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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Neither for Canon nor Nikon - Zeiss AF


Hi,

Sony makes, among others, these beautiful lenses
for the Sony Alpha:

1) http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/463923-REG/Sony_SAL1680Z_SAL_1680Z_16_80mm_f_3_5_4_5_Carl.html

2) http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/582764-REG/Sony_SAL1635Z_SAL_1635Z_16_35mm_f_2_8_ZA.html

3) http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/545868-REG/Sony_SAL2470Z_SAL_2470Z_24_70mm_f_2_8_Carl.html

It is a shame not to have something like that for
Nikon or Canon. The new Zeiss lenses for
Nikon or Canon are not cheap and don't have AF.

Kind regards,

igmolinav : ) !!!



Feb 15, 2012 at 03:58 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Neither for Canon nor Nikon - Zeiss AF


you have www.conurus.com for a 17-35 for canon


Feb 15, 2012 at 04:42 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Neither for Canon nor Nikon - Zeiss AF


Don't expect it, if it happens Canon and Nikon will go to memory shortly.As Canon never granted to any 3rd party to make EF-mount lenses.But some tough guys like Cosina makes non-AF ZE,ZF,and Sigma, Tamron... produce AF EF mount lens, but they are considered low quality (but some are not ) and seem not jeopardize Canon L serie lens market .It would be a big legal war among lens makers if one of them dare to make Carl Zeiss T* AF EF mount.Simple that lens production is the most profitable branch in photography industry ( pls review Kodak camera production death).But I think Sigma has a chance here for a coup: it has the best sensor ever made : Foveon, it also owns SA mount protocol that understandable to Canon lenses -if Sigma makes Carl Zeiss T* SA AF for it's own SD cameras, we, the brave ALTers switch to EF in minutes.


Feb 15, 2012 at 04:54 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Neither for Canon nor Nikon - Zeiss AF


^Yeah, we all know how popular Sigma cameras are among alt shooters...


Feb 15, 2012 at 05:54 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Neither for Canon nor Nikon - Zeiss AF


I prefer the non AF lenses with ZE and ZF mount to any of the 3 AF lenses in your links. I have seven ZE lenses. But I would not buy any of those zooms if they came out in ZE mounts and had AF


Feb 15, 2012 at 09:21 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Neither for Canon nor Nikon - Zeiss AF


I'm with Lars on that one too. And those Sony lenses are NOT cheap!




Feb 15, 2012 at 10:16 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Neither for Canon nor Nikon - Zeiss AF


Those lenses can be used if you buy a sony alpha camera.


Feb 15, 2012 at 10:23 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Neither for Canon nor Nikon - Zeiss AF


Lars Johnsson wrote:
I prefer the non AF lenses with ZE and ZF mount to any of the 3 AF lenses in your links. I have seven ZE lenses. But I would not buy any of those zooms if they came out in ZE mounts and had AF


the 135/1.8 looks very tempting though, or at least it would if i liked the focal length more and it had better manual focus.



Feb 15, 2012 at 10:37 AM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Neither for Canon nor Nikon - Zeiss AF


The Nikon 14-24, 24 1.4, canon 85 1.2, and both their tilt shift lenses I covet.

Otherwise as a previous Nikon and Canon shooter, I vastly prefer the Sony alpha system and their lenses. One big weakness is weather sealing though, wish they did that!



Feb 15, 2012 at 10:49 AM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Neither for Canon nor Nikon - Zeiss AF


The new 16-50 is said to be sealed but not any of the Zeiss. They may eventually update them but that'd mean having to buy updated lenses again for those who already have them.


Feb 15, 2012 at 11:25 AM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Neither for Canon nor Nikon - Zeiss AF


Hi,

you have www.conurus.com for a 17-35 for canon

Yes, the last Contax Zeiss N 17-35 mm. lens I saw, was going for
some $1,500 used. Plus a service in Kyocera Japan if needed,
($400), plus conversion in conurus, ($1009). That is quite a bit
for anybody's pocket. The 16-35 mm. Zeiss for Sony is $1,900,
and new. The Contax Zeiss lens is at least 10 years old, it may
not mean anything.


I prefer the non AF lenses with ZE and ZF mount to any of the 3 AF lenses in your links. I have seven ZE lenses. But I would not buy any of those zooms if they came out in ZE mounts and had AF

For me, a zoom is appealing because it covers several of the focal lengths of several primes. Of course, a zoom is not as luminous as a prime, but camera bodies now offer
higher ISOs. I have been shooting with 1600 ISO and f/4 at very dark situations. I just
need something that improves a bit my shooting situation in this regard. Many cameras
now offer a 6400 ISO and it is still ok for me to shoot with f/4. A good zoom like any of the above, (a good zoom of any brand I'd say), would do good I think. (Zeiss is very good
however).


I'm with Lars on that one too. And those Sony lenses are NOT cheap!

Unfortunately, the most expensive of any of those zooms, costs less than two of most ZE primes.


Those lenses can be used if you buy a sony alpha camera

I kind of liked the Sony alpha A55, but I am not sure how it may perform with video.
I also want my new dSLR to do video. For this, a Canon 60D or Rebel T3i are perhaps
much better, even though the sony camera promises very good video performance and
quality.


Otherwise as a previous Nikon and Canon shooter, I vastly prefer the Sony alpha system and their lenses. One big weakness is weather sealing though, wish they did that!

Are you now a Sony alpha user ?? If so, which camera are you using ??

I was totally bashed at another forum for saying the following, but perhaps it may be a bit true. I say it here with a twist. One may need to have different camera systems. A Canon/Nikon body with one lens and perhaps a Sony body with another lens. Many already use here a body brand and switch to different brands for lenses. I am suggesting a bit now to use different camera systems(??) It is perhaps crazy, I know, but I have seen several working photographers doing it. However, that is where the difference lies: I am not a full time photographer to be able to do that, and personally it is perhaps good to keep one's gear to a minimum.

Thank you again, kind regards,

igmolinav : ) !!!



Feb 15, 2012 at 01:13 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Neither for Canon nor Nikon - Zeiss AF


I don't think that's a bad idea, it only hurts you in terms of batteries, remotes, and flash systems. A lot of serious photographers use proprietary non-TTL flash rigs anyway.

Otherwise, filters, tripods, bags, etc are mostly the same or easily adaptable. Most importantly, your workflow probably won't change much once you've built up your own camera/color profiles.

I wouldn't mind having a D800 + 14-24mm F2.8, a A99 + Zeiss 135mm F1.8 + Zeiss 24-70mm F2.8, and a Canon 5D Mk 3 + 50mm L F1.2, D800E + 35mm F1.4 AF-S + 24mm F1.4 AF-S.



Feb 15, 2012 at 01:16 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Neither for Canon nor Nikon - Zeiss AF


AhamB wrote:
^Yeah, we all know how popular Sigma cameras are among alt shooters...

Er, you might not catch my ideas, let me again make it clearer: I wrote: "...ALTers switch to EF in minutes". it means the conversion from AF SA mount to AF EF mount is a super easy task and those T* AF SA may go mostly to satisfy Canon shooters as the super deluxe lens, while a smaller amount go to face-up SD shooters and as to meet the demands of higher resolution of Foveon sensor. Sigma SD1 will have a very affordable price ...next month. I think everyone , who is IQ seeking need a try- and if try it with a Zeiss T*or Leica lens, it may worth a screaming: " How talented ....I am ".
PS: Sigma USA starts to sell SD1 at the US $ 2.299, while Merrill SD1, DP1, DP2 versions are still not available.I think I can wait a little for that Merrill logo on my SD1.

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Feb 15, 2012 at 08:36 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Neither for Canon nor Nikon - Zeiss AF


igmolinav wrote:
Hi,



I prefer the non AF lenses with ZE and ZF mount to any of the 3 AF lenses in your links. I have seven ZE lenses. But I would not buy any of those zooms if they came out in ZE mounts and had AF

For me, a zoom is appealing because it covers several of the focal lengths of several primes. Of course, a zoom is not as luminous as a prime, but camera bodies now offer
higher ISOs. I have been shooting with 1600 ISO and f/4 at very dark situations. I just
need something that improves a bit my shooting situation...Show more



For me it's not about high ISO, when I use a fast prime lens. It's about beeing able to blur the background and isolate the subject. And also the bokeh.
Good high ISO and f/4 will not help me at all



Feb 15, 2012 at 09:18 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Neither for Canon nor Nikon - Zeiss AF


Snopchenko wrote:
The new 16-50 is said to be sealed but not any of the Zeiss. They may eventually update them but that'd mean having to buy updated lenses again for those who already have them.


The 16-50 is the only sealed A mount lens, made to match the A77 which is the only weather-sealed body. I expect all newer high-end Sony lenses to be sealed in the future.



Feb 15, 2012 at 09:43 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Neither for Canon nor Nikon - Zeiss AF


Makes me wonder why they didn't do that in the first place. 16-35, 24/2, 24-70, 85, 135, 70-200 all should've been sealed from the start. And I mean, uh, it's not exactly rocket science to add some rubber fittings to the mount and seams, innit?


Feb 16, 2012 at 02:28 AM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Neither for Canon nor Nikon - Zeiss AF


JimUe wrote:
Those lenses can be used if you buy a sony alpha camera.

Which I will probably never do, my NEX 7 is as close as I will most likely ever get.
Also I'm not a big zoom fan, I only have 3 zooms in my Canon system, and I will possibly get the new 24-70, which could mean the 24-105 may be sold, the only other zoom I have is CZJ 70-210 and I wish it wasn't a zoom.



Feb 16, 2012 at 11:46 AM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Neither for Canon nor Nikon - Zeiss AF


FlyPenFly wrote:
I wouldn't mind having a D800 + 14-24mm F2.8, a A99 + Zeiss 135mm F1.8 + Zeiss 24-70mm F2.8, and a Canon 5D Mk 3 + 50mm L F1.2, D800E + 35mm F1.4 AF-S + 24mm F1.4 AF-S.


Oooh, FPF, you just blew my mind with that dream setup.



Feb 16, 2012 at 11:57 AM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Neither for Canon nor Nikon - Zeiss AF


igmolinav wrote:
I kind of liked the Sony alpha A55, but I am not sure how it may perform with video.
I also want my new dSLR to do video. For this, a Canon 60D or Rebel T3i are perhaps
much better, even though the sony camera promises very good video performance and
quality.



The a65/A77 both have full manual controls for video, 1080p, from 24p to 60p. They also of course have the fast continuous AF during video that is unique to Sony. If video is the only thing holding you back, I'd give it another look.



Feb 16, 2012 at 12:23 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Neither for Canon nor Nikon - Zeiss AF


The A850 and A900 are weather sealed. But yeah, all the ZA line should have been weather sealed from the start. Although Zeiss itself doesn't seem to believe in it since none of their lenses ever have been weather sealed. Maybe something about not letting some air move in and out compromises their values.


Feb 16, 2012 at 12:45 PM
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