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Review Date: Feb 27, 2006
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Price paid: $3,300.00
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Follow up 5D comparison to the new D200: The 5D beats the Nikon D200 hands down-at and above ISO 800. The D200 has a good shape convenient buttons/features and low weight-BUT.
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D200 image and noise quality is poor at ISO 800.
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The Canon continues it's dominance over Nikon in chip sensors. Just a few photos comparing the D200 @ 800 vs 5D @ 1600 showed much more noise/grain and a disturbing lack of picture data from the D200.
If anything the D200's noise is worse than the D70. In CS2 the D200's file just didn't have much "There" there. Forget ISO 1600/3200.
I returned the D200 and am selling all my modern Nikkors (not happy to see the wonderful 70-200 go either). I plan to buy a second 5D body when the prices come down.
If you do the math on actual sensor area (per Canon's own dimensions) it works out that a 1.5/1.6 crop chip is about 40% the area of a FF!
Canon was wise to keep the D30's chip at 8MP and not make the pixels smaller and noiser-even though they gave up advertising bragging rights.
I take candids and with Canons fast lenses and ISO 1600 I have no use for a flash. The pictures look much better than the eye sees it. Truly a miracle camera!
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tony A7
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Review Date: Feb 24, 2006
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Price paid: $2,969.00
| Rating: 9
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pixels, size, weight and most everything about it
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Mirrorlock up is still under the menu
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Feb 24, 2006
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jmraso
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Review Date: Feb 21, 2006
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Price paid: Not Indicated
| Rating: 9
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FF, resolution and low noise.
Quality pictures is the main positive aspect of this "toy".
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Price and no FEL function.
Flash syn. it is only 1/200 !!!
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Excellent wedding camera, no need to go for a 1 series yet.
Beautifull photos straight out of the camera with little processing.
My first real Pro DSRL.
Jaime
www.jmraso.com
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Feb 21, 2006
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eric_krumm
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Review Date: Feb 21, 2006
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Price paid: $2,970.00
| Rating: 10
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weight, size, handling, big lcd, image quality
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none - I've only had it one week though!
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Canon once again shows their prowess in ascertaining what the market wants; a full frame, high-resolution camera under $3500.
I have been waiting for this camera for a couple years. Shooting film since 2001, there is no way I'd sacrifice image quality for a sub-12MP camera and definitely not one that wasn't full frame.
I got the grip, RAWshooter Premium (as recommended here on FM) and have really enjoyed using this camera over the last week, including one portrait shoot for a local mag.
Now I’m all set until they do it again with an 18MP camera (hopefully with 48-bit color)!
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Feb 21, 2006
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Mullet
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Review Date: Feb 20, 2006
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| Rating: 10
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Size - Weight - Bright LCD - Full Frame - Full Frame - Full Frame - Fast - Addictive
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Addictive - 512 Compact Flash card have to be replace with 2GB cards
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This is what I wanted in a DSLR. I liked my old 10D very much and used it often. But I was going to go back to my EOS 3 and slides until the 5D came along.
The images are sharp with any of my lenses. I only have Canon lenses now. The camera responds predictably to setting changes. The Picture Styles feature is nice for B&W shots and landscapes (I'm not a portrait guy).
I have a very fast and powerful PC, and a very good laptop. If not, I think processing RAW images would be a chore.
I've got 2 2GB CF cards and 2 1GB CF cards. Even at 5D scale they are still the equal of a lot of rolls of Fuji. The buffer is big and the card access is fast. I have not over run it in burst mode, yet.
Some of the things folks have said about buttons and features would be nice. But for me, the full frame, speed, and the image quality more than make up for anything I read here.
A built-in flash would be welcomed, but the EOS 3 doesn't have one either.
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Feb 20, 2006
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Michael-M
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Review Date: Feb 8, 2006
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| Rating: 10
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finally Canon did it right.........full frame, fast precise AF, LCD that doesn't look like a P&S screen, excellent build and layout.
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yes, it's an addictive camera.
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i tried to convince myself that i did not need this camera, and that the 20D is all i'll ever want to shoot with. even at first getting it i tried to not like it, tried to find something wrong with it, even ran a hot pixel test to discredit it..........not a chance. i can't find one single fault with it. as a matter of fact, i thought for sure that i would miss the 1.6X crop factor of using my 20D (which i will keep for telephoto shooting and snaps out and about) but the reallity of full frame hits you with an "awe, ooh, wow" in such a way that you become quite addicted to the images this camera produces.
there is so much fun packed features built into this camera that i feel ashamed for not giving my 20D more attention, but to those of you thinking about buying the 5D, you will not be dissapointed in any way.
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Feb 8, 2006
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badplumbing
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Review Date: Feb 8, 2006
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| Rating: 9
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The dogs proverbials .....
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None really
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Sell everything you have and buy one.
Many press professionals are moving down to the 5D from the 1 series because it's lighter and yet produces great quality pictures. If you're not taking photographs in the desert, on top of mount Everest or in the middle of the Atlantic ocean in deepest winter or Manchester, England on an ordinary day, then this camera can cope with all your needs. In extreme conditions buy insurance as it is not weather sealed.
My only caution would be - if you don't have a collection of Canon lenses, think about the Nikon 200D as an alternative - it's cheaper and just as good, although the full frame Canon is more fun with wide angle lenses.
One thing I have found, is that that my 5D seems more prone to getting dust on the sensor than any other digital camera I use, but 'blowing it off' according to the instructions has proven easy, effective and on occasion, deeply satisfying :-).
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Feb 8, 2006
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incdigital
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Review Date: Jan 28, 2006
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Recommend? yes |
Price paid: $3,000.00
| Rating: 10
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Price , FF, Image Quality , Decent Buffer for Raw/Jpeg , ISO in viewfinder , High ISO Performance , Pleasant Shutter Noise vs. 20D "Clunk"
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Doesn't make me coffee in the morning...other than that...for the price im happy
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Jan 28, 2006
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WEST1972
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Review Date: Jan 25, 2006
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| Rating: 10
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finally full frame pro camera for affordable price!!! picture quallity, low noise, exellent camera for my line of work - I mostly do events and weddings.
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none, exept direct print button. weather sealing would be nice, but i can live without it, more FPS, eye control and 45 AF points. But this is still to come with EOS 3D ...
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I got one of the first copies of this exellent camera in my country in the middle of october 2005, shoot a lot of pro stuff with it and must say that i am very satisfied. The quallity of prints is exellent, AF works preety well, the only real problem is non full compatibility with my Metz pro flashguns, so that i am forced to get original Canon EX 580.
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Jan 25, 2006
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kuere
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Review Date: Jan 24, 2006
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Recommend? yes |
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| Rating: 10
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Resolution-sharpness-colors-good response- built quality
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Price in comparison with model 20 D
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I've changed from 20 D to 5 D - What a nice experience! All my experiences from film cameras like Leica M6 or Contax RTS are back to reality. This camera cries for good lenses. First pictures with EF 135/2.0 L or EF 85/1.8 are exceptional- sharp and breathtaking. Please take care using EF 17-40/4.0L lense- without crop factor this is really ultrawide. Anyway, I have made some very good shots with this combination. Adobe Photoshop CS2 helps for some corrections. For best result I will concentrate on prime lens only.
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Jan 24, 2006
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harryset
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Review Date: Jan 22, 2006
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Recommend? yes |
Price paid: $2,999.00
| Rating: 10
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Low noise, quiet shutter, resolution, full frame controls
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none
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If you have had a nagging feeling way down deep, since you switched from film to digital, that digital was lacking in several areas. . . the Canon 5D is the answer to those feelings.
It begins when you put the camera up to your eye and frame your first picture. Large, bright and clear.
When you push the "soft shutter", the feel and sound of the shutter slapping (very quiet) will remind you of your old film cameras. Very reassuring.
The LCD is bigger and easier for viewing.
I was equally as pleased when I took my first shots using the 580EX and 24-70L. I used up a 2gig card without a single exposure problem and no soft shots whatsoever.
This is the camera that I thought I was going to get when I switched from film to my 10D.
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Jan 22, 2006
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SoundHound
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Review Date: Jan 15, 2006
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Price paid: $3,200.00
| Rating: 10
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Very Low Noise, High Res, Wide Dynamic Range! Big viewfinder and display screen with RGB. Makes beautiful pictures!
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Dim data in viewfinder in strong light. Minor: Direct print options, etc would be better replaced with more custom setting memories. Nice to be able to name custom folders.
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After a 30 year layoff (with Nikon FTn and 10 Lenses) I waited until I could get a digital camera that would let me shoot like I was used to. I bought the D70 13 months ago and began low light photography of Flamenco Dancers in performance.
I was getting so/so images (@ 1600, F2 & 1/125 + lots of sharpening in photoshop) with the D70 and was considering the D20 for a little better noise performance when the 5D was announced. I couldn't wait for the usual internet discount and (gulped at the $3300) bought it at my local camera store.
After some time with the 5D I can't bear to pick-up the D70 or
look at the pictures I took with it. To use a film comparision
it's like I changed formats from 35mm to 6X7cm. The range and quality of fast lenses is tops to (I just bought my 9th lens-7 L's).
I am hoping to protect my investment in so many Nikkors with
the D200 when it comes available but I am suspicious of a
Nikon chip that has smaller pixels and no FF. Would be interested in comments ref D200 vs 5D.
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Jan 15, 2006
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Liquidpics
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Review Date: Jan 12, 2006
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Recommend? yes |
Price paid: $2,999.00
| Rating: 9
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A nice LARGE viewfinder- Full frame- Wonderfully responsive AF- Images that really POP- LCD is like looking through the window to your garden
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Wish it was built like the 1D series bodies- it would be perfect if it was.
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Just a few observations-
It has much better AF in regards to accuracy and speed compared to the 20D. It is on par with the 1D series. It feels sturdier/more rigid then the 10D/20D's bodies but unfortunately still covered in plastic. The only benefit I could see in this construction is it's lighter then the 1D bodies. A relief for wedding photog's. Lastly, I love the soft touch shutter release! Love it! My favorite out of all the cameras Canon has out. Highly recommend this baby!
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Jan 12, 2006
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dhphoto
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Review Date: Jan 6, 2006
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Full frame, big viewfinder, superb image quality (with good lenses), smallish, lightish, well made, fast in use, good ergonomics, big LCD
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Sill mirror lock up procedure, odd C mode issues, awkward fiddly socket covers
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This is my second review of the 5D after a few months of intense professional use. I spend so much of my time espousing the merits of this camera in the forums I thought I might as well just do it here.
This is a REALLY fine digital camera, when used carefully and exposed correctly the images are easily the equal of medium format and virtually up to the standards of the 1DsII. The 'banding' some describe is usually due to poor exposure and expecting miracles from 3200 ISO. Image quality is what the 5D is all about and it delivers. Focusing is fast and accurate and the big viewfinder makes manual focus easy when needed.
I have now sold my beloved 1-Series as this is much more my sort of camera. I can use it with one hand at the top of a ladder, I can see the menu because of the lovely big lcd, the images appear instantly - it makes my 20D look slow! I have never inadvertently changed a setting and the two-stage on/off switch is a sensible way of preventing this.
The quality of the images is, in my opinion distinctly superior to that of my 1DII, that is the sharpness and dynamic range are more or less the same but the 5D's image is much. much bigger. This equates to less noise, bigger enlargements and good scope for cropping. I am now able to leave my converted RAW files with no further processing needed. I am now able to use up to 400 ISO as if it were 100 without fear of noise.
Build quality is on a par with Canon's original professional manual focus FD 1 series (F1N etc) and perfectly good. This is a professional standard workhorse and exactly the camera Canon needed to show their huge superiority in this marketplace, it is not a consumer point-and-shoot and should not be described as such. It doesn't need nor should it have a pop-up flash!
In summary, this is a very nearly perfect camera. It is the first digital camera I have owned that I know I will keep, there is nothing much I would need that this can't do, up till now the market was evolving, now it is maturing. Canon has (sensibly) decided that full-frame matters, Nikon has other ideas, I believe Canon is right. They have a serious winner on their hands with the 5D.
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Jan 6, 2006
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jd1566
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Review Date: Jan 5, 2006
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Price paid: $3,300.00
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Great image quality
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Price, but it is coming down
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I have already reviewed this camera, so this is more of an update review. I have now shot in excess of 2500 images and overall I am very happy with the results.
Some banding issues are still there, especially when underexposed or in shadow areas. Also the Custom mode gotcha that looses your on-the-fly changes when the camera powers down is a real pain, but you can work around it if you're careful (or quick!).
One thing I have noticed with this camera compared to the 20D I used for a year is that in continuous shooting mode I no longer shoot off accidental extra frames. This is good, as with the 20D I really had to concentrate and pull my finger off the shutter button quicky to avoid duplicate images when I didn't want them.
Also this camera is a "slower pace" one, a tool that invites you to think about what you are shooting, rather than blazing away. For the sports photographer it aint.. for the artist in you it is excellent. Some compare the new D200 Nikon to this camera.. Full frame is for some and not for others.. For me it means seeing the whole image again. To set the record straight, the 5D is Canon's response to the Kodak DCS/C full frame camera that used to be the cheapest full frame 35mm DSLR.
Some other minor things such as no fill flash still annoy me, but the higher ISO capability means that available light photography is acceptable, and indeed desirable. Build quality is what it is.. not 1D series, but not plastic either. I hope in future incarnations the build quality for this 2-3K$ camera improves (the D200 from Nikon shows what is possible), but I expect to keep this model for some time to come, unlike the 10D and 20D before it that were eagerly sold to make way for the next best thing..
One word of caution. If you don't treat it as a precision optical instrument, this camera will show your inadeqacies as a photographer. Beware camera shake! Use a tripod if you can.. Don't just fire away whilly-nilly as you will find unacceptably soft images the result. As the resolution is excellent, any user error will show up mercilessly. My sensor after 2500 shots is a bit spotty, though not as dust-collecting as my previous 20D.
Overall I am enjoying photography again, and have forgotten about the tool, which mostly does as it's told, and only occasionally annoys me (C-mode is less than useless!). Now I feel I'm taking pictures again!
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Jan 5, 2006
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recordproducti
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Review Date: Jan 3, 2006
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Recommend? yes |
Price paid: Not Indicated
| Rating: 10
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Fabulous performer in pretty much every respect. Superb low light performance, superb dynamic range, excellent viewfinder, fast AF, the list goes on.
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Possibly the price but I think it's great value overall.
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My critical shooting conditions, mostly shoots in dim recording studios, demand good low light ability and the 5D has proved to be way better than anything else I've been able to try. OK, I am coming from a 10D and I am sure that 20D users will be used to some of the advances available here but now with full frame my lenses are right, for example my 50mm f/1.4 is now just wonderful giving the intended wider field of view and superb low light combination and my Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 is also superb.
I am so in love with the 5D. It produces such beautiful images.
Pretty much every positive reason for getting one of these has been listed below but for me the highlights include: Excellent low light performance, it's full frame, flexible range of ISO settings, great viewfinder, great LCD screen (though possible a fraction flattering?), it produces so many 'keepers' - the images are superb.
Any cons? None for me.
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