little short of pixels when printing large? Would roughly 1 stop better noise performance at UHI (Ultra High ISO) be enough, or would you like as much as you can possibly get? Do you want your base ISO at 100, or 200, or do you not care?

$2000 is a lot of money. I'm sure the D4 is fantastic and worth every penny. But it'll cost roughly the same to upgrade one of your cameras to a D4, or to upgrade both cameras to D3s bodies. So there's arguments on both sides, and unfortunately none of us knows your preferences, your needs, and your typical shooting enough to really help you with such a personal choice.

I would personally get the D4. I've always invested in the best gear I can get, and I believe the gear has paid me back handsomely. But I'm probably in the minority, not least because I've been blessed with a higher-than-average degree of success so it's easy for me to say that my strategy has worked. I have no way of knowing whether that strategy would help you.

However, I see that you've had your D3 bodies essentially since they were released. So think about it this way: if you're happy now that you made the investment then, it's probably a good idea for you to rinse and repeat. You can get a D4 now, and use it for another 4-5 years. For that, it's probably a good deal.



Jun 04, 2012 at 11:00 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · upgrading from D3. D3s or D4?


New D3s is priced at $6300 on Amazon, and D4 $5999. Your call!


Jun 04, 2012 at 11:01 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · upgrading from D3. D3s or D4?


From his mention of "the extra $2000" I think he's comparing a new D4 to a used D3s.


Jun 04, 2012 at 11:04 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · upgrading from D3. D3s or D4?


mshi wrote:
New D3s is priced at $6300 on Amazon, and D4 $5999. Your call!

D3s @ $6300? must be D4s?



Jun 04, 2012 at 11:05 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · upgrading from D3. D3s or D4?


Zerga wrote:
D3s @ $6300? must be D4s?


"1 new from $6,300.00
4 used from $4,330.00
1 refurbished from $5,999.00"

http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-Digital-Camera-3-0-Inch-Capability/dp/B002SQKVD0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1338872805&sr=8-1



Jun 04, 2012 at 11:07 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · upgrading from D3. D3s or D4?


mshi wrote:
"1 new from $6,300.00
4 used from $4,330.00
1 refurbished from $5,999.00"

http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-Digital-Camera-3-0-Inch-Capability/dp/B002SQKVD0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1338872805&sr=8-1


must be hell of a camera!



Jun 04, 2012 at 11:15 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · upgrading from D3. D3s or D4?


It's really subjective. It also depends on your needs. You can get the same iso quality from the D3s as the D4. Also it's more than $2000 difference when you consider XQD cards and batteries.

ISO - Pretty much the same. Colors and DR are much better at hi-iso vs the D3S.

AF Speed - Much improved. It locks on anything! Even with the slowest focusing lenses.

DR - Much improved.

Ergonomics - Much Better

Things I noticed:

1. Feels a lot more comfortable than the D3S.
2. The sound of the shutter is awesome (not sure how to explain this)
3. Live View is smoother and looks much better than the D3S
4. AF acquisition is faster than the D3S (have not shot anything moving fast so I can not comment of accuracy)
5. Video @ 1080p looks AMAZING!
6. At first I was not a big fan of the XQD card, but seeing as they included one and a reader I invested in a couple more (two 32gb cards).
7. The rubber joysticks for horizontal and vertical shooting are a godsend (I think Canon has these).
8. I love that it has the ability to display grid lines like my old D700. The D3S required a separate focusing screen for this.
9. The lens mount has a very secure fit. Tighter than the D3S and D700.
10. The new screen is super sharp and much easier to see outdoors.
11. I like that they now have the AF-On buttons the same distance for horizontal and vertical shooting.
12. VR can be activated via the AF-On buttons!!!! So awesome!
13. Metering has greatly improved.
14. I don't like that the option to delete all images shows up when I press the trash can to delete a single image. I can see someone messing up and deleting everything. THAT WOULD SUCK!



Jun 04, 2012 at 11:20 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · upgrading from D3. D3s or D4?


Zerga wrote:
must be hell of a camera!


It can compose for you!



Jun 04, 2012 at 11:20 PM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · upgrading from D3. D3s or D4?


if you are in business and you depreciated your bodies per schedule they are pretty much bought paid for. they asset out low now.

i had little interest in the D3s and i muddled through till the D4 arrived. and yes that 1 new price of $6300 is just plain stupid for stupid people to lunge at due to FUD. again the D3s used prices are what they will be, driven by the marketplace and some FUD. i am thoroughly enjoying my D4.
afraid of XQD? i'm not. i like it. it works. and in the CF market place it is "fairly" priced. in fact it was low until the Lexar 1000x CF backed off and that was faster then expected. i actually wished it had 2.

it has turned out to be a bit more then the touted incremental step forward then many (and i did use the D3s enough) claimed it was. it just takes a little time with it to realize its potential. you need to catch up from your own inertia to realize it.







Jun 05, 2012 at 05:04 AM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · upgrading from D3. D3s or D4?


I have a D700 and a D3s. I am so impressed with the D800/E images that I would get a couple of D800/E's and new shutters for your D3's.


Jun 05, 2012 at 09:20 AM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · upgrading from D3. D3s or D4?


It really comes down to what you shoot and want from your bodies. If video is not so important and you really need clean 8000-10000 ISO the D3s used is a great buy. I just order the D800 and am on the fense right now with selling my mint D3s. For business and another 5 years of pounding the D3s is the way to go (lots of bang for your buck). The D4 is nice and has some nice upgrades but yah gotta shell out way more cash. Good luck


Jun 05, 2012 at 03:40 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · upgrading from D3. D3s or D4?


Zerga wrote:
both of my D3 bodies are getting up there with clicks and starting to look pretty beat up after 4-5 years of service.. thinking to replace at least one of them with D3s or D4..
Question for those of you who upgraded to D4 from D3s: Is it worth the extra $2,000 ? Or should I get D3s?


I would upgrade to the D4 since it seems to be the "improved" version of the D3s. On the other hand, I would not upgrade from a D3s to a D4 at this point. I have a D3s and I just got a new D800 today that I have not even tested yet.

FP



Jun 05, 2012 at 07:35 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · upgrading from D3. D3s or D4?


i just picked up a D3s and must say I am very impressed. My thinking would be if I didn't need the extra mp I would invest in more glass.


Jun 07, 2012 at 05:35 AM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · upgrading from D3. D3s or D4?


I have and have had them all. The difference is not 4 mp that's a bonus. The improvement is in the D4's controls and overall shooting speed (AF/fps/control utility). It's just more sophisticated and the longer you use it the more you appreciate it. So far I don't see an hi ISO/DR advantage for the D3s and my standard ISO is 6400. That's why I recommend rental.


Jun 07, 2012 at 09:28 AM





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