Gunzorro wrote:
Is this MA product, or others, suitable for models other than 5D2 or 7D? Such as models without MA function, like 60D? Or older models such as 1D2, 1Ds2? .
In a recent email response from the developer, he said that the software for all MFA equipped bodies should be ontrack by the end of the month, which will include the 1DmkIII and IV.
QUOTE - "I'm hoping to have all Canon cameras supported in a release by the end of January."
Does anyone have issues with the site requiring serial numbers for any camera you want to use with the software?
Looks like they want to limit you to use on 5 camera bodies. But they require you to register the bodies' S/N's before buying the program. So what is the S/N for my next body?
And has anyone checked the program to see if it "calls home" when you use it? Since that's one of the ways programmers add spyware to your systems and do other nefarious things, got to be concerned about that stuff these days, unfortunately.
trueimage: What is the forum & link you mentioned for this?
Gunzorro wrote:
Is this MA product, or others, suitable for models other than 5D2 or 7D? Such as models without MA function, like 60D? Or older models such as 1D2, 1Ds2?
If the body is not capable of MA then how are you going to MA it ?
As it stands you can see if a lens/body is in need of adjustment and how much it would be if MA was possible as long as live view is in the body (so basically the 40D/60D and LV rebels) by using the tethered utility that canon provide. Focus on a target then go to live view on the comp screen and then click < > . Each of the smallest steps is equal to +/- 1 MA
Still no MA remedy for Alt or aftermarket MF lenses like Zeiss/Voigtlander or Samyang, Leica?
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Well as they are all manual focus , what would you gain ? And how would you get the body to step the focus to change the MA setting ? If your going to manual focus with alt glass then a decent focus screen or live view will be you best options.
Does anyone have issues with the site requiring serial numbers for any camera you want to use with the software?
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You must register each body. You can't buy one license and calibrate every camera for your camera club.
And has anyone checked the program to see if it "calls home" when you use it?
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I got a message that the program tried to call out but ZA blocked it. I've used the program many more times and it works fine. Anyone concerned about this should already be blocking outbound traffic, so I see this as a non-issue.
Still no MA remedy for Alt or aftermarket MF lenses like Zeiss/Voigtlander or Samyang, Leica?
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In the field i hear this all the time. Just to be clear calibration only applies to Auto focus. There is no such thing as calibration for manual focus.
Thanks for your reply. How are the owl photos coming along? & Happy New Year.
On the program details: Yep we block any "unauthorized" program from calling home. But I have reservations about giving too much equipment info to anyone. There are certainly other ways to handle the guy's desire to increase purchases of his software.
& no I can't afford more than 5 bodies. And I have no desire to calibrate any club's cameras. I just don't like having to give detailed info out to anyone. But were I to "take the plunge" and get a 1D mk4 sometime this year, I certainly would want to be able to use the program with it.
And if the program "reads" the camera S/N?, what else is it reading and trying to collect? imho all programmers should state clearly what they are doing on things like that. One just has to take a look at the garbage array of programs for Android phones that try to "call home" with every detail they can find in one's phone. (& we sort those out too.) But we should not have to put up with con's like that, me thinks.
Rodney O wrote:
But were I to "take the plunge" and get a 1D mk4 sometime this year, I certainly would want to be able to use the program with it.
Rodney
The current software only works on the 7D and 5D MKII. He is working on the 1DsMKIII and 50D so you would have to buy new software anyway for your 1DMKIV.
Jim Victory wrote:
The current software only works on the 7D and 5D MKII. He is working on the 1DsMKIII and 50D so you would have to buy new software anyway for your 1DMKIV.
Jim
As Rich said earlier in my post, his programs should be out by the end of the month for all Canon supported MFA bodies......
?? Another 50 pounds? I'd guessed that an upgrade might suffice for the versions with more bodies?
But the reality is that unless something happens with the economy, I can't add a 1D mk4. Neither me or the "alternate me". But I do have a 50D as well as my 7D that I'd like to use the software with.
And btw I extend congrats to the author for tackling the manual MA issues. Automating it is a great improvement to have.
Have any of the beta testers tried this with Fusion virtualization software on a Mac? I'm guessing that it will work but I would like to confirm. Thanks.
Ian.Dobinson wrote: If the body is not capable of MA then how are you going to MA it ?
As it stands you can see if a lens/body is in need of adjustment and how much it would be if MA was possible as long as live view is in the body (so basically the 40D/60D and LV rebels) by using the tethered utility that canon provide. Focus on a target then go to live view on the comp screen and then click < > . Each of the smallest steps is equal to +/- 1 MA
Well as they are all manual focus , what would you gain ? And how would you get the body to step the focus to change the MA setting ? If your going to manual focus with alt glass then a decent focus screen or live view will be you best options....Show more →
Hi Ian -- Regarding your first response; I may be overly optimistic or just dumb enough to hope that an improvement through firmware would allow improvements in focus with these older bodies. Just checking!
On the second -- I've had Nikon AI/AIS lenses that display front and back focus on Nikon (AF) bodies, especially the D7000 (along with AF lenses). I was again hoping that there would be a computer/firmware internal body adjustment that could help with manual lenses having front or back focus issues on particular bodies -- it's not uncommon to have the image look great in the OVF, the be OOF in the critical areas. In the past, this meant sending the body in to the manufactuer (for me, either Canon or Nikon) to have the front or back focus adjusted. I could imagine it being done at home via computer control of the camera's focusing mechanism -- does that seem so far-fetched? I guess so.
Basically, if you are using older gear without LV and MA, and/or are using manual focus lenses (and what about aftermarket lenses -- have we established whether these MA solutions work on them too?) , you are in the same boat as me -- send the body back to the maker to be taken care of, along with any lenses that might be out of calibration. I don't see that as a problem, and wonder about why my putting in my own time as a camera tech to adjust lenese is seen as an asset. I feel I'm doing the job the camera should have been doing.
I certainly see the benefit of having images that are in focus and the desire of owners to consistently achieve accurate focus. No problem there! And I'm not trying to belittle that urge for top quality images.
Gunzorro wrote:
Hi Ian -- Regarding your first response; I may be overly optimistic or just dumb enough to hope that an improvement through firmware would allow improvements in focus with these older bodies. Just checking!
On the second -- I've had Nikon AI/AIS lenses that display front and back focus on Nikon (AF) bodies, especially the D7000 (along with AF lenses). I was again hoping that there would be a computer/firmware internal body adjustment that could help with manual lenses having front or back focus issues on particular bodies -- it's not uncommon to have the image look great in the OVF, the be OOF in the critical areas. In the past, this meant sending the body in to the manufactuer (for me, either Canon or Nikon) to have the front or back focus adjusted. I could imagine it being done at home via computer control of the camera's focusing mechanism -- does that seem so far-fetched? I guess so.
Basically, if you are using older gear without LV and MA, and/or are using manual focus lenses (and what about aftermarket lenses -- have we established whether these MA solutions work on them too?) , you are in the same boat as me -- send the body back to the maker to be taken care of, along with any lenses that might be out of calibration. I don't see that as a problem, and wonder about why my putting in my own time as a camera tech to adjust lenese is seen as an asset. I feel I'm doing the job the camera should have been doing.
I certainly see the benefit of having images that are in focus and the desire of owners to consistently achieve accurate focus. No problem there! And I'm not trying to belittle that urge for top quality images.
OK . MF lenses and bodies needing sorting. if the what you see is in focus in the Viewfinder but OOF in the image then the focus screen needs sorting. if your wanting to rely on the focus confirm light then yes some sort of calibration of that system would be needed. BUT why rely on the focus light when one of the joys of MF is putting the focus point where YOU want it not where the AF point wants it to be. A screen like the precission 'S' screens would be much the better choice. screens can sometimes need shimming to get then dialed in. but thats something a decent repair shop could do.
3rd party lenses.
the MA system in the canon bodies does not seem to be bothered what you stick on the it . I ma'ed a old 300/4 HSM and 30/1.4 (both sigma) without issue. so 3rd party should be no issue.
You may want to ask if anyone has tried a ZE lens . these are (as far as i can tell) fully EF compatable . so i theory you should be able to have a setting in the camera that would take any offset into account when the focus confirm comes on.
dlodi wrote:
Have any of the beta testers tried this with Fusion virtualization software on a Mac? I'm guessing that it will work but I would like to confirm. Thanks.
Dave
There is no version for Mac yet. The creator will start on that when this release is operating smoothly. He wants to add more bodies to the line up as well.
Got this ordered and am looking forward to trying this w/ my 7D and 5D2. I hope people who are trying it will post back with their results.
I need to decide whether to sell my 7D or 1D2n, and hopefully being able to MA the 7D easily will make a difference in which body to keep. At present, I am leaning toward 1D2n simply because I don't *have* to MA anything (MA makes me want to tear my hair out).
If the body is not capable of MA then how are you going to MA it ? 
