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Archive 2011 · 70-200mkII is Freaking Awesome

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p.2 #1 · p.2 #1 · 70-200mkII is Freaking Awesome

Not to let urine runneth over the discussion like whey and gushy cheese curd, but it's a $2,500 #@$@ Canon zoom lens. It had better be good!!!

Meh, I'm irascible, what's gotten into me?

Jun 08, 2011 at 11:18 PM

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p.2 #2 · p.2 #2 · 70-200mkII is Freaking Awesome

Stunning shots!! This lens is on my list.

Jun 08, 2011 at 11:21 PM

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p.2 #3 · p.2 #3 · 70-200mkII is Freaking Awesome

Probably asked and answered elsewhere, but are you having to do any of the micro-adjust nonsense with this lens? Or does it just work the way it's supposed to?

Jun 08, 2011 at 11:38 PM

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p.2 #4 · p.2 #4 · 70-200mkII is Freaking Awesome

Yep, the 70-200II is awesome. It has replaced my 100/2, 135L and 70-200 f/4 IS all together as a main portrait/event lens. I love the way it renders human skin. It's colors, contrast and bokeh are absolutely gorgeous.

Some family snapshots (all LR3 5D2 RAW conversions @ default values):

105mm, 2.8 (ISO1600)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2283/5813853303_8283b9eb67_b.jpg

200mm, 2.8 (ISO800)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5182/5813853299_6d62edc7ea_b.jpg

130mm, 2.8 (ISO800)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3436/5813853295_f931640e82_b.jpg

200mm, 2.8 (ISO3200)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2757/5813853287_263f4325a1_b.jpg

Michael H wrote:
Probably asked and answered elsewhere, but are you having to do any of the micro-adjust nonsense with this lens? Or does it just work the way it's supposed to?

My lens is OK, but the 5D2 needed an adjustment of +3. It's not always the lens that needs calibration.

Jun 09, 2011 at 01:05 AM

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p.2 #5 · p.2 #5 · 70-200mkII is Freaking Awesome

Yes, really. Well, it does for me but, as always, YMMV.

I've posted several samples here if you are interested:

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/976909

drew.bowser wrote:
Really!? That makes me happy. I was considering getting a 1.4x tc to use and I think I might do it. I mean you can get the mk2 tc for like 200 bucks!

Jun 09, 2011 at 02:48 AM

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p.2 #6 · p.2 #6 · 70-200mkII is Freaking Awesome

bobbytan wrote:
Yup ... I gave up my 100-400L because I think the 70-200L II + TC serves me better.

Is it so good with 2xTC ? I have 100-400L, and would buy 7-2II but having both in the bag will be heavy, so I'm asking to ad a 2xTC and sell the 100-400L. Also,which 2cTX do you use, the last one (III?) ?

Kib

Jun 09, 2011 at 03:39 AM

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p.2 #7 · p.2 #7 · 70-200mkII is Freaking Awesome

Daan, I don't think this lenses bokeh is a standout feature. Let's not run away with ourselves.

Jun 09, 2011 at 03:48 AM

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p.2 #8 · p.2 #8 · 70-200mkII is Freaking Awesome

Savas K wrote:
Daan, I don't think this lenses bokeh is a standout feature. Let's not run away with ourselves.

Well... maybe not absolutely gorgeous... but certainly usable

BTW After doing some 135L vs 70-200II @ 135mm comparisons and seeing them on the internet, there isn't really much difference between these two lenses @ 2.8 when it comes to bokeh. Of course the 135L can go to f/2, but I wouldn't dismiss the 70-200II for it's bokeh too soon.

Jun 09, 2011 at 06:44 AM

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p.2 #9 · p.2 #9 · 70-200mkII is Freaking Awesome

Love the modeling shots! Wow - and yes, this lens is totally prime-like at f2.8. Here's a BIF that shows it's stellar focusing and sharpness at f2.8 and it's a 100% crop.

http://fadely.smugmug.com/Other/Zs-gallery/i-SX8KpG4/0/XL/IMG6635l-XL.jpg

Date Taken
2011-05-11 21:00:47

Camera

Canon EOS 5D Mark II

Exposure Time
0.0006s (1/1600)

Aperture
f/2.8

ISO
400

Focal Length
200mm (200mm in 35mm)

Jun 09, 2011 at 10:31 AM

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p.2 #10 · p.2 #10 · 70-200mkII is Freaking Awesome

My hat is off to you Mark...that's not an easy shot to get...and with the 'crappy' 5D2 AF no less!

Have to agree with the gist of the thread too...the 70-200 II is definitely an impressive lens IME.

Jun 09, 2011 at 12:51 PM

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p.2 #11 · p.2 #11 · 70-200mkII is Freaking Awesome

ChrisRD wrote:
My hat is off to you Mark...that's not an easy shot to get...and with the 'crappy' 5D2 AF no less!

Jun 09, 2011 at 01:04 PM

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p.2 #12 · p.2 #12 · 70-200mkII is Freaking Awesome

ChrisRD wrote:
My hat is off to you Mark...that's not an easy shot to get...and with the 'crappy' 5D2 AF no less!

Have to agree with the gist of the thread too...the 70-200 II is definitely an impressive lens IME.

Thanks Chris and Peter,

What is really impressing me about this lens besides the great IQ and sharpness is the amazing resolution. When you couple it with a high-res body like the 5DII the results are just incredible. You can make 100% crops that look better than full res shots from other respected lens/body combos. I'm not saying cropping is the way to go; it's just that having the capability is a testament to the virility of the equipment. In my opinion the 5DII/70-200II combo has been one of the most significant steps of progress in digital imaging over the last several years.

Jun 09, 2011 at 02:37 PM

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p.2 #13 · p.2 #13 · 70-200mkII is Freaking Awesome

You guys are going to get me in some serious hot water with the Mrs.!!!

Jun 09, 2011 at 02:55 PM

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p.2 #14 · p.2 #14 · 70-200mkII is Freaking Awesome

Yes, I agree with what has been said. My 135L is collecting dust since I got the 70-200 II

http://staff.ltam.lu/sibcl/LuxOpen/7.jpg
(with 1D4)

Claude

Jun 09, 2011 at 03:03 PM

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p.2 #15 · p.2 #15 · 70-200mkII is Freaking Awesome

Michael H wrote:
Probably asked and answered elsewhere, but are you having to do any of the micro-adjust nonsense with this lens? Or does it just work the way it's supposed to?

No MA for me...MA isnt really supposed to be used on Zooms if I remember correctly... I could be wrong.

Jun 09, 2011 at 03:04 PM

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p.2 #16 · p.2 #16 · 70-200mkII is Freaking Awesome

Savas K wrote:
Daan, I don't think this lenses bokeh is a standout feature. Let's not run away with ourselves.

For a zoom, its amazing, but I dont think it compares to a fast L prime like the 85 or 135...but its not far off...

Jun 09, 2011 at 03:07 PM

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p.2 #17 · p.2 #17 · 70-200mkII is Freaking Awesome

It's my favorite lens. Wasn't crazy about the original as it was soft wide open. After using it for a couple of months, I sold both the 135L and the 100-400L. Never missed 'em...


	http://jeffrader.smugmug.com/photos/1152117376_adRWj-XL.jpg

Jun 09, 2011 at 06:13 PM

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p.2 #18 · p.2 #18 · 70-200mkII is Freaking Awesome

I hate this thread and all it's predecessors and those that will surely follow... I'm mentally listing all the lenses I can sell to get one, and you know what? I'm not that far off! Temptation is tempting!

Jun 09, 2011 at 06:34 PM

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p.2 #19 · p.2 #19 · 70-200mkII is Freaking Awesome

"No MA for me...MA isnt really supposed to be used on Zooms if I remember correctly... I could be wrong."

Of course you can and should use micro adjust to dial in all of you lenses, zooms included. The recommendation is to do your micro adjust at the long end of the zoom range. If the lens needs a different setting at other focal lengths, there are internal adjustments Canon can make to bring them all in line. To have to do some micro adjusting is absolutely normal. It allow you to compensate for normal factory manufacturing tolerances. Some lenses need no adjustment, some slight, and others more.

"For a zoom, its amazing, but I dont think it compares to a fast L prime like the 85 or 135...but its not far off..."

For a zoom it IS amazing and what's so amazing is that other than minor distortions at both end of the zoom range, it's actually sharper than the lenses it replaces, even wide open. That this lens is sharper than a very sharp copy of 200mm 1.8 when both are wide open speaks volumes. Stop the prime to 2.8 and they are equal. And it does so with excellent contrast wide open as well.

Jun 09, 2011 at 06:44 PM

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p.2 #20 · p.2 #20 · 70-200mkII is Freaking Awesome

On the 1D3 at least, Canon recommend not using MA if you're using AI servo mode. Something to do with the tolerances for servo outweighing those of MA.

Jun 09, 2011 at 07:05 PM

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