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Archive 2012 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files

  
 
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p.7 #1 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files


Lenscap Test at ISO100:

Lenscap_iso100.jpg
Lenscap_iso100.cr2

Full disclosure: I see I still have it at EC -1/3 ... is that a problem? Do you need it at zero?



Mar 19, 2012 at 11:10 PM
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p.7 #2 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files


stargazer78 wrote:
True. But the original request specifically asked for an ISO 100 black frame, so when I downloaded the CR2 file I assumed that it was ISO 100.

When I opened up the shadows in RAW, and saw no banding... I was ecstatic. I concluded that the samples we had seen from pre-production cameras 2 weeks ago were not representative of production model cameras.

After 30 seconds of ecstasy, the cynic in me prevailed and I peeked at the EXIF. All hope came crashing down. But at least for 30 seconds, I knew what it felt like to be a Nikon
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+1, i thought we have escaped the daymare here ya go - RAW iso 100 black frame - let see how many DR stops can 5d3 handle before we see these in realife.

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6105/6998975861_f252a7b366_b.jpg

Thanks to Don again. -1/3 ec is alright for black frame.

Edited on Mar 19, 2012 at 11:40 PM · View previous versions



Mar 19, 2012 at 11:29 PM
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p.7 #3 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files


Happy to help ... sorry for the 3200 problem. One question since I don't do lenscap tests -- I see that the values you have in ACR aren't the same for both tests. Does that make a difference or is it just tweaking for visual effect?

Also, for some of us ... what do the results mean?



Mar 19, 2012 at 11:36 PM
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p.7 #4 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files


It means Canon keeps the banding tradition alive....that's the secret sauce for Canon beautiful colors .

Don Ellis wrote:
Happy to help ... sorry for the 3200 problem. One question since I don't do lenscap tests -- I see that the values you have in ACR aren't the same for both tests. Does that make a difference or is it just tweaking for visual effect?

Also, for some of us ... what do the results mean?




Mar 19, 2012 at 11:38 PM
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p.7 #5 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files


mttran wrote:
+1, i thought we have escaped the daymare here ya go - RAW iso 100 black frame - let see how many DR stops can 5d3 handle before we see these in realife.

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6105/6998975861_f252a7b366_b.jpg

Thanks to Don again. -1/3 ec is alright for black frame.



HELLO BANDING!!!



Mar 19, 2012 at 11:44 PM
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p.7 #6 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files


Don Ellis wrote:
Happy to help ... sorry for the 3200 problem. One question since I don't do lenscap tests -- I see that the values you have in ACR aren't the same for both tests. Does that make a difference or is it just tweaking for visual effect?

Also, for some of us ... what do the results mean?


It means that the 5D3 still has some banding issues at low ISOs when lifting deep shadows. A lot of folks were hoping Canon might finally have solved this.

Don't worry too much about it, though. For most folks it rarely becomes an issue in their real-world shooting.



Mar 19, 2012 at 11:46 PM
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p.7 #7 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files


kewlcanon wrote:
It means Canon keeps the banding tradition alive....that's the secret sauce for Canon beautiful colors .


But the camera will still take pictures, right ... I don't have to sell it to pay for classes in illustration?


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Mar 19, 2012 at 11:47 PM
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p.7 #8 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files


bhollis wrote:
It means that the 5D3 still has some banding issues at low ISOs when lifting deep shadows. A lot of folks were hoping Canon might finally have solved this.

Don't worry too much about it, though. For most folks it rarely becomes an issue in their real-world shooting.


Thanks ... I was hoping to avoid researching the banding issue and I think this will do it for me.



Mar 19, 2012 at 11:48 PM
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p.7 #9 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files


Don Ellis wrote:
Also, for some of us ... what do the results mean?




All it means is that there are banding noises hidden very deep in the shadows of ISO 100 exposures. It is not visible under most circumstances. However, if you have severely underexposed a shot and are forced to brighten the image 3-4 stops in photoshop, you may see faint signs of bandings in the darkest areas.

Deep shadow banding is completely irrelevant to most photographers. In fact, almost all digital cameras pre-2009 has that same characteristic. Hardly anybody ever notices it. The only reason some people are complaining now is because Sony's latest sensors have addressed the issue, while other camera makers like Canon, Panasonic, and Fuji haven't (yet).

If you've never experienced banding in your 5D, then you will never experience it with the 5D3 either. Don't worry about it.



Mar 19, 2012 at 11:52 PM
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p.7 #10 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files


So if you shoot everything at 3200ISO you will never see any banding? Cool.


Mar 19, 2012 at 11:59 PM
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p.7 #11 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files


stargazer78 wrote:
All it means is that there are banding noises hidden very deep in the shadows of ISO 100 exposures. It is not visible under most circumstances. However, if you have severely underexposed a shot and are forced to brighten the image 3-4 stops in photoshop, you may see faint signs of bandings in the darkest areas.

Deep shadow banding is completely irrelevant to most photographers. In fact, almost all digital cameras pre-2009 has that same characteristic. Hardly anybody ever notices it. The only reason some people are complaining now is because Sony's latest sensors have addressed the issue, while other camera
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once again it HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH UNDEXPOSING or using the wrong exposure

how many times does that have to be trotted out when it's 100% false?

believe it not those who as for more DR are not so dumb as to routine undexpose everything 3 stops and then complain about it




Mar 20, 2012 at 12:05 AM
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p.7 #12 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files


skibum5 wrote:
once again it HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH UNDEXPOSING or using the wrong exposure

how many times does that have to be trotted out when it's 100% false?

believe it not those who as for more DR are not so dumb as to routine undexpose everything 3 stops and then complain about it



But, but, but... they keep on saying it. I'm starting to believe it! Just expose "correctly" and everything will be alright... right?



Mar 20, 2012 at 01:39 AM
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p.7 #13 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files


If you are pushing the shadows 3-4 stops regularly, you need to look at your technique. At 1-2 stops it's a non issue.


Mar 20, 2012 at 05:35 AM
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p.7 #14 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files


skibum5 wrote:
believe it not those who as for more DR are not so dumb as to routine undexpose everything 3 stops and then complain about it



Perhaps, but the evidence suggests otherwise.

Most of the whining and crying seems to be coming from those who prefer to shoot with their lens caps on.



Mar 20, 2012 at 09:18 AM
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p.7 #15 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files


SeverianTL wrote:
Perhaps, but the evidence suggests otherwise.

Most of the whining and crying seems to be coming from those who prefer to shoot with their lens caps on.


you don't need condom if you know your mate well (no need to dim the light if better DR)



Mar 20, 2012 at 09:26 AM
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p.7 #16 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files


Don... thanks for posting... I can't wait to get my 5DmkIII's.


Mar 20, 2012 at 09:40 AM
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p.7 #17 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files


RichardLavigne wrote:
Don... thanks for posting... I can't wait to get my 5DmkIII's.


You're welcome. Hope it's soon for you and that you love it as much as I do mine. Here's a photo taken at lunch today – not to prove anything beyond the fact that I'm enjoying shooting more than eating ... even snapshots. 135/2 at f/2.0 ...

http://www.kleptography.com/dl/5diii/flowerman.jpg

Cheers,
Don

EDIT: Adding RAW and full-size, high-quality JPG files below:
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RAW

Edited on Mar 20, 2012 at 06:00 PM · View previous versions



Mar 20, 2012 at 09:55 AM
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p.7 #18 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files


Hey Don,

What do you think of the detail at 100% with your shots you have taken? That shot above looks excellent and extremely sharp.

Can't wait to use my 135L with the 5D3... Or any of my other lenses!



Mar 20, 2012 at 09:57 AM
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p.7 #19 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files


Love the colors, Don


Mar 20, 2012 at 10:04 AM
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p.7 #20 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files


You know that's because of the banding effect right ? .

mttran wrote:
Love the colors, Don




Mar 20, 2012 at 10:07 AM
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