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MDoc9523
Registered: Aug 13, 2006
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I decided to do an unofficial comparison between the 300mm 4.5 EDIF against the 100-300mm 5.6 AIS. At 300mm with both lenses wide open I selected a subject at a far distance and also one close. Can you tell which one is which? Of course the 4.5 has a one stop advantage, while the 5.6 has zoom ability.





leighton w
Registered: Nov 12, 2010
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MDoc9523 wrote:
I decided to do an unofficial comparison between the 300mm 4.5 EDIF against the 100-300mm 5.6 AIS. At 300mm with both lenses wide open I selected a subject at a far distance and also one close. Can you tell which one is which? Of course the 4.5 has a one stop advantage, while the 5.6 has zoom ability.





My guess is that the 300mm is on the left.



pburke
Registered: Oct 08, 2010
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a.RodriguezPix wrote:
markhout wrote:
On a slightly different note (*), I recently bought a pinhole-Nikon-bodycap on eBay in an effort to surrender to my Nikon Acquisition Syndrome (NAS). (*): all flames gratefully accepted

i like this!noiw i need to get one of these asap!


take a drill and put a 2mm hole through the center of the K in NIKON of any lens cap you own, and you got one. doesn't need to be accurate - heck, the fuzzier the better.



jhinkey
Registered: Jan 08, 2010
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MDoc9523 wrote:
I decided to do an unofficial comparison between the 300mm 4.5 EDIF against the 100-300mm 5.6 AIS. At 300mm with both lenses wide open I selected a subject at a far distance and also one close. Can you tell which one is which? Of course the 4.5 has a one stop advantage, while the 5.6 has zoom ability.





Many times it's the off-center performance that is really quite different between lenses. How do they compare in edges and borders? Landscape-type guys (like me) care more about edges, borders, and corners than most other folks.

I would bet that the 100-300 is on the left due to the higher depth of field that seems to be there (assuming these were both shot wide open).



MDoc9523
Registered: Aug 13, 2006
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Thanks John here's a photo to compare the edges. Upper right corner. As it stated in description both are wide open.







rattymouse
Registered: Feb 04, 2006
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Some shots just after sunrise, still testing out my new 24mm f/2.0 lens.





















rattymouse
Registered: Feb 04, 2006
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Oosty wrote:
Took out the "old" 50 f2 H lens that I recently ai'd. IMO this lens has amazing quality in it's rendering and very smooth bokeh. Some examples from this afternoon.


Love the park bench in that pano shot!!



Randy Roy
Registered: Apr 17, 2003
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kwoodard wrote:
Randy Roy wrote:
I have a 300/4.5 K lens that is in great shape, but the focus ring is a little stiff - not terrible but stiffer than it should be, I'm sure from old grease. Is this something that I could fix myself, or should I not tempt fate and send it in for this? I've done some minor lens repairs before and I know that those helicoids can be tricky. Or is there anyone out here in the Nikon MF world that can do this?

Thanks, Randy


I have done a 28/3.5 and am in the process of working on a 100/2.8 E Series that sat in its box since new (all the grease dried out, have already lubed the inner one). The 28 was a piece of cake to re-lube the outer helicoid, but redoing the infinity focus stop was very tough (still not sure if I have it completely right). The 100/2.8 is a bear and is being stubborn. I haven't even been able to get to that side of the helicoid. There is a Nikon Lens Repair group on Yahoo. If you can find that group, check through their archives and see if they have a repair for that lens.


Thanks, I'll look into it. I just called APS and they want quite a bit more than I paid for the lens to do a CLA. Haven't tried KEH yet. I don't know if there is anyone local that does this kind of work. Like I said, the stiffness isn't terrible, just a bit more than I would like.



kwoodard
Registered: Aug 04, 2012
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I really cannot tell a difference between the two Ray, just little things here and there... I would gladly have either in my kit.



kwoodard
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rattymouse wrote:
Some shots just after sunrise, still testing out my new 24mm f/2.0 lens.









This shot is very cool. Feels like I am being sucked into it.


kwoodard
Registered: Aug 04, 2012
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CGrindahl wrote:
Okay Kevin... time for your bio. You've become a stalwart of this thread and we definitely need to get to know you a bit better. Adding a bio to your profile allows us to keep that information available for new folks who show up on the scene. Since we're neighbors... lets be friends...


OK, I had a break at work and wrote up my "short" bio... **snicker**



georgms
Registered: Jan 08, 2009
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Thanks for the feedback on the "bokeh-crime-shot" - I'm really glad this silly story was entertaining for the fellow MF-Nikkor-crew ;-)
I could produce nonsense-stuff like this for days and weeks, just not always in English and in a political correct fashion.



rattymouse
Registered: Feb 04, 2006
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kwoodard wrote:
rattymouse wrote:
Some shots just after sunrise, still testing out my new 24mm f/2.0 lens.





This shot is very cool. Feels like I am being sucked into it.


Thank you kindly. The 24mm f/2 lens has an interesting ability to focus very close. Most of the Nikon wides seem to have this ability which certainly adds an interesting way to use them.



CGrindahl
Registered: Dec 17, 2004
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mp356 wrote:
leighton w wrote:
Scott - That 105/2.8 would make a great alternative to the 2.5.


My thinking exactly. I like that I can get up close without tubes.

BTW, wasn't it enough that we posted our mug shot standing side by side at the market. Now Curtis wants a full bio!


Yes, there are SO MANY burdens associated with being part of this motley crew...

You've been hanging out with us for quite awhile Scott so I think it is safe to say you're one of the gang. Of course we want to know a bit more about you because the fact you're tall, dark and handsome...



CGrindahl
Registered: Dec 17, 2004
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kwoodard wrote:
CGrindahl wrote:
Okay Kevin... time for your bio. You've become a stalwart of this thread and we definitely need to get to know you a bit better. Adding a bio to your profile allows us to keep that information available for new folks who show up on the scene. Since we're neighbors... lets be friends...


Will get right on it. Hope to have it up later today.


Wonderful Kevin! There are so many stories, so many journeys through this human incarnation. Your love of photography, nurtured at your grandmother's side has stayed with your your entire life, coming together with a camera you'd saved years to own and a MF lens received as a gift. Then the serendipity of finding this thread and fully engaging in photography. Awesome. Thanks so much for sharing all of that. I'm so pleased you found us.



CGrindahl
Registered: Dec 17, 2004
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MDoc9523 wrote:
Georg your Police shot is very cool and I find it very humorous


Thanks for the bio Ray. If ever I get to Tampa I'll definitely show up at your karaoke club. We can hoist a few and sing duets, cameras with fast lenses at our sides... I'm so glad we met Ray. I really would love to go shooting with you again. Perhaps that will come to pass.



georgms
Registered: Jan 08, 2009
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Ratty, it's always nice to see real film-shots here. Do you still use Neopan 400?

Ray, I'm completely lost guessing which crops are from which lens. And that's a good thing in my opinion, because judging from the fabulous shots you've done with the 300/4.5 IF-ED in the past the zoom seems to be quite a performer.

Jose, thanks for sharing another wonderful view at the nightly sky over Brazil! This is really inspiring work, if weather and time co-operate I'll try something similar in the next days.

Mark from the US, I like he pinhole-shot a lot. Nice way to illustrate that MTF-curves and the beauty of an image are not necessarily close relatives ;-)

Philippe, great framing on the second garden-shot. I wonder if the bokeh-cop will show up after seeing the background-rendering on shot #1

Peter from Madison: great job with the razor-blade ;-) Honestly, this look really well-made. Love the pictured camera too, never really tried the F3.

Jared, the winter sky is really moody, well done!

Peter from Knysna, very nice work with the 50/2! I like especially the winterly pano (your winter seems to be more enjoyable than my last winter ;-).

Americo, congrats to your new 85/1.4! You have some wonderful tools in your hands, I hope you'll make them work well for you.

John, very nice sets from the beautiful South Dakota! Love the panos and the antlers.

Mark from Winterthur, the first wild-poppies-shot is very cool. The background and razor-thin DoF team up nicely for a very unusual flower-shot. The players-portrait with the 55 Micro is well done. I've seen much worse bokeh, btw...

Scott, love the colorful industrial-lights! The bokeh of the 105/2.8 Micro is really nice.

Chuong, very nice close-ups with the fastest 105!

Ray, great job with the 85/1.4 I like your way of thinking regarding the large aperture ;-)

Chin, the Succulent-image is another jewel out of your hands. Btw, I've noticed the "borrowed" phrase in your bio



CGrindahl
Registered: Dec 17, 2004
Total Posts: 16784
Country: United States

Randy Roy wrote:
kwoodard wrote:
Randy Roy wrote:
I have a 300/4.5 K lens that is in great shape, but the focus ring is a little stiff - not terrible but stiffer than it should be, I'm sure from old grease. Is this something that I could fix myself, or should I not tempt fate and send it in for this? I've done some minor lens repairs before and I know that those helicoids can be tricky. Or is there anyone out here in the Nikon MF world that can do this?

Thanks, Randy


I have done a 28/3.5 and am in the process of working on a 100/2.8 E Series that sat in its box since new (all the grease dried out, have already lubed the inner one). The 28 was a piece of cake to re-lube the outer helicoid, but redoing the infinity focus stop was very tough (still not sure if I have it completely right). The 100/2.8 is a bear and is being stubborn. I haven't even been able to get to that side of the helicoid. There is a Nikon Lens Repair group on Yahoo. If you can find that group, check through their archives and see if they have a repair for that lens.


Thanks, I'll look into it. I just called APS and they want quite a bit more than I paid for the lens to do a CLA. Haven't tried KEH yet. I don't know if there is anyone local that does this kind of work. Like I said, the stiffness isn't terrible, just a bit more than I would like.


I'll second Ray's suggestion to work the focusing ring. The focusing ring on the 55 f/1.2 S.C. AI'd I bought last year was quite stiff. I took it to my local camera shop and they suggested I work the lens. I've done so and now the lens is fine. It might be useful to try that before spending money on the lens. I recently bought an older version of the 300 f/4.5, an H lens that also has a stiff focusing ring. I'm doing the same with that lens. Time will tell.

Good luck.



MDoc9523
Registered: Aug 13, 2006
Total Posts: 5115
Country: United States

CGrindahl wrote:
MDoc9523 wrote:
Georg your Police shot is very cool and I find it very humorous


Thanks for the bio Ray. If ever I get to Tampa I'll definitely show up at your karaoke club. We can hoist a few and sing duets, cameras with fast lenses at our sides... I'm so glad we met Ray. I really would love to go shooting with you again. Perhaps that will come to pass.

It was a pleasure taking photos with you. I really hope you make it this way again. Perhaps you can bring the 135 F2 so you can talk me into buying another lens



CGrindahl
Registered: Dec 17, 2004
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Thanks for the bio Georg. I had no idea your age... you're a young man who loves old camera gear. I guess the fact you make no mention of family means you're still foot loose and fancy free. All good! Now, we just need that self portrait for our family album...



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