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MarkdV
Registered: Jul 05, 2012
Total Posts: 1152
Country: Poland

Hi All,

Been a while since I had the chance to get the camera out. Managed yesterday and it promply started raining so I put it back and very soggily went home again, but I do have 2 sets of photos I have been wanting to share from Garda and Verona in Italy

This set is from the city of Verona. I've shared some before from Verona with the 50mm but these are a few from parts I didn't get to last time, specifically the castly and the famous balcony.

These are all with the 35-70mm and it rained all the time + somehow I got sand in the focus ring, but such a well made lens was easy to clean and the conditions caused no issues.

The castle was the seat of military authority during the middle ages, guarding the river and the city. Being Italy the real power however was held by the families who controlled the money and this swung between rival families in bloodthirsty intrigue that would make the storyline of Dallas believable in comparison.
The castle guarded the bridge across the Aldige river and this is what derived the city much of it's power as this was one of few crossing points of the river. The ancient bridge was bombed in WWII and after the war the local historical society scoured the river for all the original bricks they could find and rebuilt the bridge, casting replacement bricks in the old technique as needed.

The Juliet balcony is the most famous landmark of Verona, except perhaps for the ancient Arena, and attracts thousands of visitors and letters each year. "Juliet" answers all the letters thanks to a team of local volunteers (although one wonders if the writers of these letters have read the play and what happens to the star crossed lovers at the end, maybe not the people you want to write for advise!)



leighton w
Registered: Nov 12, 2010
Total Posts: 12621
Country: United States

CGrindahl wrote:
Very nice processing on that image Ray. Amazing what one can do in post. That is one of the reasons i so enjoy that half of the image making process. Well done!

leighton w wrote:
I agree, this one is better. The D600 files hold up amazingly well to just about anything you throw at them in post.

pburke wrote:
I must say that with the D600's extreme dynamic range I enjoy processing digital files even more than I used to like the black and white darkroom, and all that without the chemical buzz from the developing fumes. You can do so much with these raw files and pull out things you just don't expect to be in those files. I should post some before-after shots of some of my recent images to illustrate that.

Maybe one of these days we will have monitors that do show more dynamic range - right now you just get to see part of what the file contains unless you do a pretty strong HDR job on them, which after just a few dozen files gets old real fast. On the other hand, having access to that data is great when you need it - like to save that overexposed shot by burning in that sky, just like in the old enlarger days when we just held up that cardboard and turned it on another 5 seconds to give that sky some cloud detail. Some call this cheating, but until monitors show 14 bits of dynamic range, we'll have do make those choices just like in the days of different weight Ilford print papers and selenium toners.


When I first got mine I shot jpegs until LR updated. I was even blown away by how those were handled as well. After all, it's to be expected, the sensor is second only to the D800 in DR according to DXO.



leighton w
Registered: Nov 12, 2010
Total Posts: 12621
Country: United States

Mark, I love the first and third shots in your set.



mp356
Registered: May 31, 2009
Total Posts: 5639
Country: United States

Reagan, congrats on your son graduating.

John, great pano. At least you know what to sell the image for now. Also please share your 24-85 comparison test (of course not on this thread).

Ray, I like the revised night shot. I would keep that tripod handy to fend off pesky alligators.

Peter, thank you for the comment.

Rafael, that is some hunk of glass!

Mark, nice series from Italy. I like the fourth image of the castle and bridge.



Foggy14
Registered: May 01, 2010
Total Posts: 1472
Country: United States

Jose, beautiful bokeh play with Nikki's "daughter."

Philippe, lovely antiques set.

Laura, great composition work on the plane shots. Now, get back to your homework young lady!

Peter, beautiful Azaleas. Hope you had a great time in the Eastern Sierra. It's one of my favorite places.

Scott, love the foreground tulips, stonework and gate shot. Really nice.

Thanks Samy. Great goose. Of the two versions, I'm drawn to the b&w.

Kevin, great portraits. When I was doing some lens research I found this clip discussing how popular Nikkor MF lenses have become with videographers, especially those using Canon bodies. http://nofilmschool.com/2012/03/manual-focus-nikon-primes-swiss-army-knife/

Ronny, really like the flower shot with the 135mm and tube.

Chuong, the red flower on green background is gorgeous.

John, $47? Well worth it! Great pano.

Mark, very nice set from Verona.



CGrindahl
Registered: Dec 17, 2004
Total Posts: 16784
Country: United States

You definitely got a chuckle out of me Mark with the second shot. Perfect with the man at the right with his curious or disapproving visage. It is decades since I visited Verona but I imagine a place whose history extends back hundreds of years doesn't change that much decade to decade, at least not in the historic center. I stayed at a hotel close to this scene. It was magical. Of course, I'd met an American ballerina on the platform at Bergamo and shared an enchanting time with her, then drove with boyfriend to a caravan in the hills above Verona for an evening of red wine produced by the farmer on whose property their caravan was located. I spent my first night there. In the morning they "drove" me down to the city center, coasting the whole way because they couldn't afford gas. One of my fine adventures during that month long trip to Italy. That was 1975... where has the time gone...



MDoc9523
Registered: Aug 13, 2006
Total Posts: 5115
Country: United States

saph wrote:
Ray, thanks, here's the goose in color. Peter, it found its missing catchlight


I like this much better Samy Thank you
Scott thats a great idea cause I hate those pesky alligators



MDoc9523
Registered: Aug 13, 2006
Total Posts: 5115
Country: United States

MarkdV wrote:
Hi All,

Been a while since I had the chance to get the camera out. Managed yesterday and it promply started raining so I put it back and very soggily went home again, but I do have 2 sets of photos I have been wanting to share from Garda and Verona in Italy

This set is from the city of Verona. I've shared some before from Verona with the 50mm but these are a few from parts I didn't get to last time, specifically the castly and the famous balcony.

These are all with the 35-70mm and it rained all the time + somehow I got sand in the focus ring, but such a well made lens was easy to clean and the conditions caused no issues.

The castle was the seat of military authority during the middle ages, guarding the river and the city. Being Italy the real power however was held by the families who controlled the money and this swung between rival families in bloodthirsty intrigue that would make the storyline of Dallas believable in comparison.
The castle guarded the bridge across the Aldige river and this is what derived the city much of it's power as this was one of few crossing points of the river. The ancient bridge was bombed in WWII and after the war the local historical society scoured the river for all the original bricks they could find and rebuilt the bridge, casting replacement bricks in the old technique as needed.

The Juliet balcony is the most famous landmark of Verona, except perhaps for the ancient Arena, and attracts thousands of visitors and letters each year. "Juliet" answers all the letters thanks to a team of local volunteers (although one wonders if the writers of these letters have read the play and what happens to the star crossed lovers at the end, maybe not the people you want to write for advise!)


Love the look on the guys face






georgms
Registered: Jan 08, 2009
Total Posts: 4045
Country: Germany

The statue made me think about one in my hometown, I've shot it/her a couple of times now. Here are two shots from 2009:


a bit too much flare for my liking - D700, Ais 20/3.5 at f/8



D700, one of my two Ai'd 105/2.5's wide open
I asked a friendly lady with a camera to pose for me in the background - she is rendered a bit too unsharp.
We exchanged the pictures later ;-)

This fountain-figure (or fountain sculpture) is from 1922, it was created by an artist known for his war-memorials.
Stolen 1993 (probably not for it's beauty, rather for it's value as scrap-metal), remodeled and stolen again 2005, this one is from 2007.



MDoc9523
Registered: Aug 13, 2006
Total Posts: 5115
Country: United States

Georg that second shot has some amazing lighting. Although the lady is out of focus I am sure that the bokeh would not look as nice stopped down. I love the rounded lights!

Ray



kwoodard
Registered: Aug 04, 2012
Total Posts: 4684
Country: United States

MDoc9523 wrote:
Georg that second shot has some amazing lighting. Although the lady is out of focus I am sure that the bokeh would not look as nice stopped down. I love the rounded lights!

Ray

100% in agreement!



georgms
Registered: Jan 08, 2009
Total Posts: 4045
Country: Germany

Mark, very nice set from Verona! The 35-70 has some wild bokeh (very appealing to me - reminds me of the 35/1.4 in this matter).
Love the guys look on the Juliet-shot. "Castle and river" would make a perfect subject for a stitched pano.

Rafael, I'm in love with the pictured action-finder Wow, very cool set-up. Thanks for sharing pictures of your gear!

Ray, I prefer the second version of the nightly scene by a wide margin.

John, at first i've thought $47 refers to the price of a print-shop (a picture well worth to get printed fairly large). I like the second shot a lot too.
Sorry about the sneaky "parking enforcement person". Chuong is right on the money - sell the picture to the city.

Samy, while the goose looks good in color too, I still prefer the B&W-version.



georgms
Registered: Jan 08, 2009
Total Posts: 4045
Country: Germany

kwoodard wrote:
MDoc9523 wrote:
Georg that second shot has some amazing lighting. Although the lady is out of focus I am sure that the bokeh would not look as nice stopped down. I love the rounded lights!

Ray

100% in agreement!


Ray and Kevin - thanks! The old 105/2.5 did very well here, I'm not sure that the same picture taken with a 85/1.4, the 105/1.8 or the 135/2 would look much better in terms of bokeh.
The light was really harsh this day (as seen in the wide-angle-shot) and I usually shoot against the light under this conditions. I took some pictures with the 50/1.2 Ais as well, but those lack character.



asiostygius
Registered: Nov 29, 2011
Total Posts: 3289
Country: Brazil

Ronny _Olsson wrote:
Thanks



NIKKOR 180mm f/2.8 ED AI-s tc-200 teleconverter by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr

Nikkor 135mm f/2 Ai-s Vivitar Nikon AT-3/AI Extension Tube 36mm by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr




Spetacular shots Ronny!



asiostygius
Registered: Nov 29, 2011
Total Posts: 3289
Country: Brazil

kwoodard wrote:
raboof wrote:
Again.. 300mm f4.5 with PK-13. This should be my last







Very nice! I like this one a lot.


+100!!


Lieutenant Z
Registered: Nov 21, 2010
Total Posts: 3777
Country: France

Georg, both are nice but second one really does it for me. Well done!



Lieutenant Z
Registered: Nov 21, 2010
Total Posts: 3777
Country: France

a café in Lourmarin with Nikki's sister :



asiostygius
Registered: Nov 29, 2011
Total Posts: 3289
Country: Brazil

pburke wrote:
saph wrote:
Peter, maybe Jose has the 600 and can comment first hand on it? The 500 F4P is very much pro quality, the sharpness of the images is just striking. I have tried the TC14B, the TC16A and TC 301 with the 500 F4P. I don't do quantitative tests but the general feeling I get is there is very little loss of quality with those TCs.

The TC16A is great as it adds some rudimentary AF capability (you first manually focus to a narrow range around where the desired focus point is for that semi-AF to work). In cases of low contrast or low light, that capability doesn't work so well, but usually then neither does the focus indicator dot. The TC-16A needs to be modified to work on modern Nikons.

The cool thing about the F4 max aperture is the bright image in the viewfinder, compared to for example the 400 5.6. My 400 (nowadays generally with the TC16A attached) however gets a lot more work in general for hikes or trips. I need to look at a rolling carrier for the 500, I am not strong enough to carry it beyond 15-20 min

What application(s) will you use the 600 f4 for?

Samy


Samy,

I think Jose has the 600/f5.6 - saw a lot of his posts on this site and others. The 500mm f4 is a lens a good friend owned back in the 90s and I know it can deliver the goods, but I always felt my Canon's 600mm reach (or 840 with 1.4x) was better suited for what we did (motorsports). The 1.4 was really perfect, hard to notice on any shots. 2x converters were soft and we rarely used them, and apparently these days that is still true even for the latest glass.

Since I posted this morning, I've found a few more reviews and examples and I am pretty much determined to go for a 600/f4 AIS late generation. I just can't make up my mind between a beater for $1800 (adorama), a decent condition lens from Canada for $2400 and a near mint one for $2800... currently leaning towards the nice one, as it is easier to resell should I change my mind. The Canadian lens auction ends tonight - but it probably is the least likely purchase, being from a foreign seller and without case or other accessories.

What will I use for? Other than flood this forum with flower pictures, I shoot cars, planes, landscape, deep zoom panoramas in the gigapixel range, portraits, etc. I don't do birds and other animals for the most part, but who knows, maybe I will find some subjects other than our oversized mosquitoes and black bears in people's garbage cans.

What you tell me about the TC16A is what I assumed it can do. The modified units should work on my D600 and allow me to grab a focus point if I get the lens pre focused in the ballpark. That's pretty much how we used the AF lenses in the 90s, since they just could not keep up with fast cars, we just locked them on an object at the distance we wanted to shoot, then turned off the AF and fired away in MF, waiting for things to roll through our focal plane. Technically, I think you can do that with the confirm-dot, so the TC16 may not be of that much use - key for me would be to know how the image quality of it compares to a TC14B which is allegedly the best TC for the 600 F4 AIS.

Thanks for the input - I really just have to make peace with the thought of putting almost 3 grand into something I may not use very often, even if it is something that holds its value quite well, thanks to Nikon's F mount still being current.

Peter




Peter, not much to add here, since I have the 600/5.6 ais, not the f/4 version. Anyway, I just suggest you to consider the TC14E, filling off a small metal tab allows this TC to work flawlessly with any long MF lens. I suppose optics are slightly better than the TC14B.



asiostygius
Registered: Nov 29, 2011
Total Posts: 3289
Country: Brazil

georgms wrote:
The statue made me think about one in my hometown, I've shot it/her a couple of times now. Here are two shots from 2009:


a bit too much flare for my liking - D700, Ais 20/3.5 at f/8

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Georg, liked both, but this is splendid!



asiostygius
Registered: Nov 29, 2011
Total Posts: 3289
Country: Brazil

Thanks Philippe, Leighton, Georg, Ray (Ohio), Scott, Ray, Samy, Ronny, Peter (SA) and Jeff for the very kind words.

Ray (Ohio), loved the Azalea 3;

Scott, for me your 50/1.4 SC has a beautiful bokeh;

Samy, loved the B&W goose portrait;

Kevin, great shots with the 80-200/4.5;

Philippe, another great set with "Nikki's sister";

John, crisp and sharp pano with the 45/2.8;

Mark, loved the Verona set and the history lesson.



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