Every image on this page is unbelievable! You people are top notch photographers!
If I missed commenting on your photograph, I'm sorry. I tried to comment on all of them...
Okay, I started at the end and worked my way backward to page 10. Full disclosure: I shoot Canon for now, but longingly considered switching to Nikon for this camera, because I sell very large prints of my work, and the resolution would help. Decided not to make the switch; maybe this thread shows why. Or maybe not. It's not as if nobody is getting it right with the D800.
My first thought is that most contributors to this thread ought to get in touch with Thang, and figure out what he/she is doing about post-processing. Thang is getting color and contrast right, as are a few others. They prove you can make sensational images with this camera. Also, the avocet dipping its beak is a masterpiece, and wonderfully presented. So kudos to KirkB. When I saw his work on page 37, I thought, "This is going to be good!" But it hasn't been good, mostly.
There are a lot of images here that would be terrific, but they just die for want of the right color and contrast. Seems like an inherent feature of D800 output. Or maybe everybody is flattening contrast by lifting shadows, just because they can.
But that wouldn't entirely explain why the people in so many images look like cancer patients—even the kids. Nor would it explain the subdued colors in landscapes, or even in inherent color festivals like a balloon launch.
This camera may be a great tool, but right now if I were shopping for a wedding photographer I would put it in the contract: no D800s allowed. Because not enough people seem to have mastered what to do with the raw images, and I wouldn't want to take the chance. I suspect that some of this might be learning how to use the camera's strengths judiciously, instead of willy-nilly. Or maybe it's something I don't understand.
But who knows? Talk to Thang and KirkB. Or stop getting all ga-ga about resolution and dynamic range, and start looking at your pictures with an eye to judging whether color and contrast also need some attention.
Ah, a sophisticated Canon troll.
(I say this tongue in cheek.)
You very clearly point to user error as the possible source of the lack of color and contrast that bothers you. You even name names of those who got it right. Yet, you end by "bashing" the camera.
If you shop for wedding (or any) photographer based on the camera they use, you would be disappointed. I've seen doctors (sorry!) with multi-thousands worth of Hessy gear that shoots crap.
splathrop wrote:
Okay, I started at the end and worked my way backward to page 10. Full disclosure: I shoot Canon for now, but longingly considered switching to Nikon for this camera, because I sell very large prints of my work, and the resolution would help. Decided not to make the switch; maybe this thread shows why. Or maybe not. It's not as if nobody is getting it right with the D800.
My first thought is that most contributors to this thread ought to get in touch with Thang, and figure out what he/she is doing about post-processing. Thang is getting color and contrast right, as are a few others. They prove you can make sensational images with this camera. Also, the avocet dipping its beak is a masterpiece, and wonderfully presented. So kudos to KirkB. When I saw his work on page 37, I thought, "This is going to be good!" But it hasn't been good, mostly.
There are a lot of images here that would be terrific, but they just die for want of the right color and contrast. Seems like an inherent feature of D800 output. Or maybe everybody is flattening contrast by lifting shadows, just because they can.
But that wouldn't entirely explain why the people in so many images look like cancer patients—even the kids. Nor would it explain the subdued colors in landscapes, or even in inherent color festivals like a balloon launch.
This camera may be a great tool, but right now if I were shopping for a wedding photographer I would put it in the contract: no D800s allowed. Because not enough people seem to have mastered what to do with the raw images, and I wouldn't want to take the chance. I suspect that some of this might be learning how to use the camera's strengths judiciously, instead of willy-nilly. Or maybe it's something I don't understand.
But who knows? Talk to Thang and KirkB. Or stop getting all ga-ga about resolution and dynamic range, and start looking at your pictures with an eye to judging whether color and contrast also need some attention. ...Show more →
Well I checked my calendar and it's NOT April 1st. Hmm....perhaps you need to calibrate YOUR monitor.
You very clearly point to user error as the possible source of the lack of color and contrast that bothers you. You even name names of those who got it right. Yet, you end by "bashing" the camera.
You have a bit of a point. On the other hand, I was suggesting that the camera is indeed challenging users in ways they don't seem to have figured out how to cope with. I don't know enough about the camera to say why, but the general uniformity of the (unfortunate) results suggests the camera as a unifying factor, just as the existence of excellent results suggests the problem can be overcome.
The remark about wedding photography was indeed intended rhetorically. The portfolio ought to tell the tale, not the camera.
A little late to the game but, I thought I share two pics from last October, whale watching off the coast of Province town. It was our first time and what and experience it was. I hope you enjoy looking. Thank you.
splathrop wrote:
Okay, I started at the end and worked my way backward to page 10. Full disclosure: I shoot Canon for now, but longingly considered switching to Nikon for this camera, because I sell very large prints of my work, and the resolution would help. Decided not to make the switch; maybe this thread shows why. Or maybe not. It's not as if nobody is getting it right with the D800.
My first thought is that most contributors to this thread ought to get in touch with Thang, and figure out what he/she is doing about post-processing. Thang is getting color and contrast right, as are a few others. They prove you can make sensational images with this camera. Also, the avocet dipping its beak is a masterpiece, and wonderfully presented. So kudos to KirkB. When I saw his work on page 37, I thought, "This is going to be good!" But it hasn't been good, mostly.
There are a lot of images here that would be terrific, but they just die for want of the right color and contrast. Seems like an inherent feature of D800 output. Or maybe everybody is flattening contrast by lifting shadows, just because they can.
But that wouldn't entirely explain why the people in so many images look like cancer patients—even the kids. Nor would it explain the subdued colors in landscapes, or even in inherent color festivals like a balloon launch.
This camera may be a great tool, but right now if I were shopping for a wedding photographer I would put it in the contract: no D800s allowed. Because not enough people seem to have mastered what to do with the raw images, and I wouldn't want to take the chance. I suspect that some of this might be learning how to use the camera's strengths judiciously, instead of willy-nilly. Or maybe it's something I don't understand.
But who knows? Talk to Thang and KirkB. Or stop getting all ga-ga about resolution and dynamic range, and start looking at your pictures with an eye to judging whether color and contrast also need some attention. ...Show more →
I find this funny.. I bet if I took 10 images off of flickr and wiped all details you wouldn't be able to choose which were the 5 Canon and which were the 5 Nikon images. Similarly i bet 99.9% of people couldn't.
I dont know why theres such a childish mentality between camera users..is it because alot are men..being a man i know that there's always a pissing contest to be had..but come on grow up.
if you don't want to switch why do you feel the need to belittle others and there images.. I see by your post that you seem to be one of the kit orientated users,every post in the past year has been related to canon or nikon equipment,you seem to post in both just as much.
Why don't you post some of your grand images for us to see..seeing you seem to think yourself better than everyone else.
