p.2 #2 · Samyang 24mm tilt-shift lens - now announced
I agree the Lensbaby can be gimicky ( I like it ) but with an optic that is sharp to the corners you have great cheap tilt and shift. I like it for portraits where I bending the T/S lens up to force the out of focus areas anyway...
p.2 #3 · Samyang 24mm tilt-shift lens - now announced
Fly -- I disagree. For me, the 14/2.8 performs brilliantly and major vignetting is gone at 5.6-8.0. Super sharp and nice contrast. I find the 85/1.4 to be very marginal at its wide apertures, but decent starting around 2.8. The 85's big problem is the lack of close focusing, and close-up rings are a hassle.
p.2 #5 · Samyang 24mm tilt-shift lens - now announced
obik wrote:
Huh? Not a problem with the current Canon and Nikon TSEs, and not a potential problem for any camera with a DOF preview button.
I don't like focusing while pressing the DOF preview button. Then waiting for the camera to open and close the aperture again before engaging the shutter.
p.2 #8 · Samyang 24mm tilt-shift lens - now announced
Another question is just how much shift and tilt range they will provide. The TS-E mkII offers more of both over the mkI. At minimum they'd have to match the mkI range, and performance, but even there, the mkI will vignette severely with full shift, IIRC, hence the red markings for the last few mm of shift... But it could also mean a quite high performance 24mm from them if you don't need to shift.
p.2 #9 · Samyang 24mm tilt-shift lens - now announced
Just cancelled my pre-order of the 24/1.4.
If its 24/2.8, that would be good start to cleaner optics.
I suspect the price will be $900-1100 based on the 24 $ range.
Dan
Looks like a photoshop to me (Nikon mount electronic contacts + manual aperture ring + huge bulging front element), but if it's a real leak then the lens is unfilterable and flare will be much worse than the Canikon 24 TS lenses.
p.2 #11 · Samyang 24mm tilt-shift lens - now announced
mirkoc wrote:
I don't like focusing while pressing the DOF preview button. Then waiting for the camera to open and close the aperture again before engaging the shutter.
I agree. There is a reason every camera vendor went away from stop down focusing in the 1970's. I'd gladly pay more for a Samyang with auto aperture.
p.2 #12 · Samyang 24mm tilt-shift lens - now announced
The 14mm f2.8 is NOT a gigantic lens by any measure. I'm hoping the price on the tilt shift will be resonable also, but with the pricing of the 24mm, I'm not real hopeful.
p.2 #13 · Samyang 24mm tilt-shift lens - now announced
I wonder wheter Samyang could build mechanics that allow to work with the lens untilted with exact parallel lens and film plane. Tilting should be no problem for Samyang ;-)
From my own experience with the Samyang 14/2,8 and what I read about 35/1.4 and 84/1.4 I have some doubts.
p.2 #14 · Samyang 24mm tilt-shift lens - now announced
Gunzorro wrote:
Fly -- I disagree. For me, the 14/2.8 performs brilliantly and major vignetting is gone at 5.6-8.0. Super sharp and nice contrast. I find the 85/1.4 to be very marginal at its wide apertures, but decent starting around 2.8. The 85's big problem is the lack of close focusing, and close-up rings are a hassle.
strange, maybe they do have high variability? my 85/1.4 performs better than most f/1.4 lenses i've used until f/2.8 after which it fall behind a bit while still being a solid performer. all of the tests of the lens i've seen show something similar though – matching or beating first party lenses from f/1.4 to f/2.8 but never reaching the same level of peak sharpness. i got the lens for it's class leading bokeh and solid sharpness at f/1.4 and f/2 and have not been disappointed. my only complaint about the lens is a fairly large amount of loCA (and mfd of course). if i want to shoot stopped down further i use a nikkor 105/2.5 instead – much better at f/5.6 (not nearly as good at f/1.4 though )
Looks like a photoshop to me (Nikon mount electronic contacts + manual aperture ring + huge bulging front element), but if it's a real leak then the lens is unfilterable and flare will be much worse than the Canikon 24 TS lenses.
That's an edited mashup of the Nikon PC-E 24mm and the Samyang 14mm. Nothing to see here.
p.2 #16 · Samyang 24mm tilt-shift lens - now announced
sebboh wrote:
strange, maybe they do have high variability? my 85/1.4 performs better than most f/1.4 lenses i've used until f/2.8 after which it fall behind a bit while still being a solid performer. all of the tests of the lens i've seen show something similar though – matching or beating first party lenses from f/1.4 to f/2.8 but never reaching the same level of peak sharpness. i got the lens for it's class leading bokeh and solid sharpness at f/1.4 and f/2 and have not been disappointed. my only complaint about the lens is a fairly large amount of loCA (and mfd of course). if i want to shoot stopped down further i use a nikkor 105/2.5 instead – much better at f/5.6 (not nearly as good at f/1.4 though )...Show more →
+1
Their 85/1.4 is excellent wide open and till 2.8.
p.2 #18 · Samyang 24mm tilt-shift lens - now announced
sebboh & Wayne -- Sounds like my 85 isn't as strong as your samples. I have reduced sharpness, edge softness, lower contrast, some vignetting and what I consider excessive CA until f/2.8. The CA is the worst and most noticable, but mostly correctable with LR. The other "faults" are about what I expect, and I think I am sounding harsher than I really feel -- I didn't really like the Canon 85/1.2L II wide open to f/2.0 either. I don't have any other fast telephoto lens experience.
Surely your samples don't focus closer than mine, do they? I always seem to want nearly a foot closer focusing.
I find the Samyang 35/1.4 to be quite superior in these characteristics, but that may just be limitations on the telephoto design?
I may be being overly picky. I should break the 85 out again and run it around a bit.
p.2 #20 · Samyang 24mm tilt-shift lens - now announced
FlyPenFly wrote:
Maybe because I was directly comparing it to my Zeiss ZA 85/1.4 but I didn't find it that great.
from all the samples and tests i've seen, the biggest advantage the ZA has over the samyang is contrast. sharpness seems to be a wash (one is sharper in the center the other at the edge). ZA might have even worse loCA but slightly better laCA. the samyang wins the smooth bokeh challenge, whether you like that is another story. not sure about vignetting as that's not something i ever have any desire to get rid of. considering the ZA cost 4x as much, i'd say it's a good value.
gpop wrote:
>> I always seem to want nearly a foot closer focusing.
I feel the same way. it's more bothersome than the pos hood they supply.
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