Manual Focus Nikon Glass
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CGrindahl
Registered: Dec 17, 2004
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Dan, I wouldn't be too worried about higher ISO settings with the D600. It performs amazingly well in low light. I don't doubt there are quite a few purists on this thread who shoot only Manual Mode and who don't rely on Auto ISO. I was so transfixed when I moved from Canon and discovered that capability that I've never quite gotten over my amazement. It has never disappointed me with my D700 so I figure there is no reason to give it up. Nikon and I are a team.

Samy, I shoot primarily spot metering as well, though with darker scenes I'll switch to center weighted when I think of it. These cameras really are amazing. They certainly are more than happy with these MF Nikkors. We are truly blessed.



rattymouse
Registered: Feb 04, 2006
Total Posts: 5010
Country: China

CGrindahl wrote:
leighton w wrote:
What's for lunch Mr. Grindahl?


Its going to be a Chinese chicken salad but at the moment I'm having a cup of French Market coffee, the New Orleans favorite with chicory in it. I've not bee drinking much coffee but had a hankering for it when I sat down at the computer. Awfully fine coffee...

So I see you're back to banker's hours Leighton... Barbara must be loading the truck for tomorrow's market...


I had chicory once in coffee and I recall liking it, but yet, I cannot remember at all what flavor it added to the coffee!



rattymouse
Registered: Feb 04, 2006
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saph wrote:









I suspect this one could make a great monochrome image.



the solitaire
Registered: Jun 22, 2013
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Country: Germany

CGrindahl wrote:
My belief is that if I'm going to invest in a fast lens I really want to take advantage of that speed. Yes, I'll stop down if necessary, but I'm more inclined to look for situations where I can do a bit of bokeh play as I did in this shot with the 55 f/1.2 S.C. AI'd wide open. I've posted it before but it makes my point.


One of the reasons I'm fond of the 55 is that is very seldom produces the more jagged bokeh I can get with the 50 f/1.2 AI-s. With that lens I'm aware I get critical sharpness at f/2 and smoother bokeh, so that is where I most often shoot with that lens. But the 55 lets me play when I want to. Jay's shot above with his 55 makes the point as well. I appreciate, of course, that not every copy of any given lens is equal, so perhaps your 55 gets in trouble wide open. But I would definitely give it a chance. Again, bokeh play isn't for everyone but Ray and I happen to be suckers for it...


That is a nice example. I'm all for using lenses as far open as possible as well. Trying to find the sweet spot first. The chess shot is great and shows some of the best qualities of this lens.

I found that this copy is plenty sharp wide open but I love good contrast. That can of course be added in PP but the shots I posted are SooC to show what this lens can do and at f1.4 it already shows excellent contrast.

For the mushrooms I played around with DoF until I found the result most pleasing to the eye. Some of the other stopped down shots were to compensate for me not nailing the focus exactly while my dog, Holly, moved around. She doesn't like sitting or standing still for a picture but keeps looking for more interesting things to do while I'm framing and focusing.

I certainly do intend to play this lens wide open for some candlelight and night shots soon. So far I think it's a very interesting lens.

I'm not sure what you mean with the 50mm's bokeh. I found that the bokeh of this 55mm can do some funny things. Haven't found out when it starts going weird but in general it's quite nice wide open. I made some 270 pictures yesterday. Will have to sort through them and crop out some examples of interesting stuff this lens can do.

It's an artists tool. A hat full of tricks that can produce many interesting effects. This could be a very versatile lens and even on a crop sensor camera I like the field of view.

Here is one example where the field curvature was used to lean in on the subject and get elements in focus in the foreground that would have been out of focus with the 55mm f3.5 micro Nikkor for instance which has a really low field curvature.



You could get the same result easier with a PC lens I guess but the fact that one of the quirks of this lens can be used for this kind of thing adds to the versatility of the lens.

Here are some examples wide open

Sharpness is there. I only added some contrast in PP. This seems to be the optimal working distance though. Things tend to get softer either closer in or wider away.



Subject distance increased a bit the lens gives a beautiful soft-focus like rendering
No PP on this one



This is where things start to look funny in an old fashioned kind of way. Reminds me of some of the old panoramic B/W movie scenes. Focus at infinity, wide open. No PP

I wouldn´t say this is a great shot, or well framed. The choice for infinity focus is more like a horrible mistake but the picture shows some of the creative options a lens like this one offers. I really find that an interesting aspect.



MDoc9523
Registered: Aug 13, 2006
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That's exactly correct Curtis. There is nothing short of some delicious Bokeh. Fast glass rules!
Here's the 85mm 1.4





rattymouse
Registered: Feb 04, 2006
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Country: China

Since bokeh is the mood of the thread now, here's my contribution, from the 50mm f/1.2 AIS lens, shot with Acros 100 film with my FM2.

A couple from the Shanghai Subway.















Stokesey
Registered: Apr 18, 2012
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Country: United Kingdom

Curtis - Nice study in DOF - great texture in the wood too !!

Robson - Those cycle-cross pix are superb - reminds me of a time long ago when I took part too .... oh those memories come flooding back - specially the quantity of beer imbibed !!

Samy - that toadstool looks a great place to rest and enjoy a good coffee

Rattymouse = I love the DOF you have experimented with there.

Ray - that 85mm f1.4 is such a great lens - I must get mine out again and try and emulate yours experiences !!


Steve



Stokesey
Registered: Apr 18, 2012
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Meantime I will expose some more of mine

using the 28mm f3.5 with a Heliopan Linear Pola on a Lee Filter holder

It just helped pick out the fragile suns rays the other day

ISO200 @1/800th

Second shot with ND grad 0.6 addition

Steve



Stokesey
Registered: Apr 18, 2012
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Country: United Kingdom

Something strange happened .....

I looked up ......

And there above the city centre was a Police Spotter Plane circling !!!!

I suppose it happens everywhere .... Just look up and there is the sky .... somewhere above !!!

55mm f1.2 ISO400 @f4 1/8000th

Steve



HCE HCE
Registered: Apr 15, 2012
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Stokesey wrote:
Something strange happened .....

I looked up ......

And there above the city centre was a Police Spotter Plane circling !!!!

I suppose it happens everywhere .... Just look up and there is the sky .... somewhere above !!!

55mm f1.2 ISO400 @f4 1/8000th

Steve


The explanation, lean of the buildings and sky color make it seem a bit Orwellian...
-Jay-



HCE HCE
Registered: Apr 15, 2012
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50mm f/1.2 wide open





Sometimes selective blur works but often I'd like to let my eyes wander around in a scene. Some images make me feel like my glasses have fogged up.
I guess it is just another arrow in the quiver.
-Jay-


CGrindahl
Registered: Dec 17, 2004
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I let my whole body wander around the scene Jay. That is one reason I don't use a tripod... for better or worse. I enjoy floating through space with my eye scanning for possibilities. It feels a bit like a dance when I'm in the mood. Clearly, this is not a great way to work as a professional, but then I'm the first to claim the title amateur when it comes to photography. It is all in fun.



CGrindahl
Registered: Dec 17, 2004
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Country: United States

rattymouse wrote:
Since bokeh is the mood of the thread now, here's my contribution, from the 50mm f/1.2 AIS lens, shot with Acros 100 film with my FM2.

A couple from the Shanghai Subway.









This is too sweet not to bring back. Yes, this is what playing with bokeh looks like... as Ray says, DELICIOUS! Well done Tom.


CGrindahl
Registered: Dec 17, 2004
Total Posts: 13595
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HCE HCE wrote:
Stokesey wrote:
Something strange happened .....

I looked up ......

And there above the city centre was a Police Spotter Plane circling !!!!

I suppose it happens everywhere .... Just look up and there is the sky .... somewhere above !!!

55mm f1.2 ISO400 @f4 1/8000th

Steve


The explanation, lean of the buildings and sky color make it seem a bit Orwellian...
-Jay-


It is also beautifully framed... and at 55mm. I would have expected a wider lens but what do I know...



CGrindahl
Registered: Dec 17, 2004
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Country: United States

Buddy, I agree that the 55 is a very versatile lens. No doubt that is one of the reasons it finds its way to my camera so often. I've used the 50 f/1.2 AI-s as a walk around lens when traveling, which frankly surprised me a bit since I've not historically been a big fan of that focal length. In fact, I'm much more likely to go 50 that 35. My 35 f/1.4 AI-s is a bit of an orphan since it seldom gets out to play. That is especially so now that I've been smitten with converted pre-AI lenses, including the 55 f/1.2 S.C. AI'd. I doubt I'll buy a pre-AI 35 f/1.4 both because it doesn't seem to attract my attention and because lose lenses when found converted and in excellent shape are very pricey.

Kit building is eternal in large measure because it is ever intriguing while on the hunt and satisfying once the hunt has come to an end. At the moment, I'm not doing ANY hunting... now I need to get out in the field with my existing kit...

Lovely set Buddy. Enjoy yourself.



the solitaire
Registered: Jun 22, 2013
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Country: Germany

Kit building is forever. I see that now

In m kit at the moment,

28mm f2.8 Ai
50mm f1.4 S.C
50mm f2 Ai
55mm f3.5 Ai
55mm f1.2 S.C
105mm f2.5 P.C
PN-11 extension ring
PK-13 extension ring
In the back an 80-200 f4 Ai-S
200-600 f9.5 non-Ai (still fits and works nicely on my D300. I´m not sure whether it was converted or is supposed to be like this)



In the front are the 3 latest additions to my set of MF lenses. From left to right:
55mm f1.2 S.C Nikkor Ai machined to fit
50mm f1.4 S.C Nikkor with Ai conversion kit
105 f2.5 P.C Nikkor with Ai conversion kit





The front element on the 50mm f1.4 S.C has quite a few minor scratches. It still is a nice performer though.

The 55 and 105 look pretty well rocked but the glass on both is like new and mechanically both work perfectly fine



Not only can those lenses produce really nice images, they also look great mounted on a camera



Even though I never really thought I needed a 50mm lens I ended up owning 4 lenses in this focal range.



From left to right:
50mm f1.4 S.C Nikkor
50mm f2.0 Ai Nikkor
55mm f3.5 Ai Nikkor
55mm f1.2 S.C Nikkor



Zichar
Registered: May 13, 2009
Total Posts: 3596
Country: Singapore

My friend suddenly dropped by with the components I ordered and I'm finally getting on with a new system... But I didn't get to back up nor figured out where I placed my discs. Ugh



saph
Registered: Jun 10, 2012
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Country: United States

Finally got around to putting the 500 F4 P to some real work after many months. Got to Conowingo Dam, which is on the Susquehanna River less than an hour north of Baltimore. Lots of birds congregate for the fish on the downstream side of the dam, including eagles, herons, cormorants and tons of vultures. Last year I went about third week of November, which is around the peak.

I used the 500 by itself for most of the time, but the last few minutes I added the TC-301 for 1000mm focal length. From my observation, any loss of quality is probably more than made up by the ability to see those faraway subjects very clearly through the viewfinder at 1000mm, which helps in focusing.

These images are crops, all at 1000mm. The first two are at the dam, which from google maps is about 1100-1200 feet away and is diagonally across the river from where the tripods and the graybeards line up. I am sure my beard will turn fully gray trying to get up to their skill level

Eagle and Heron in peaceful coexistence:






A few minutes later, the eagle had grabbed the heron's spot.






And this heron is on the rocks at Rowland Island, which is in the middle of the river, and about 500-550 feet distance.







Like Curtis says, it was indeed kind of fun to watch the heron and its blue beak color come into focus through 1000mm of glass

Will need to repeat this trip in November, when the birds, especially the eagles, are at their peak number. Of course at that time parking and tripod space is a bit more limited





MDoc9523
Registered: Aug 13, 2006
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Country: United States

Buddy I love to see lens porn and you have a great kit. No doubt that you have a case of NMFLAS! Great worK with the 50mm 1.2






Curtis I love the chess set photo. Bokeh at it's best!
Tom great work with the 50mm 1.2 and the subway shot is great!
Steve the sky photo with the clouds is perfect!
Jay you blew me away with your photo. Such colors and very nicely done! Please bring that lens when you come because I would love to try it out


MDoc9523
Registered: Aug 13, 2006
Total Posts: 5115
Country: United States

I had a few Patrons last night so I am staying close to home today
These photos were taken from my balcony using the 300mm 4.5 EDIF with a TC-14A attached in DX mode. 630mm The cattle egret was prowling for a meal by our little pond and looks like he made quite a catch







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