Manual Focus Nikon Glass
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MDoc9523
Registered: Aug 13, 2006
Total Posts: 4594
Country: United States

Jose the creator shots are awsome but the pano takes the prize!
Mark beautiful vista on that first shot.
Ray what great timing on your deer photo. Great capture, sharp and wonderfully framed!






Chuong that's a terrific shot of your daughter.
Curtis the post work on the barb wire is just plain GOOD!


jhinkey
Registered: Jan 08, 2010
Total Posts: 5218
Country: United States

CGrindahl wrote:
I step away for a day and a half and suddenly we're talking about Voigtlander glass?

The natives must be restless... When you run out of Nikkors to buy, I guess you have to expand your horizons. Or in John's case, it is looking for the perfect kit that will fit in his backpack when he's scaling the peaks of Washington state. Clearly, Mihai has the problems with owning too many Nikkors... you can always send me the NOCT my friend... Lighten your load...



I know I know - us kids tend to get into trouble while adult supervision is not around - no more talk about such heretical things . . . .

Still hunting a 500/4 P - KEH has one right now for a decent price, but taxes are due next week

John



georgms
Registered: Jan 08, 2009
Total Posts: 3043
Country: Germany

MDoc9523 wrote:
We don't have much graffiti in our little town, so when I saw this I had to take a photo.
D600 35mm 1.4 F/8 1/160




Ray, thanks for your kind words on the V1-shots. With a fast lens wide open and at close range the little camera can indeed deliver some shallow-DoF-images. Have yet to try the 35/1.4 on it...
You can be really happy that Graffiti is rare in your town - it's a major pain over here. Some cities seem to have kinda "artistic" sprayers in their community, this is unfortunately not true for my hometown.

Here's one of my very first stitching-tests with the PC 85/2.8 D - 3 vertical shots, shifted to the left, in neutral position and shifted to the right side, taken last year.

"da spellin' is right" - D3s + PC 85/2.8 D - 3 vertical shots stitched



kwoodard
Registered: Aug 04, 2012
Total Posts: 2390
Country: United States

I came up with a spreadsheet (Excel) that can help you figure out Minimum Focus Distance (not exact, but will give you a ball park) while using tubes as well as magnification ratio's for stacked lenses. If anyone is interested in it, PM me your email and I can send it to you.

I am trying to get this worked out so I can make a web page out of it. The math is right, but with lens variation in MFD, its not exact.



Mishu01
Registered: Nov 20, 2009
Total Posts: 2324
Country: Romania

jhinkey wrote:
Mishu01 wrote:

You're driving me crazy John!

Our large photo-dealer from Bucharest still have at least a new copy of this lens... but is listed at a 'prohibitive' cost of about $715. I also have the possibility to buy it used in LN condition for about $510 but I'm hesitating... already owning several 85s and 105s... But this lens is very tempting and has a very solid reputation, including here Lloyd Chambers. If I'm right Ben also own (and praise) this lens. I'm a big fan of compact gear so I may consider very seriously to spend these $500... even my rational part of the brain says NO!


What I really like about this lens is it's close focusing capability - 0.5 meters, as opposed to the 105/2.5's 1 m. For close-up portraits this makes a huge difference. Also, it's very compact, which is huge for me when dragging my lenses around. It is a stop slower though than the f/2.5 . . .

Plus, if you buy it and don't like it you'll be able to resell it at very little loss . . .

John


I see... I'm not so much for the close focus capability but the very compact form is a big plus for me. Excluding the events I shoot indoor when I take my f/1.4 - f/1.2 arsenal of primes for anything else, special on travel I tend to focus on compact lenses and D600.

CGrindahl wrote:
Clearly, Mihai has the problems with owning too many Nikkors... you can always send me the NOCT my friend... Lighten your load...


I have no any gear list or inventory but in the optimistic estimation the total number of MF and AF Nikkors + Zeiss + Sigma + Tamron + CV (no any Tokina yet) from my shelves may be be equal with the number of your MF Nikkors Curtis! So there is space to grow About NOCT: Nice try my friend!

Having said that I wanna congratulate you for the great job done with Nikki! I was no interfering in the conversation for a time but I am a very careful reader as always. I am stunned by the pictures that you, Ray, Leighton, John, Scott, George, Mark, Reagan, Chin, Peter, Jose, Dean, Rafael, Chuong, Ben, Kenny, Phillipe (and many others I can not list right now) are posting on this unique thread. I wish I can contribute more but for now I have to be patient and focus on some important issues like a soon coming hip replacement, my son graduation, etc... Life was hard to me last six months but I hope is just a temporary conjuncture and I look forward for more sunny days

Keep the good work going please and tell Monty he is missed and so is Rinnie!



georgms
Registered: Jan 08, 2009
Total Posts: 3043
Country: Germany

Mihai, best of luck for your surgery and lotsa sunny days when you're done with it! I've missed your posts.



CGrindahl
Registered: Dec 17, 2004
Total Posts: 11927
Country: United States

georgms wrote:
CGrindahl wrote:
Dean, I'm happy you've been enjoying my work with Silver Efex Pro 2. Initially, I worked with the series of presets listed at the left. Then I began playing a bit with the sliders on the right to see how each affected the preset. I also checked how filters affected the appearance of the image. Then I began working with the original conversion doing essentially the same thing, working with brightness, contrast and structure before reviewing framing options.

When I began working with Photoshop many years ago, I was definitely a "fools rush in where angels fear to tread" sort of guy. I just started playing. Eventually I watched a few videos, but I basically learned by doing. I did the same thing with Lightroom and am now experimenting with SEP. I discovered that it really isn't possible to make mistakes that can't be corrected. Non-destructive processing is a dream. So the best way, in my opinion to find what you like with SEP, is to just begin moving sliders and seeing what you like.

I began playing with the 020 Fine Art Framed option, then reduced contrast slightly, reduced brightness slightly and added structure. Here is a shot I processed this way a moment ago... barbed wire taken yesterday with the 105 f/2.5 P AI'd, wide open.



Curtis, love this shot! SEP's #20 Fine Art Framed preset is nice, but usually renders most subjects too bright.
Your conversion looks just like it should in my opinion


Great minds I guess Georg...



CGrindahl
Registered: Dec 17, 2004
Total Posts: 11927
Country: United States

georgms wrote:
Mihai, best of luck for your surgery and lotsa sunny days when you're done with it! I've missed your posts.


+1 I'm aware that my hips are a bit more tender than when I was younger, but I hope to avoid a replacement. I have a friend who has had wonderful success and great relief from his surgery. Hopefully you will do as well. You are missed on the thread, but I'm certain you are with us in spirit if not on the thread. We shall be with you as well during your journey.



kwoodard
Registered: Aug 04, 2012
Total Posts: 2390
Country: United States

CGrindahl wrote:
georgms wrote:
Mihai, best of luck for your surgery and lotsa sunny days when you're done with it! I've missed your posts.


+1 I'm aware that my hips are a bit more tender than when I was younger, but I hope to avoid a replacement. I have a friend who has had wonderful success and great relief from his surgery. Hopefully you will do as well. You are missed on the thread, but I'm certain you are with us in spirit if not on the thread. We shall be with you as well during your journey.


I guess that would make me +2! Take care! Get some extension rings and do some Macro while your laid up.



CGrindahl
Registered: Dec 17, 2004
Total Posts: 11927
Country: United States

jhinkey wrote:
CGrindahl wrote:
I step away for a day and a half and suddenly we're talking about Voigtlander glass?

The natives must be restless... When you run out of Nikkors to buy, I guess you have to expand your horizons. Or in John's case, it is looking for the perfect kit that will fit in his backpack when he's scaling the peaks of Washington state. Clearly, Mihai has the problems with owning too many Nikkors... you can always send me the NOCT my friend... Lighten your load...



I know I know - us kids tend to get into trouble while adult supervision is not around - no more talk about such heretical things . . . .

Still hunting a 500/4 P - KEH has one right now for a decent price, but taxes are due next week

John


If you buy the 500 f/4 P, all will be forgiven...



Mishu01
Registered: Nov 20, 2009
Total Posts: 2324
Country: Romania

georgms wrote:
Mihai, best of luck for your surgery and lotsa sunny days when you're done with it! I've missed your posts.


Thanks Georg! I appreciate!

CGrindahl wrote:
georgms wrote:
Mihai, best of luck for your surgery and lotsa sunny days when you're done with it! I've missed your posts.


+1 I'm aware that my hips are a bit more tender than when I was younger, but I hope to avoid a replacement. I have a friend who has had wonderful success and great relief from his surgery. Hopefully you will do as well. You are missed on the thread, but I'm certain you are with us in spirit if not on the thread. We shall be with you as well during your journey.


Curtis, I'm younger than you so my hips must be better but unlike you I spent almost 28yrs under communism. The medical system was a nightmare (it isn't very performing yet... but is somehow improved). While I was a student I was the subject of a bad medical error: doctors confused a banal rheumatic illness with hip tuberculosis. The mistake was discovered 10 months later after they almost destroyed me with a treatment that was against my real problem. It took one more year to start over but I was only partially recovered. Getting older things get worse and I came to that point were I need both hips to be replaced - one of them as soon as possible. I never got any material compensation for what they did to me and actually I fully pay my surgeries in a private hospital (because my medical problem is older than my private medical insurance, so it's not covered...) But I've learned to live with this situation, enjoying the good part of this life i.e. photography, family, friends, etc. And yes, I'm optimist regarding the surgery... despite the fact that I developed a real phobia regarding doctors, hospitals, etc



kwoodard
Registered: Aug 04, 2012
Total Posts: 2390
Country: United States

Mishu01 wrote:Curtis, I'm younger than you so my hips must be better but unlike you I spent almost 28yrs under communism. The medical system was a nightmare (it isn't very performing yet... but is somehow improved). While I was a student I was the subject of a bad medical error: doctors confused a banal rheumatic illness with hip tuberculosis. The mistake was discovered 10 months later after they almost destroyed me with a treatment that was against my real problem. It took one more year to start over but I was only partially recovered. Getting older things get worse and I came to that point were I need both hips to be replaced - one of them as soon as possible. I never got any material compensation for what they did to me and actually I fully pay my surgeries in a private hospital (because my medical problem is older than my private medical insurance, so it's not covered...) But I've learned to live with this situation, enjoying the good part of this life i.e. photography, family, friends, etc. And yes, I'm optimist regarding the surgery... despite the fact that I developed a real phobia regarding doctors, hospitals, etc

Wow! Take care and keep us posted on your progress. Sending "Get well soon" prayers your way.



kwoodard
Registered: Aug 04, 2012
Total Posts: 2390
Country: United States

I got a line on a PK13 tube, for next to nothing... Going to look at it after work and hopefully pick it up. Excited!!!



georgms
Registered: Jan 08, 2009
Total Posts: 3043
Country: Germany

kwoodard wrote:
Seeing all these awesome shots the last few days got my mind all worked up trying to figure out how to get a D600. You folks are a bad influence, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

On another note, I was shooting an event this past weekend and my D7000 could not meter worth beans. Center and spot metering was hit and miss at best. Not sure what they did with the lights, but my camera was nothing but confused. So in about two hours, I worked through in my head how to really go all manual (shutter/aperture/ISO) to compensate for the pitiful light. I ended up with a few decent shots on the rear display, hope to see the results tonight on the puter. By the end of the event, I had muscle memory to change all three settings with my eye in the viewfinder. I was pretty proud of myself.


Kevin, manual exposure is the way to go for most stage-events (in my opinion). I've shot a ton of concert-, theatre- and other stage-events and can't imagine to work in A- or S-mode. Black curtains behind a singer for instance will confuse most cameras. Strong backlighting will do the same. Usually I try to find a "standard-exposure" (quick check for blinking highlights) and adjust manually by instinct, not by the meter, if the singer/actor walks into a less well lit corner of the stage (just an example).
Back in the film-days I've shot basically everything on stage at f/2.8 and a 1/250sec and just changed the developing time to adjust for more or less light ;-)

Edit: congrats to your PK-13! Can't wait to see your work with it.



jhinkey
Registered: Jan 08, 2010
Total Posts: 5218
Country: United States

CGrindahl wrote:
jhinkey wrote:
CGrindahl wrote:
I step away for a day and a half and suddenly we're talking about Voigtlander glass?

The natives must be restless... When you run out of Nikkors to buy, I guess you have to expand your horizons. Or in John's case, it is looking for the perfect kit that will fit in his backpack when he's scaling the peaks of Washington state. Clearly, Mihai has the problems with owning too many Nikkors... you can always send me the NOCT my friend... Lighten your load...



I know I know - us kids tend to get into trouble while adult supervision is not around - no more talk about such heretical things . . . .

Still hunting a 500/4 P - KEH has one right now for a decent price, but taxes are due next week

John


If you buy the 500 f/4 P, all will be forgiven...


My penance for having sinned!



Mishu01
Registered: Nov 20, 2009
Total Posts: 2324
Country: Romania

Thanks Kevin! You're very kind! I did some preliminary tests etc and in two weeks I have an appointment with the orthopedist to estabilsh which is the day of the first surgery. If I have to guess it will happen before middle of May but when I'll know for sure I'll leave a brief notice here. I'm encouraged to see people that I never met in person caring for such as situation. Thank you!

kwoodard wrote:
Mishu01 wrote:Curtis, I'm younger than you so my hips must be better but unlike you I spent almost 28yrs under communism. The medical system was a nightmare (it isn't very performing yet... but is somehow improved). While I was a student I was the subject of a bad medical error: doctors confused a banal rheumatic illness with hip tuberculosis. The mistake was discovered 10 months later after they almost destroyed me with a treatment that was against my real problem. It took one more year to start over but I was only partially recovered. Getting older things get worse and I came to that point were I need both hips to be replaced - one of them as soon as possible. I never got any material compensation for what they did to me and actually I fully pay my surgeries in a private hospital (because my medical problem is older than my private medical insurance, so it's not covered...) But I've learned to live with this situation, enjoying the good part of this life i.e. photography, family, friends, etc. And yes, I'm optimist regarding the surgery... despite the fact that I developed a real phobia regarding doctors, hospitals, etc

Wow! Take care and keep us posted on your progress. Sending "Get well soon" prayers your way.



georgms
Registered: Jan 08, 2009
Total Posts: 3043
Country: Germany

Chuong, the portraits of your daughter are wonderful!

Peter, I like your "Brown-deer"-image a lot. How is the 200/4 Micro compared to the "plain" 200/4? The long Micro is a lens that seems to get not much attention here.

Mark, the bell in the cliffs looks very unusual - I like this shot a lot.

Jose, the second image of the Vesuvius-crater is fantastic. The fine textures call for a really high resolving image and the D7000+20/2.8-combo delivered.



Mishu01
Registered: Nov 20, 2009
Total Posts: 2324
Country: Romania

georgms wrote:
kwoodard wrote:
Seeing all these awesome shots the last few days got my mind all worked up trying to figure out how to get a D600. You folks are a bad influence, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

On another note, I was shooting an event this past weekend and my D7000 could not meter worth beans. Center and spot metering was hit and miss at best. Not sure what they did with the lights, but my camera was nothing but confused. So in about two hours, I worked through in my head how to really go all manual (shutter/aperture/ISO) to compensate for the pitiful light. I ended up with a few decent shots on the rear display, hope to see the results tonight on the puter. By the end of the event, I had muscle memory to change all three settings with my eye in the viewfinder. I was pretty proud of myself.


Kevin, manual exposure is the way to go for most stage-events (in my opinion). I've shot a ton of concert-, theatre- and other stage-events and can't imagine to work in A- or S-mode. Black curtains behind a singer for instance will confuse most cameras. Strong backlighting will do the same. Usually I try to find a "standard-exposure" (quick check for blinking highlights) and adjust manually by instinct, not by the meter, if the singer/actor walks into a less well lit corner of the stage (just an example).
Back in the film-days I've shot basically everything on stage at f/2.8 and a 1/250sec and just changed the developing time to adjust for more or less light ;-)

Edit: congrats to your PK-13! Can't wait to see your work with it.


+1

Actually all camera meters are driven into wilderness at concerts Actually like Georg I also use manual mode 1/250 f2 or f2.8 and AutoISO. I take a first shot and then I bring exposure corrections making sure to have the face of the main performer exposed right. Do not care about anything else, just check his face until you get what you need. If I go for what camera says I need to introduce at least -2 fstop correction in order to see the face properly exposed. Later on in the PP you can work a bit on the shadows if necessary. In very dark venues sometimes I'm forced to go up to 1/60 f1.4 but then is a PITA to take images without recording the movement of the people. Do not be afraid to have the superior limit of AutoISO set at 6400. Grainy images look nice, especially in comparison with blurry junk



mp356
Registered: May 31, 2009
Total Posts: 3957
Country: United States

kwoodard wrote:
Mishu01 wrote:Curtis, I'm younger than you so my hips must be better but unlike you I spent almost 28yrs under communism. The medical system was a nightmare (it isn't very performing yet... but is somehow improved). While I was a student I was the subject of a bad medical error: doctors confused a banal rheumatic illness with hip tuberculosis. The mistake was discovered 10 months later after they almost destroyed me with a treatment that was against my real problem. It took one more year to start over but I was only partially recovered. Getting older things get worse and I came to that point were I need both hips to be replaced - one of them as soon as possible. I never got any material compensation for what they did to me and actually I fully pay my surgeries in a private hospital (because my medical problem is older than my private medical insurance, so it's not covered...) But I've learned to live with this situation, enjoying the good part of this life i.e. photography, family, friends, etc. And yes, I'm optimist regarding the surgery... despite the fact that I developed a real phobia regarding doctors, hospitals, etc

Wow! Take care and keep us posted on your progress. Sending "Get well soon" prayers your way.


Mahai, all the best with your surgery. We will all be thinking of you. Please keep us informed of your progress.



pbraymond
Registered: Oct 23, 2009
Total Posts: 1016
Country: United States

MarkdV wrote:
Nice shot Ray and great expression on the deer. I hope your ring tone wasn't the theme to Bambi.

No, not the theme to Bambi. Just an old fashion phone "riiinnggg".

MDoc9523 wrote:
Ray what great timing on your deer photo. Great capture, sharp and wonderfully framed!

Thanks Ray. It's actually cropped in LR quite a bit, I was at my longest lens I had with me, the 200 AI Micro. The performance holds up really well though even at the almost 50% crop.

Oosty wrote:
Ray - I went to your uploads and looked at it - I missed it first time round. That was very well spotted - unless you'd been walking round in circles for a couple of hours!

The trail sign picture was about 3 minutes after I got back to the car and started driving, the sunset in the opposite direction from the fishermen caught my eye and I stopped to look for something in the foreground.


One more from last Friday, just as I was getting back to the car. 200 AI Micro again.



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