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Archive 2011 · D700 /w MB-D10 not at 8fps

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p.3 #1 · p.3 #1 · D700 /w MB-D10 not at 8fps

With a new set of AA's whether you chose the right order, the battery indicator has a vertical forward slash in the middle of the indicator, yours has nothing. Your battery type is correct and you may have the correct order because if low power is indicated from the grip it will automatically change over to the body. But you need to confirm you have D11 changed to look at the grip first. If that is correct, 2 possibilities, dead batteries, faulty grip, its one or the other.

You have the batteries correctly oriented in the holder right? It only takes one in backwards to mess it up.

May 13, 2011 at 09:33 AM

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p.3 #2 · p.3 #2 · D700 /w MB-D10 not at 8fps

This is what you need to use the EN-EL4 battery to get the 8 fps out of the camera...

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/352129-REG/Nikon_4782_BL_3_Battery_Chamber_Cover.html

Or you can use the 8 AA holder that it came with.

May 13, 2011 at 10:13 AM

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p.3 #3 · p.3 #3 · D700 /w MB-D10 not at 8fps

ACNYPhoto wrote:
This is what you need to use the EN-EL4 battery to get the 8 fps out of the camera...

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/352129-REG/Nikon_4782_BL_3_Battery_Chamber_Cover.html

Or you can use the 8 AA holder that it came with.
Have you even read the thread?

May 13, 2011 at 10:15 AM

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p.3 #4 · p.3 #4 · D700 /w MB-D10 not at 8fps

3d af mode turned off?

May 13, 2011 at 10:15 AM

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p.3 #5 · p.3 #5 · D700 /w MB-D10 not at 8fps

Just take the battery out of the camera and only leave the batteries in the grip to see if it's working at all.

May 13, 2011 at 10:52 AM

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p.3 #6 · p.3 #6 · D700 /w MB-D10 not at 8fps

From the picture you posted, the issue is that it thinks the batteries in the grip are dead and has reverted back to the in camera battery. Try recharging all of the batteries (preferably so they are all at the same level of charge) and try again.

May 13, 2011 at 03:32 PM

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p.3 #7 · p.3 #7 · D700 /w MB-D10 not at 8fps

Take the EN-EL3e battery out of the body and put the grip with AA's back on. If you do not have the BP symbol lit, your camera is using powering off of the EL3e battery(regardless of your settings). If you AA charge is a bit low, the D700 is quick to switch over to the Nikon battery which drops you back to 5fps. Taking the battery out of the body takes this option away from the camera, and forces it to power off the AAs.

May 13, 2011 at 03:57 PM

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p.3 #8 · p.3 #8 · D700 /w MB-D10 not at 8fps

Issue solved, the 4 used batteries I've inserted were too low on power. Everything works now

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Thank you all for your help.

Matt.

May 14, 2011 at 03:36 AM

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p.3 #9 · p.3 #9 · D700 /w MB-D10 not at 8fps

jmcfadden wrote:
Just impossible to run a D300 at 14bit and 8fps

here from the nikon site on the D300

Continuous shooting * • With built-in battery: up to 6 fps
• With AC adapter or MB-D10 pack and batteries other than EN-EL3e: up to 8 fps
• 12-bit RAW at full speed, 14-bit RAW only 2.5 fps

I always reserve the right to be proven wrong

My D300 never did 8fps in 14bit either

J

MY D700 +MB-D10 w/ 8xAA batteries is set to 14-bit NEF at 8fps... and I do get 8fps AFAIK...I usually use this when I wanna bracket my shots

May 14, 2011 at 06:13 AM

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p.3 #10 · p.3 #10 · D700 /w MB-D10 not at 8fps

montyjack wrote:
Issue solved, the 4 used batteries I've inserted were too low on power. Everything works now

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Thank you all for your help.

Matt.

ahh there you go... so all the while you were using the in camera battery?

May 14, 2011 at 06:14 AM

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p.3 #11 · p.3 #11 · D700 /w MB-D10 not at 8fps

monk3y wrote:
ahh there you go... so all the while you were using the in camera battery?

Yes, yes.
I'd never think that those batteries are empty, since 4 of them were fresh out of box and other four were not used that much...

Nevermind, atleast everything is okay and I can go to the race with working 8fps.

I can post some photos from the downhill race later on when I come home.

Matt.

May 14, 2011 at 06:30 AM

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p.3 #12 · p.3 #12 · D700 /w MB-D10 not at 8fps

yeah post some

May 14, 2011 at 08:08 AM

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p.3 #13 · p.3 #13 · D700 /w MB-D10 not at 8fps

This issue comes up routinely, and new owners are always concerned that something is malfunctioning or they need to buy something else. The EN-EL4 batteries are the way to go, but costly. AA's will give you the 8fps and do so all the way down to dead batteries. Some think that as the charge of the batteries depletes, their fps drops. Not true. The drop in fps is because your camera discretely switches over to the EN-EL3e battery. Using AA, I can get only around 200-300 shots before this switch occurs and frame rate drops, even though there is plenty of juice left in the AAs. If using the AAs and no battery in the body, you can expect around 1000 or more frames, with 8fps ability up until the camera powers down.

This is NEVER caused by NR, ADL, ISO, 12 vs 14bit, RAW compression settings, etc. And never because of CF card size or speed. These things have a big impact on buffer size/speed, but ZERO impact on the cameras capability to shoot it's high fps. Certain AF setting can cause continuous shooting to stumble a bit it's having difficulty acquiring focus, but the info screen should still show 8fps.

Glad you got it working.

May 14, 2011 at 09:20 AM

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p.3 #14 · p.3 #14 · D700 /w MB-D10 not at 8fps

mfletch wrote:
This issue comes up routinely, and new owners are always concerned that something is malfunctioning or they need to buy something else. The EN-EL4 batteries are the way to go, but costly. AA's will give you the 8fps and do so all the way down to dead batteries. Some think that as the charge of the batteries depletes, their fps drops. Not true. The drop in fps is because your camera discretely switches over to the EN-EL3e battery. Using AA, I can get only around 200-300 shots before this switch occurs and frame rate drops, even though there is plenty...Show more →

So you are saying that:

- when I have 8x AA's in the grip and EN-EL3e in the body I can get 200-300 shots in 8fps, and
- when I have 8x AA's in the grip and nothing in body I can get 1000 shots with 8fps?

Correct me if I misunderstood, but this seems very strange to me.

May 14, 2011 at 09:26 AM

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p.3 #15 · p.3 #15 · D700 /w MB-D10 not at 8fps

montyjack wrote:
So you are saying that:

- when I have 8x AA's in the grip and EN-EL3e in the body I can get 200-300 shots in 8fps, and
- when I have 8x AA's in the grip and nothing in body I can get 1000 shots with 8fps?

Correct me if I misunderstood, but this seems very strange to me.

I would say I would agree with that... when you remove the battery from the body the camera is forced to use the AA batteries down to their last drop..so basically the camera will drain it, while if the EN-EL3e is inside the body the camera may tend to switch back and forth.

I personally have not tried using the camera without the EN-EL3e in there yet...

May 14, 2011 at 09:32 AM

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p.3 #16 · p.3 #16 · D700 /w MB-D10 not at 8fps

monk3y wrote:
I would say I would agree with that... when you remove the battery from the body the camera is forced to use the AA batteries down to their last drop..so basically the camera will drain it, while if the EN-EL3e is inside the body the camera may tend to switch back and forth.

I personally have not tried using the camera without the EN-EL3e in there yet...
Sure that seems logical, but the difference in number of shots sounds a bit unreal.
Nevertheless, I shall observe that at my trip, leaving tomorow, wish me luck!

May 14, 2011 at 09:37 AM

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p.3 #17 · p.3 #17 · D700 /w MB-D10 not at 8fps

As far as I remember, I think I get about 1000 shots with the combination of both AA and EN-EL3e... and still with about 2 bars left on the En-EL3e afterwards.

but lately I have been shooting 200-300 shots per outing only..so I haven't really tested it...

yeah good luck on your trip

May 14, 2011 at 09:52 AM

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p.3 #18 · p.3 #18 · D700 /w MB-D10 not at 8fps

monk3y wrote:
when you remove the battery from the body the camera is forced to use the AA batteries down to their last drop..so basically the camera will drain it, while if the EN-EL3e is inside the body the camera may tend to switch back and forth.

Correct.

With the proprietary Nikon batteries(EN-EL4, EN-EL3e), you get detailed charge info showing exactly what percent of charge is remaining. With AA batteries you only get info telling "Full" or... er "Not Full". When using AAs as your first power source everything is fine as long as your AA's are FULLY charged. Once they are no longer fully charged, your camera will automatically switch to the Nikon battery which has a well defined charge level remaining. And yes happens for me with 8 Eneloops around 200-300 shots with no flash or VR. There is still plenty of charge left in the AA's, but since the camera doesn't know exactly how much is left, it switches over to the Nikon battery. As I said previously, without the battery in the body, the D700 has nothing to switch to, and will suck every last mA out of the AA's and give me just over 1000 shots. While giving the option for 8fps to the end.

The point here is that AA's are fine and will give you the fast frame rate if that is what you want, but when using AA's, you should use ONLY AA's.

May 14, 2011 at 02:09 PM

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p.3 #19 · p.3 #19 · D700 /w MB-D10 not at 8fps

This is quite an old post, but I'm in this same boat.. I just switched over to Nikon from Canon, and picked up a D300 for the time being until I pickup a D700, and cannot seem to get my D300 to get up to 8fps, I've got 8xENeloop batteries in the grip, all Dlighting, etc etc settings are turned off, I'm in AF-C, and release priority, Ch shooting mode, and still can't seem to figure it out. Camera is set to use the battery grip before the En-El3e battery. I'm quite frustrated with this as I have 2 very important sporting events this week, and 8FPS will help out a great deal for me.

Apr 01, 2012 at 04:54 PM

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p.3 #20 · p.3 #20 · D700 /w MB-D10 not at 8fps

pull the battery out of the body. you may need better aa's try lithiums they work for me.

Apr 02, 2012 at 06:36 AM

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