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p.5 #1 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files


Don Ellis wrote:
Didn't mean to sound like I was challenging you ... I wasn't. Just wondered if that was in writing somewhere you'd seen. Sometimes on my travels it's difficult to charge batteries as often as I'd like and I like the peace of mind that having several spares offers. If I'm buying five extras, I don't mind saving a little money.


My understanding is that using any 3rd-party product or accessory doesn't void the warranty in the U.S. unless it can be shown that the product or accessory caused the problem that gives rise to a warranty claim. Whether that's true in other countries I don't know and I'm not 100% certain I'm right about the U.S. but I think I am.



Mar 19, 2012 at 12:14 PM
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p.5 #2 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files


khng30 wrote:
How can they sell a $3500 camera and not include software for raw images?? Lightroom 4 is not able to process yet either right? Wow!


It will always take some time before a new camera is included in Adobe ACR.



Mar 19, 2012 at 12:52 PM
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p.5 #3 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files


Daan B wrote:
It will always take some time before a new camera is included in Adobe ACR.


Indeed, Adobe is a third party vendor. From what I have seen they are pretty fast in updating the most recent version of ACR or LR. I hope in a few weeks or so.

I am sure that there is a reason for Canon to release the camera on the 22nd in the US; they are still doing the final touches on the latest DPP that will be included with the camera in the US.



Mar 19, 2012 at 12:57 PM
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p.5 #4 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files


Daan B wrote:
It will always take some time before a new camera is included in Adobe ACR.


How are people processing raw? Or do they shoot both and reprocessing later??



Mar 19, 2012 at 12:57 PM
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p.5 #5 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files


Daan B wrote:
It will always take some time before a new camera is included in Adobe ACR.


ACR has supported it, in beta at least, for over a week

i think i read that raw therapee does too




Mar 19, 2012 at 12:57 PM
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p.5 #6 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files


There is a new version of DPP on the disk that came with with my Mark III. The version of DPP that came with my Canon G1X, purchased about a month ago, doesn't work for the Mark III, so this is a very new version of the software.


Mar 19, 2012 at 01:14 PM
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p.5 #7 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files


khng30 wrote:
How can they sell a $3500 camera and not include software for raw images?? Lightroom 4 is not able to process yet either right? Wow!


Don Ellis wrote:
There is a new version of DPP on the disk that came with with my Mark III. The version of DPP that came with my Canon G1X, purchased about a month ago, doesn't work for the Mark III, so this is a very new version of the software.



There you go then. While a third party support is great, since I like LR for my workflow, too, but as long as Canon supplies the most recent DPP version that can be used to work on the RAW of the Mark III then that's the limit of their obligation, I would say.



Mar 19, 2012 at 01:27 PM
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p.5 #8 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files


Don Ellis wrote:
There is a new version of DPP on the disk that came with with my Mark III. The version of DPP that came with my Canon G1X, purchased about a month ago, doesn't work for the Mark III, so this is a very new version of the software.


Have you had a chance to open any 5D3 raw images with the new DPP? I'd be very interested to see how the DPP conversons compare to the ACR beta versions.



Mar 19, 2012 at 03:11 PM
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p.5 #9 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files


It seems shadow banding is gone. At least... opening up the shadows in the red window RAW file didn't show any of it. Did Canon succeed?

BTW You can open up the RAW files in LR after converting them to DNG with the DNG converter 6.7.



Mar 19, 2012 at 04:39 PM
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p.5 #10 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files


Daan B wrote:
It seems shadow banding is gone. At least... opening up the shadows in the red window RAW file didn't show any of it. Did Canon succeed?

BTW You can open up the RAW files in LR after converting them to DNG with the DNG converter 6.7.


So far so good but still be unsure until we hit the wild DR...which is how the 5d2 reacts currently ~ after 9 stops...



Mar 19, 2012 at 05:10 PM
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Apparently at low ISO D800 has 2 stops more DR than 5D III and at high ISO, when image size is equalised, D800 is at least as good as 5D III. You can your cake and eat it too.


Mar 19, 2012 at 05:32 PM
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p.5 #12 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files


Don, how does the new viewfinder compare to your 5D? Is it any brighter, or superior in anyway?. Thanks for all of your comments.


Gene



Mar 19, 2012 at 06:00 PM
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Pixel Perfect wrote:
Apparently at low ISO D800 has 2 stops more DR than 5D III and at high ISO, when image size is equalised, D800 is at least as good as 5D III. You can your cake and eat it too.



Which is great if you're doing landscapes, for the rest of us, the 5DIII is ideal at higher ISOs. From looking at the processed RAW samples at high ISO, it seems the 5DIII is 2 stops better than the 5DII. I'm happy and glad I pre-ordered from Amazon; now just waiting for it to show up.



Mar 19, 2012 at 06:02 PM
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p.5 #14 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files


Your still buying that in camera processed jpg = 2 stops improvement crap?


Mar 19, 2012 at 06:10 PM
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p.5 #15 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files


Sorry to those that don't like dissenting opinions

I don't know what the aperture was and I realize there's no pp environment for it yet (we'll have to wait), but those images look soft to me too...



Mar 19, 2012 at 06:16 PM
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p.5 #16 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files


rsg_1 wrote:
Which is great if you're doing landscapes, for the rest of us, the 5DIII is ideal at higher ISOs. From looking at the processed RAW samples at high ISO, it seems the 5DIII is 2 stops better than the 5DII. I'm happy and glad I pre-ordered from Amazon; now just waiting for it to show up.


Sorry there is no 2 stop improvement in RAW whatsoever. That is the jpg engine.

The 5D III is no better at high ISO than D800, so how is it idela for high ISO.

BTW I'm buying a 5D III.



Mar 19, 2012 at 06:48 PM
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p.5 #17 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files


jamesf99 wrote:
Sorry to those that don't like dissenting opinions

I don't know what the aperture was and I realize there's no pp environment for it yet (we'll have to wait), but those images look soft to me too...


not at the plane of focus. Seriously.



Mar 19, 2012 at 07:01 PM
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p.5 #18 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files


jamesf99 wrote:
Sorry to those that don't like dissenting opinions

I don't know what the aperture was and I realize there's no pp environment for it yet (we'll have to wait), but those images look soft to me too...


a number of raw programs open 5D3 already



Mar 19, 2012 at 07:22 PM
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p.5 #19 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files


BTW dpp 3.11.4 updater is available from the Canon Australia website

http://support-au.canon.com.au/contents/AU/EN/0200191201.html



Mar 19, 2012 at 07:24 PM
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p.5 #20 · 5D Mark III -- First Impressions, plus JPG and RAW files


Pixel Perfect wrote:
BTW dpp 3.11.4 updater is available from the Canon Australia website

http://support-au.canon.com.au/contents/AU/EN/0200191201.html


I don't think DPP 3.11.4 will open 5D3 files.



Mar 19, 2012 at 07:28 PM
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