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zippy_monster
Registered: Jan 19, 2011
Total Posts: 158
Country: United States

CGrindahl wrote:

That's what manual mode is for. Modern DSLR cameras handle low light so well, that you can turn on Auto ISO, set the shutter speed where you find comfort, set aperture and let the camera solve the lighting problem. Between Auto ISO and the non-CPU register you're in good shape unless you really want to stop down. But these lenses tend to be sharp wide open so that's not a problem.


Ah, but auto ISO is a bit neutered with non-CPU lenses. Without a CPU you've got to set the minimum shutter speed manually, otherwise it will default to 1/50th. On a prosumer camera where you can switch settings banks, this isn't terribly awkward. On an entry-level camera, like the D600, this is more tedious because you have to use the SPAM knob to switch banks.

'Course you could always chip the lens for the best of both worlds.



rafaelcasd
Registered: Jan 07, 2011
Total Posts: 2486
Country: United States

zippy_monster wrote:
CGrindahl wrote:

That's what manual mode is for. Modern DSLR cameras handle low light so well, that you can turn on Auto ISO, set the shutter speed where you find comfort, set aperture and let the camera solve the lighting problem. Between Auto ISO and the non-CPU register you're in good shape unless you really want to stop down. But these lenses tend to be sharp wide open so that's not a problem.


Ah, but auto ISO is a bit neutered with non-CPU lenses. Without a CPU you've got to set the minimum shutter speed manually, otherwise it will default to 1/50th. On a prosumer camera where you can switch settings banks, this isn't terribly awkward. On an entry-level camera, like the D600, this is more tedious because you have to use the SPAM knob to switch banks.

'Course you could always chip the lens for the best of both worlds.


I still use my D3 and D800 as I used the f2, set ISO according to need (choose film), set the aperture according to desired depth of field and shutter speed, let the speed follow last. There is nothing else to adjust on a camera.



NightOwl Cat
Registered: Feb 19, 2007
Total Posts: 9316
Country: United States

Wow, there have been a ton of wonderful shots here, and they just keep coming. Few more from Sunday's show, including some of the acrobatic planes. I can't believe I was able to manually focus so well



saph
Registered: Jun 10, 2012
Total Posts: 3699
Country: United States

Leighton, perfect family pic with the perfect backdrop! And I really look forward to your market shots; delicious looking peppers and no wonder the customer looks so happy.

Ronny, that yellow flower against the black background is excellent!

Ray, very pleasant place for a visit, nice images of Charleston.

Luc, love the Silver Arrow images, cool subject.

Eric, is that the 55 micro? I really like how the lens rendered the web threads.

Rafael, nice tractor shots with the 5.8cm. And cool capture of Leighton when he used to work.
(of course j/k Leighton )

Laura, nice focus indeed in all the air show action images. The 300 2.8 is a hefty lens to carry to an air show, did you take a monopod to rest it on?

Samy



leighton w
Registered: Nov 12, 2010
Total Posts: 12621
Country: United States

Thank you Georg and Jeff!

Rafael - I rather like the first B&W image of the steam tractor, you captured it well. Ever since I saw some images from you around a month ago with the 5.8, I've been very interested in it. You're right about the 3d rendering, which is the attractiveness of it. But I could have sworn it was the f2 version and not the 1.4 seen here, am I right? I believe the images I am referring to were of an old PU truck.

Georg - That's a wonderful portrait of the "charburner", even with the "flaws".

Ron - The shot of her laying eggs is like a National Geographic moment. Way to get right in the action! And what were the chances you'd be there at that moment?

Samy - Very good capture of the "Street Performer"!

Laura - The whole set is very nice, but I like the first one the best.



saph
Registered: Jun 10, 2012
Total Posts: 3699
Country: United States

Rooftop greenery in Washington DC. 2.8cm f3.5:






And a crop of the weekend street festival in DC, this time a 35 1.4N image for a somewhat closer look:






NightOwl Cat
Registered: Feb 19, 2007
Total Posts: 9316
Country: United States

Samy, no, no monopod, just me holding the lens.

Thanks Leighton. I'm debating whether or not to join the museum that has that replica, if you become an Honorary or Lifetime member, you get a ride on it.



leighton w
Registered: Nov 12, 2010
Total Posts: 12621
Country: United States

saph wrote:
Rooftop greenery in Washington DC. 2.8cm f3.5:







I wonder if I could get my tractor up there?


NightOwl Cat
Registered: Feb 19, 2007
Total Posts: 9316
Country: United States

Georg, this is a wonderful shot!

georgms wrote:
Just to add a bit to the wide variety of this wonderful thread:
Here's a staged portrait, nothing special, with many flaws to be precise (ugly shadow on the grass, caused by a not very carefully set-up speed-light, the sky is overexposed at the upper right side and the charcoal isn't clearly recognizable as such...).

A very friendly charburner (charcoal maker) taken 2009 with a D700 and a 28/2 (ISO100, 1/250sec, f/8, one or two remote SB-800's).
We both had tears in our eyes - the gases produced by this "oven" are really breathtaking ;-)



leighton w
Registered: Nov 12, 2010
Total Posts: 12621
Country: United States

NightOwl Cat wrote:

Thanks Leighton. I'm debating whether or not to join the museum that has that replica, if you become an Honorary or Lifetime member, you get a ride on it.


That may be worth the cost of joining.



NightOwl Cat
Registered: Feb 19, 2007
Total Posts: 9316
Country: United States

Just look at all that virgin garden space waiting to be put to use! Leighton, I'm sure it could be craned up

leighton w wrote:
saph wrote:
Rooftop greenery in Washington DC. 2.8cm f3.5:







I wonder if I could get my tractor up there?


leighton w
Registered: Nov 12, 2010
Total Posts: 12621
Country: United States

I can't believe the DOF sometimes of the 50/1.2. This was shot at f2, and while the gate itself is out of focus the lock is in focus. There's probably no more than a half inch difference between them. Should of closed down a bit more.


50/1.2 AIS by Leighton W, on Flickr



stedge
Registered: Jul 14, 2006
Total Posts: 920
Country: United States

Samy,

Thanks for your kind words!

The spider was done with the 55/3.5, handheld as the little guy was swinging in the breeze. Web was in the netting we have around the garden, and I was snapping as it moved in and out of focus.





asiostygius
Registered: Nov 29, 2011
Total Posts: 3289
Country: Brazil

WOW, 15 pages since my last visit!

Thanks Leighton, Peter B, Ronny, Ray, Chin, Samy and Jeff for the kind comments.
So many great images and conversations to comment all. Just some to remember:

Ronny, your flower and bug sets are amazing; the "bug porn" is fantastic;

Rafael, what a beauty 300/4.5 H you have; loved your fantastic T-Ford sets with the 8/2.8;

Jeff, loved the "film noir" images;

Samy, thanks for the 135mm's "bokeh battle"; surprisingly the 135/3.5 Q seems to be the winner, at least in your shooting conditions/setup;

Leighton, I liked both B&W and colour versions of your cloud + landscape scenario;

James, thanks for the 35mm's "bokeh battle" wide open; the 35/2 is no slouch, on the contrary;

Scott, beautiful "Land of Leighton" set;

Curtis, congrats on your new old 300/4.5 H; looking forward to your first images and, who knows , a comparison with the 300/4.5 EDIF;

Georg, loved the seagull set and the behavioural description of those birds

Bert, gorgeous water reflections of "Nontucket";

Francesco, welcome, and what an awesome debut! Did you use tubes with the 135/2?

Chuong, gorgeous images, both with 300/4.5 + tube and micro 105/2.8+TC16A;

Luc, your "silver arrows" set is fantastic, and the B&W images are a perfect choice for those vintage cars. Were these very cars used by the legendary Fangio?

Eric, loved the spider images, specially the second one.



rafaelcasd
Registered: Jan 07, 2011
Total Posts: 2486
Country: United States

leighton w wrote:
Thank you Georg and Jeff!

Rafael - I rather like the first B&W image of the steam tractor, you captured it well. Ever since I saw some images from you around a month ago with the 5.8, I've been very interested in it. You're right about the 3d rendering, which is the attractiveness of it. But I could have sworn it was the f2 version and not the 1.4 seen here, am I right? I believe the images I am referring to were of an old PU truck.



You remember well Leighton, the 5cm 2,0s at 2.0 does the best job I have seen so far in separating the subject plane from the background in a 3d like way, because the subjec plane t is well in focus and the background is just out of focus in a smooth way. The 5.8cm so far seems best at giving an effect of the center very sharp at 1.4 with the rest fading away, but the in focus area is smaller.



asiostygius
Registered: Nov 29, 2011
Total Posts: 3289
Country: Brazil

Rafael, your last moon image with the "2240mm" lens is simply outstanding, not only by the image itself - crisp and sharp, but also by the technical difficulty - 3 TCs! Truly a feat!!

I have used a similar to yours procedure when shooting moon, but I left the mirror up for more than 10 sec, sometimes even more than 15sec to avoid any residual vibration.

I have some "old" moon images with the 800mm + TCs, at least one or two already posted here, anyway, you estimulate me to post them again and share some TC combos:


With the TC16A ( not so bad in the 800/5.6 as you have found for the 400/3.5):


_DTR2508 800mm+TC16A = 1280mm by labecoaves, on Flickr

D300 + 800mm f/5.6 ais EDIF + TC 16A = 1280mm f/9 @ f11 [x 1.5 crop = 1920mm].
Tripod + cable release. I think this is not bad for an overlooked and old TC.


One of the first test shots with the modified (metal tab removed) TC20EIII + 800/5.6 (1600mm x 1.5 DX= 2400mm!):


Moon 800mm f/5.6+TC20EIII = 1600mm f/11 by labecoaves, on Flickr

D300, ISO 200, 1/50s at f/16(=8), tripod, MLU during 20 sec, cable release.
Spot metering, -0.33 EV. Just a small pass of smart sharpen was applied, amount 50, 0.2 px.



And one of the craziest TC combos I made until today:


Moon shot with a 1904mm telephoto by labecoaves, on Flickr

D3 + TC17EII + TC14A + Nikkor 800mm f/5.6 ais EDIF = 1904mm f/13.
We need a sturdy tripod + Mirror lock up + 10 s to wait any vibration finnish.
Exposure was 1/50s at f/22. Some levels adjustments; ~30% cropped, resized to internet and a small pass of smart sharpen 50 x 0.2 px.
For my surprise the image appears more than usable.



asiostygius
Registered: Nov 29, 2011
Total Posts: 3289
Country: Brazil

Continuing the "fruit-eating birds" series:


Blue Dacnis male eating fruits of Callicarpa reevesii by labecoaves, on Flickr

Blue Dacnis male eating fruits of Callicarpa reevesii
D7000 + Nikkor 400mm f/5.6 K ED ai'd + monopod, ISO 1600, f/5.6 at 1/320s. ~50% cropped.

Although the 400/5.6 EDIF is easier to focus, wide open the old ED non IF version is sharper and has a better control of CA. As the weather was overcast all these last days I had to use high ISOs and almost all shots were wide open.



Kry27
Registered: Oct 15, 2012
Total Posts: 172
Country: Switzerland

... in the Aletsch region:


Nikon D3 - Nikon 16mm 1:3.5 fish eye lens
16mm, 1:16, 1/250, ISO 200, A, Matrix -1/2




Nikon D3 - Nikon 16mm 1:3.5 fish eye lens
16mm, 1:16, 1/350, ISO 200, A, Matrix -1/2


And a violated B&W conversion:


Nikon D3 - Nikon 35mm 1:2.0 MF lens
35mm, 1:16, 1/350, ISO 200, A, Matrix -1/2


Kry27
Registered: Oct 15, 2012
Total Posts: 172
Country: Switzerland

Then, the 35mm can do flowers - it focuses kinda close:


Nikon D3 - Nikon 35mm 1:2.0 MF lens
35mm, 1:16, 1/125, ISO 200, A, Matrix -1/2




Nikon D3 - Nikon 35mm 1:2.0 MF lens
35mm, 1:22, 1/60, ISO 200, A, Matrix -1/2




Nikon D3 - Nikon 35mm 1:2.0 MF lens
35mm, 1:11, 1/350, ISO 200, A, Matrix -1/2


CGrindahl
Registered: Dec 17, 2004
Total Posts: 16784
Country: United States

rafaelcasd wrote:
zippy_monster wrote:
CGrindahl wrote:

That's what manual mode is for. Modern DSLR cameras handle low light so well, that you can turn on Auto ISO, set the shutter speed where you find comfort, set aperture and let the camera solve the lighting problem. Between Auto ISO and the non-CPU register you're in good shape unless you really want to stop down. But these lenses tend to be sharp wide open so that's not a problem.


Ah, but auto ISO is a bit neutered with non-CPU lenses. Without a CPU you've got to set the minimum shutter speed manually, otherwise it will default to 1/50th. On a prosumer camera where you can switch settings banks, this isn't terribly awkward. On an entry-level camera, like the D600, this is more tedious because you have to use the SPAM knob to switch banks.

'Course you could always chip the lens for the best of both worlds.


I still use my D3 and D800 as I used the f2, set ISO according to need (choose film), set the aperture according to desired depth of field and shutter speed, let the speed follow last. There is nothing else to adjust on a camera.


Of course, with older DSLR cameras and with those typically that don't have a focusing motor which are Nikon's least expensive cameras there isn't a non-CPU register and the photographer is obliged to set ISO as well as shutter speed and aperture. And as Rafael notes, even those shooting with cameras that have the register have the freedom to make the selection themselves. But shooting with tubes does make that decision a bit trickier. Yes, you can look at the LCD to check exposure but if one has the register there is practically no price paid for using it. The one tricky part is if you're using spot metering because it will work with MF lenses ONLY when using the center focusing point.

I wouldn't dream of buying a camera that doesn't have a non-CPU register. I want my camera to meter for me.



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