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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · 5DIII Images on BETA Camera

Hi,

I was at the focus show today, I was allowed to put in a CF card and take RAW and Jpeg images, please note this was a BETA camera. I can't find a program to open the RAW format at this time, but will upload the images as soon as I can, the images will only be available for a short time due to bandwidth allowed. I'll post my opinion on the camera, overall I'm more impressed than I was last week. It's solid, silent shooting is impressive although the FPS decreases with that option on. Acquiring focus is excellent although it was static subjects and didn't search at all. Please note NR is a factor in JPEGs however I'll upload the RAW files to a upload site very soon and even then slight NR is applied which can be switched off. I didn't go through the menu's to find it due to time allowed.

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Mar 04, 2012 at 03:32 PM

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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · 5DIII Images on BETA Camera

Wow, thanks for the effort in putting these up in such a timely manner.

Mar 04, 2012 at 03:50 PM

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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · 5DIII Images on BETA Camera

I am seeing usable ISO 6400, not more. But RAW should improve on this.

Mar 04, 2012 at 03:52 PM

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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · 5DIII Images on BETA Camera

Seems like Canon took the high iso crown from Nikon. Good to see that.

Mar 04, 2012 at 03:52 PM

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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · 5DIII Images on BETA Camera

So you are saying you can switch off the RAW NR? Are you 100% sure about this?

Mar 04, 2012 at 03:57 PM

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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · 5DIII Images on BETA Camera

Thanks!

Mar 04, 2012 at 06:54 PM

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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · 5DIII Images on BETA Camera

arbitrage wrote:
So you are saying you can switch off the RAW NR? Are you 100% sure about this?

It can be done on every other Canon DLSR. What leads you to believe the 5DM3 is different in this respect?

Mar 04, 2012 at 07:19 PM

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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · 5DIII Images on BETA Camera

Thanks for these. Hard to compare until we have some RAWs that we can process through our fave packages, but it's looking interesting so far

Mar 04, 2012 at 07:31 PM

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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · 5DIII Images on BETA Camera

Very interesting and nice! Thanks

Mar 04, 2012 at 07:43 PM

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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · 5DIII Images on BETA Camera

For JPGs, these look atrocious! There's pronounced shadow noise at ISO 100 and 400. This doesn't ultimately do anything for me since I shoot RAW but I'm anxiously awaiting RAW file performance.

Mar 04, 2012 at 08:53 PM

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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · 5DIII Images on BETA Camera

snapsy wrote:
It can be done on every other Canon DLSR. What leads you to believe the 5DM3 is different in this respect?

There is no option to switch off RAW NR on any Canon DSLR. Unless you are talking about long exposure NR setting. Where the camera takes a second dark frame to eliminate noise. If that is what the OP was mentioning then whatever. But it didn't sound like this to me.

Mar 04, 2012 at 09:00 PM

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arbitrage wrote:
There is no option to switch off RAW NR on any Canon DSLR. Unless you are talking about long exposure NR setting. Where the camera takes a second dark frame to eliminate noise. If that is what the OP was mentioning then whatever. But it didn't sound like this to me.

What leads you to believe there is raw NR on Canon DSLRs?

Mar 04, 2012 at 09:20 PM

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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · 5DIII Images on BETA Camera

^ Even if you set NR = disabled, it puts in NR when opened in DPP.

You have to manually slide to zero in DPP (or set by default 0,0)

Mar 04, 2012 at 09:39 PM

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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · 5DIII Images on BETA Camera

More 5D3 details: http://cpn.canon-europe.com/content/education/technical/inside_canon_eos_5d_mark_iii.do

Mar 04, 2012 at 09:46 PM

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snapsy wrote:
What leads you to believe there is raw NR on Canon DSLRs?

It has been proven that there is (I will try to google and find where I read this, it was a while ago). Nikon has a lot more NR on RAW files. Canon's press release for the 5D MkIII states that they have applied NR before it hits the Digic 5+ so I assume this would be in the RAW file before the Digic 5+ converts to jpeg and does all the other jpeg crap including more NR and picture styles and whatever.

Mar 04, 2012 at 09:48 PM

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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · 5DIII Images on BETA Camera

Wow. Image 2J8A8254.JPG look great @ ISO 12800

Mar 04, 2012 at 10:01 PM

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arbitrage wrote:
It has been proven that there is (I will try to google and find where I read this, it was a while ago). Nikon has a lot more NR on RAW files. Canon's press release for the 5D MkIII states that they have applied NR before it hits the Digic 5+ so I assume this would be in the RAW file before the Digic 5+ converts to jpeg and does all the other jpeg crap including more NR and picture styles and whatever.

Thanks, I'd be interested in whatever links you can find. Btw, my threshold for "proof" is rather high, as in an analytical noise power analysis, including an FFT demonstrating pixel correlation.

Mar 04, 2012 at 10:03 PM

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snapsy wrote:
Thanks, I'd be interested in whatever links you can find. Btw, my threshold for "proof" is rather high, as in an analytical noise power analysis, including an FFT demonstrating pixel correlation.

I don't have the knowledge of physics/engineering to even understand the terms you used. From the above, I gather you know a lot about this already, and maybe you are just pulling my chain and trying to get me to pull up some evidence that you have already seen and already feel isn't valid. If this is true then I find that disrespectful as you may as well just come out and say that. If you haven't actually researched this topic then I will try to search and find the info that I had read (this may have been over a year ago and would have been originally linked from a thread on either FM or DPReview).

I'm not trying to be or come across as an expert on this topic at all. I had just read threads and linked articles in the past. Please let me know if I should try and find the info that I read but if you have read and maybe even discussed this on the forums before then a link to past discussions would be great.

Mar 04, 2012 at 10:16 PM

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arbitrage wrote:
I don't have the knowledge of physics/engineering to even understand the terms you used. From the above, I gather you know a lot about this already, and maybe you are just pulling my chain and trying to get me to pull up some evidence that you have already seen and already feel isn't valid. If this is true then I find that disrespectful as you may as well just come out and say that. If you haven't actually researched this topic then I will try to search and find the info that I had read (this may have been over...Show more →

Not at all. If I was jerking your chain I would ask you for what evidence you have and then tell you why I think it's insufficient. Instead I indicated up front what type of evidence is necessary to prove any claims about raw NR. I've done my own searches in the past and never found anything legitimate for Canon or Nikon DSLRs. There is proof for Pentax and Sony however.

Mar 04, 2012 at 10:25 PM

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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · 5DIII Images on BETA Camera

arbitrage wrote:
It has been proven that there is (I will try to google and find where I read this, it was a while ago). Nikon has a lot more NR on RAW files. Canon's press release for the 5D MkIII states that they have applied NR before it hits the Digic 5+ so I assume this would be in the RAW file before the Digic 5+ converts to jpeg and does all the other jpeg crap including more NR and picture styles and whatever.

Not true!! Nikon gives you the ability to turn High ISO RAW off completely. And when it is on it will only kick in at higher ISO.

Mar 04, 2012 at 10:33 PM

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