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leighton w
Registered: Nov 12, 2010
Total Posts: 12616
Country: United States

huddy wrote:
Just finished the school year up. It's nice to have a few minutes to breathe! I'll probably be shooting my Nikons a lot more now as the mirror in my P67 flew off of its assembly while shooting a few days ago.

I suppose I should play the role of the devil. Here are some lovely lenses at nice prices:

28/2.8 AI-S
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1217827

35/2 AI-S (really good price for a clean copy)
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1217078/0?keyword=35,AI-S#11592352

I also need to get some shots to post up to. It's good to see all of the new faces around, and so many great shots in the last several pages!


Nice to see you Alan, don't be a stranger.



raboof
Registered: Mar 04, 2011
Total Posts: 2094
Country: United States

Now I want to get myself a second 28mm, Alan.



kwoodard
Registered: Aug 04, 2012
Total Posts: 4676
Country: United States

leighton w wrote:
Curtis - Thanks so much for this. It confirms my worst fear! If I'm to buy a 135mm one day it'll have to be the f2, although the Q.C. to my eye, looks like it took second place. It's amazing how close they all are.

I wonder how the Series E 135/2.8 would fit into this grouping? I would feel safe betting that it is similar to the Q.C. I think they are the same design. I am still really thinking of going all Series E lenses (to be different) with a smattering of AI or AI'd older lenses in the mix.



CGrindahl
Registered: Dec 17, 2004
Total Posts: 16784
Country: United States

A bit of bokeh play for Leighton with the newly arrived 135 f/2.8 K AI'd, all shot wide open.





And rather that prolong the agony... a few more...


At minimum focusing distance.


This lens is no slouch when it comes to either sharpness wide open or bokeh created... for 1/4th the price of a 135 f/2 AI-s...



leighton w
Registered: Nov 12, 2010
Total Posts: 12616
Country: United States

Beautiful examples Curtis, you'd be hard pressed to tell which 135 took these. Hmmm... Now, do the same thing with the 50-135mm at 135 wide open.



CGrindahl
Registered: Dec 17, 2004
Total Posts: 16784
Country: United States

leighton w wrote:
Beautiful examples Curtis, you'd be hard pressed to tell which 135 took these. Hmmm... Now, do the same thing with the 50-135mm at 135 wide open.


At your command... that is one of the nice things about having so many lenses in my kit... I recommend it to my friends...

First the K, then the zoom...



Not too shabby... but then you and I have always been big fans of the 50-135 f/3.5 AI-s.



leighton w
Registered: Nov 12, 2010
Total Posts: 12616
Country: United States

Hey thanks Curtis! You're right, not too shabby, not too shabby at all! I knew I loved this lens for a reason.



CGrindahl
Registered: Dec 17, 2004
Total Posts: 16784
Country: United States

You don't need no stinking prime lens...



kwoodard
Registered: Aug 04, 2012
Total Posts: 4676
Country: United States

CGrindahl wrote:
leighton w wrote:
Beautiful examples Curtis, you'd be hard pressed to tell which 135 took these. Hmmm... Now, do the same thing with the 50-135mm at 135 wide open.


At your command... that is one of the nice things about having so many lenses in my kit... I recommend it to my friends...

First the K, then the zoom...



Not too shabby... but then you and I have always been big fans of the 50-135 f/3.5 AI-s.


Wow, I can hardly tell a difference.



CGrindahl
Registered: Dec 17, 2004
Total Posts: 16784
Country: United States

kwoodard wrote:
leighton w wrote:
Curtis - Thanks so much for this. It confirms my worst fear! If I'm to buy a 135mm one day it'll have to be the f2, although the Q.C. to my eye, looks like it took second place. It's amazing how close they all are.

I wonder how the Series E 135/2.8 would fit into this grouping? I would feel safe betting that it is similar to the Q.C. I think they are the same design. I am still really thinking of going all Series E lenses (to be different) with a smattering of AI or AI'd older lenses in the mix.


There is no doubt that value for money the Series E lenses are worth considering. Of course, the price differential between Series E 135mm and Nikkor lenses is negligible. A cursory check on E-Bay shows most Series E lenses at this length are MORE expensive than either the Q.C. or K lenses I bought. Frankly, given the choice between a consumer grade Series E lens and a professional grade Nikkor is not a choice at all, at least for me. The same can be said for most lenses, in part because there is so little interest in these MF lenses. I bought a 50 f/1.8 AI-s for $46. I couldn't buy a Series E for less than that. I paid $79 for a 75-150 Series E and $95 for the 50-135 Nikkor lens and $76 for a 80-200 f/4.5 AI that originally sold for $700. I sold the Series E lens because I much preferred shooting with the more substantial lenses.

If you can pick up Series E lenses at a great price they're not a bad place to begin building a kit, especially on a tight budget. But you can also consider buying pre-AI lenses and converting them yourself. There are some very cheap lenses out there waiting for some enterprising person with a file to get to work... The important thing is to have MF lenses you can mount on your camera and take into the field. We love the lenses because we shoot with them. You do that very well Kevin.



leighton w
Registered: Nov 12, 2010
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Country: United States

leighton w wrote:
Beautiful examples Curtis, you'd be hard pressed to tell which 135 took these. Hmmm... Now, do the same thing with the 50-135mm at 135 wide open.

CGrindahl wrote:
At your command... that is one of the nice things about having so many lenses in my kit... I recommend it to my friends...


Not too shabby... but then you and I have always been big fans of the 50-135 f/3.5 AI-s.

kwoodard wrote:
Wow, I can hardly tell a difference.


You KNOW you need one.



oregonboy1969
Registered: Jun 05, 2013
Total Posts: 10
Country: United States

Yea baby, the 105 f4 micro showed up today and I am LOVING it so far, coupled with my pn-11 it is awesome. So now I have four MF lenses and I am trying to get a 600 f5.6 if budget allows, AFS be darned !



georgms
Registered: Jan 08, 2009
Total Posts: 4045
Country: Germany

oregonboy1969 wrote:
Yea baby, the 105 f4 micro showed up today and I am LOVING it so far, coupled with my pn-11 it is awesome. So now I have four MF lenses and I am trying to get a 600 f5.6 if budget allows, AFS be darned !


Congrats, Wade! The 105/4 Micro is for sure an overlooked and underrated lens. I love my copy, it's a great performer. Hope you'll find a 600/5.6 soon!



deang001
Registered: Apr 23, 2011
Total Posts: 1793
Country: China

CGrindahl wrote:
In my responsibility as chief instigator of Nikon Manual Focus Acquisition Syndrome, I feel obliged to post this so that Leighton and Chin can find the inspiration to spend more money...

The 135 f/2.8 K AI'd arrived last Friday from Japan and I picked it up this morning shortly after the post office opened. First, I'd observe that the seller did the best job of packaging I've ever seen. Although I didn't receive the package until today, it arrived only five days after shipment. Nothing was glued to the box, but rather all the papers were enclosed in plastic and then bound to the box by the filament much like Saran Wrap. The box was closed with perfectly applied tape the same color as the box. I'll be able to reuse the box without having to tear off glued labels. Pretty sweet. But let's get serious here...

Here are the four 135mm lenses now in my kit... whether that number will be reduced remains an open question since all four of these lenses is beautiful... This was shot with the 55 f/1.2 S.C. AI'd... (congratulations Chuong and good luck finding that conversion kit.)

http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-

135 f/2 AI-s, 135 f/2.8 AI, 135 f/2.8 K AI'd, 135 f/2.8 Q.C. AI'd

The first thing I did when I got home was head outside to take a few photos with the lenses, hopefully satisfying Leighton's wishes. Everyone knows that I do a pretty mediocre job with such comparisons because I do them hand held. So everything is approximate. (We'll have to rely on Jose and John for serious lens comparisons...) I stood at the same location... not even moving my feet... I cropped, downsized and added labels. I did nothing else to the images. All were shot wide open. I added weight, length and diameter at the bottom of the page to help with the comparison.

As one would expect, the 135 f/2 AI-s obliterates the background, but the other three lenses acquit themselves quite well. More will be revealed...


Very interesting comparison, especially when the 50-135 is thrown in there. Not exactly an easy back ground to get rid of either

The 50-135 is a bit of a gem ... only giving up 1/2 a stop with the convenience of a zoom.

I'd still go for the f/2



deang001
Registered: Apr 23, 2011
Total Posts: 1793
Country: China

Ronny _Olsson wrote:
Thanks guys

Great shot Dean, Leighton ,Mark, Samy, John,Georg and Peter in Wi



You make me want to throw away my extension tubes

Your work is amazing, Ronny !!



georgms
Registered: Jan 08, 2009
Total Posts: 4045
Country: Germany

Curtis, thanks for sharing the results of your 135mm-Nikkor comparison! I'm really surprised how well the Zoom-Nikkor did, simply amazing.
As much as I'd love to play with a really old 135/2.8 (Q or QC), I think I'll stick with the 135/2 Ais and the neat 135/3.5 Ai for now ;-)
Info for Leighton: maybe it's just a personal thing, but the fast medium-telephotos (105/1.8, 135/2, 180/2.8ED) feel somehow smoother in their focusing mechanism.
I prefer their handling over the 105/2.5's or the IF-equipped 300/4.5 IF-ED as example. So I'm sure you would like the 135/2 ;-)



kwoodard
Registered: Aug 04, 2012
Total Posts: 4676
Country: United States

leighton w wrote:
leighton w wrote:
Beautiful examples Curtis, you'd be hard pressed to tell which 135 took these. Hmmm... Now, do the same thing with the 50-135mm at 135 wide open.

CGrindahl wrote:
At your command... that is one of the nice things about having so many lenses in my kit... I recommend it to my friends...


Not too shabby... but then you and I have always been big fans of the 50-135 f/3.5 AI-s.

kwoodard wrote:
Wow, I can hardly tell a difference.


You KNOW you need one.


I would love one. If I went the other direction in my kit building idea, I would be looking at the 50-135, the 80-200/4.5 (have already) and the 28-50/3.5. I would probably keep a fast 50 like a 1.4 in there too. I just have no money right now for new lenses. I need to work with what I have and fix the ones I have in the repair bin.



georgms
Registered: Jan 08, 2009
Total Posts: 4045
Country: Germany

Alan, nice to hear/read from you! Sorry about your P67, hope you'll get it fixed (or a new used one) soon. The mighty Pentax is one camera I'd love to try sometimes...

Philippe, the "street-seller" is a truly remarkable shot, your (pictorial) signature is unique for sure.

Ronny, love the "dancing" dragonflies! Your style is distinctive, love it!

Mark, thanks for your comment on the Heinkel-Mauer. It's a shame that so much of the brainpower of brilliant engineers was used to create machines with just one purpose: to take the life of others.
It's hard for me to know that Guernica and Coventry (to name just two examples) were destroyed with bombers built in my hometown.

Leighton, looking at your last set from the market (and "Lady Justice") I wholeheartedly recommend the use of the 180mm next week too

Rafael, congrats! I hope the description is accurate.

John, your second set from the glass-show is beautiful too. Personal fav is shot #1, just like in your great "Puget Sound"-Images I prefer the mono- or bicolored shots.

Jose, thanks for your words on the action-shots!

Ben, I hope your 135APO will show up soon - I'm eagerly waiting to see your work with it! Thanks for your kind words on the "Flyin' German".



CGrindahl
Registered: Dec 17, 2004
Total Posts: 16784
Country: United States

New/old lens, flowers in bloom... what to do...

Three shots taken with the 135 f/2.8 K AI'd wide open... ignore any information to the contrary... I forgot to change the non-CPU in a rush to get out the door, so two of these identify the lens as a 50 f/3.5... its all Leighton's fault...




This is a beautiful lens Chin... but I may be willing to sell it, but only to a friend...



Zichar
Registered: May 13, 2009
Total Posts: 3758
Country: Singapore

Thanks for the comparison photos, I personally find it very difficult to tell them apart
I must say I am leaning towards the AIS simply because of its weight and dimensions
A light pack is foremost in my mind - these shoulders ache too much with a full pack
I do note on photosynthesis that there are two versions of the K
One lighter than the other (and being very similar to the AI)
Is that the version you have?



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