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Archive 2011 · A collection of 25mm f2 Shots with the new zeiss

  
 
Jorge Torralba
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p.5 #1 · A collection of 25mm f2 Shots with the new zeiss


The focus point was the door on the 2nd balcony.

The corners are too close in to really see anything. They would be at a different focusing distance and out of focus.

None the less, I can't do anything else since I shipped the lens back to Zeiss today.

Regardless of the sharpness, no one seems to mention CA from the canon.



Nov 30, 2011 at 04:14 PM
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p.5 #2 · A collection of 25mm f2 Shots with the new zeiss


If center focus was bang on maybe the Canon has more extreme field curvature?


Nov 30, 2011 at 04:37 PM
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p.5 #3 · A collection of 25mm f2 Shots with the new zeiss


Jorge Torralba wrote:
The focus point was the door on the 2nd balcony.


Did you focus the Canon manually using live view out of curiosity?



Nov 30, 2011 at 04:45 PM
Smiert Spionam
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p.5 #4 · A collection of 25mm f2 Shots with the new zeiss


The Canon is focused more or less on the car in the foreground, so the comparison is fairly meaningless.


Nov 30, 2011 at 04:47 PM
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p.5 #5 · A collection of 25mm f2 Shots with the new zeiss


kosmoskatten wrote:
Wayne; will try and find that thread.

Johnahill: both lenses look fine to me. I had the R28v2 myself, and the old C/Y Zeiss 25/2.8 - which I really liked except for wide open performance.

LotusM50: Yes, it certainly has been improved by the looks of it.

Tariq: maybe the 25/2 is meant to be a close quarter lens. I would however expect great performance (stopped down) at infinity for a modern lens. Especially from Zeiss.


This is the Nikon 24/1.4G wide open thread in the Nikon forum I was talking about:

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/889216/13



Nov 30, 2011 at 04:58 PM
Jorge Torralba
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p.5 #6 · A collection of 25mm f2 Shots with the new zeiss


Smiert Spionam wrote:
The Canon is focused more or less on the car in the foreground, so the comparison is fairly meaningless.


I would disagree a little here. If it was truly focused on the car in the foreground, the bricks and detail you see in the roof line of the building would be out of focus especially at f2.8, yet, they display very distinguishable detail.



Nov 30, 2011 at 04:59 PM
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p.5 #7 · A collection of 25mm f2 Shots with the new zeiss


I said more or less -- it's clearly not focused on the building, but on something considerably closer.


Nov 30, 2011 at 05:47 PM
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p.5 #8 · A collection of 25mm f2 Shots with the new zeiss


Maybe it just looks oof because the zeiss is much better.


Nov 30, 2011 at 05:52 PM
Tariq Gibran
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p.5 #9 · A collection of 25mm f2 Shots with the new zeiss


FlyPenFly wrote:
Maybe it just looks oof because the zeiss is much better.


If we had a 100 percent detail of say the car door handles as I mentioned, things may be easier to see but from even just looking at the closest part of the roof rack of the F 2.8 shot, the Zeiss looks softer than the Canon in that area. This is what makes the focus point suspicious for me.



Nov 30, 2011 at 06:06 PM
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p.5 #10 · A collection of 25mm f2 Shots with the new zeiss


FlyPenFly wrote:
Maybe it just looks oof because the zeiss is much better.


If any of my Canon lenses were as bad as the 24L II building example @2.8, I would send it in for repair immediately. That includes all 10 Canon lenses I own with maximum aperture 2.8 or wider, from the cheapest to the most expensive. And the 24L II actually is known for exceptionally high center resolution at f/2.8.

I agree that the micro contrast and CA control of the 25/2 is exceptional.

I also agree with Tariq that Lloyd Chambers' examples show a less than perfect corner behaviour at f/11, even when we try to account for FC. But it depends. Some examples show decent corner performance at f/8. Not concluding, I would suggest that his copy may be better in the right hand corners than in the left hand corners.

Anyway, for stopped down performance across the frame, it will be hard to beat the Canon TS-E 24 II. That would be a more interesting comparison for landscape usage.



Nov 30, 2011 at 06:10 PM
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p.5 #11 · A collection of 25mm f2 Shots with the new zeiss


Jorge,

The 2.0/25 looks great - stellar in fact. Good job on the comparisons too as well as the gallery and your review.

I have a 1.4/35 ZK2 and am thinking about getting either the new 2.0/25 or the 2.8/21 ZK2 lens. Since you are definitely a Zeiss expert, I would like your opinion - With one of the two? How crazy would it be to get both? Lastly, how important is the 10 degree FOV difference to you?

Thanks in advance.

JT
www.jimtrunck.com




Dec 01, 2011 at 02:16 PM
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p.5 #12 · A collection of 25mm f2 Shots with the new zeiss


So how does this lens compare to the the Sigma EX 24mm f/1.8 :-)
Seriously.

I just picked up the Sigma second-hand and I'm impressed with it already on the Sony A850. It seems quite sharp wide open near the center and has very great closeup capability. I've not done any tests to see if the corners also hold up.

Only cons so far that I've experienced is anemic focusing speed (lack of HSM on Sony models) and its a bit bulky.

All of my recent gear "for sale" pictures were taken with it on the A700, handheld in poor lighting. Only WB/exposure corrections made:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hopeiseternal/6363625119/in/photostream/




Dec 01, 2011 at 05:11 PM
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p.5 #13 · A collection of 25mm f2 Shots with the new zeiss


To Jorge, thank you for posting the new comparative images, very informative.


Dec 02, 2011 at 12:12 AM
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p.5 #14 · A collection of 25mm f2 Shots with the new zeiss


alundeb: the Canon 24/3.5L seems to be an exceptional lens (exceptional in that Canon made it - wide angle lenses were never their strongest field) and very suitable for landscape work. They have released a few promising wide angles the past couple of years. Kudos for that.

As I am a manual focus guy I have little to no interest in them myself and much prefer solid manual focus lenses. I would probably get the EF 17/4 TSII for interiors though. (not sure I got the name right but I don't check out Canon gear on a regular basis)

Thanks Wayne, it sure looks good. Bokeh is a bit Zeissy (a la Contax 28) in the temple shot. I am not sure I want to know the price tag on the lens though...






Dec 02, 2011 at 07:21 AM
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p.5 #15 · A collection of 25mm f2 Shots with the new zeiss


kosmoskatten wrote:
As I am a manual focus guy I have little to no interest in them myself and much prefer solid manual focus lenses. I would probably get the EF 17/4 TSII for interiors though. (not sure I got the name right but I don't check out Canon gear on a regular basis)


Since you are a manual focus guy, it may be of interest to know that EF stands for "ElectroFocus". Since the Tilt/Shift lenses don't have electrical focus, they don't either carry the EF moniker, but instead TS-E (They still have electrical aperture control and fit the EOS mount)



Dec 02, 2011 at 08:05 AM
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