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leighton w
Registered: Nov 12, 2010
Total Posts: 9178
Country: United States

CGrindahl wrote:
Just because you fall asleep when sitting quietly Reagan doesn't mean everyone does...

Today I visited Green Gulch Zen Center above Mill Valley on the opposite side of Mount Tamalpais from where I live to continue my introduction to the spiritual side of Marin County. I think Nikki is having a good time. Here are a couple of shots from the garden area. Since I can't resist flower shots I'll start there.


The statue is of Quan Yin, a feminine embodiment of compassion.


I like the composition of this one and how the light is falling on the subject, well done!

Looks like Nikki is enjoying herself. She'll probably be too tired for Ben to use her when she gets home.

Any news about the lens hood? I've looked here to no avail.



saph
Registered: Jun 10, 2012
Total Posts: 2291
Country: United States

John, great comparison, and interesting to see the new 400 zoom struggling against the old MF 400 5.6. The zoom may be still worthwhile for something like BIF, airshows etc. where corners are less relevant and the AF is an asset. The VR issue is interesting though, so does the image not settle down in the viewfinder? In my now gone Sigma 150-500, the OS never completely stabilized and I could see the image shake. This does show though what we have all been experiencing on this thread, that the older MF Nikons hold their own pretty well despite all the advances in technology.

Curtis great images with Nikki. I particularly like the meditative, focused pose of the solitary Buddha statues, which seems to really go along with the blurring out of distractions in the background that the lens achieves.

Roland, really liked the curving train tracks and the light in that image.

Mark, I got vertigo looking that far down from the gondola, cool view though

Peter, very nice image with the 500 reflex. Very sharp for a 1/125s shutter.

Jose, great to see more and more of Pompeii, liked the Apollo statue.



deang001
Registered: Apr 23, 2011
Total Posts: 1525
Country: China

kings_freak wrote:
I don't think I have ever been as nervous shipping something as I was with this! Can't wait to see your shots.

–Tony



Tony, I know exactly how you felt. I was panicking even wrapping the lens !! I wrapped it with so many layers that Rinie must have thought I was nuts

Well done with Nikki btw. Very nice work ... as always.



deang001
Registered: Apr 23, 2011
Total Posts: 1525
Country: China

CGrindahl wrote:
Thanks Chin for adding that touch... it adds a great deal to the adventure, at least from my perspective. I'll be in touch with Ben and we'll work something out. Here is the first edition of photos taken with Nikki. I was at Spirit Rock Meditation Center this evening and brought Nikki with me. Here is a link to Spirit Rock, which is perhaps six or seven miles from where I live.


Night was coming on but I thought I'd grab a photo of the Buddha statues on display outside the meditation hall.


There isn't a hard click on the aperture ring at f/1.8 so it is tricky getting there consistently. This shows the aperture at f/2 though I had the ring turned to the end. And here are two Buddha statues for sale in the bookstore adjacent to the meditation hall. It is self service on an honor system. The statues both stood against windows opening to the adjacent woodland.


And here is a Quan Yin statue on the side of the main altar in the meditation hall. This building was the first erected on the site which has been expanded considerably over the last decade.

I'll stretch the limit by adding a fifth photo, this of a Tibetan thangka that is about eight feet high.

Eastern spiritual traditions are very well represented in the Bay Area. We have a great number of meditation centers in Marin. In addition to Spirit Rock there is Green Gulch Zen Center and the Vedanta Retreat Center. Perhaps I'll stop by Green Gulch so Nikki can see how Zen Buddhism, which has its roots in Japan, is faring her in American. San Francisco Zen Center was founded by Suzuki Roshi who trained in Japan.



Very nice spiritual start for Nikki, Curtis. Wonderful shooting. Got to love Buddha bokeh

Looks like you live in a great part of town.



asiostygius
Registered: Nov 29, 2011
Total Posts: 2587
Country: Brazil

Kry27 wrote:
Jose, what type of software do you use to stitch, if I may ask?



Roland, thank you for looking.
I am too lazy and no PP expert, so I just use the "Photomerge" and "auto blend" options at PS CS5. Most of times the results are OK. Other here have used PTGui with great success, but I have not experiences with this software.



pbraymond
Registered: Oct 23, 2009
Total Posts: 1080
Country: United States

Dropping by quickly, I have to say, I'm really enjoying the Nikki series Curtis, esp of the market.



asiostygius
Registered: Nov 29, 2011
Total Posts: 2587
Country: Brazil

CGrindahl wrote:
Thanks Chin for adding that touch... it adds a great deal to the adventure, at least from my perspective. I'll be in touch with Ben and we'll work something out. Here is the first edition of photos taken with Nikki. I was at Spirit Rock Meditation Center this evening and brought Nikki with me. Here is a link to Spirit Rock, which is perhaps six or seven miles from where I live.







Eastern spiritual traditions are very well represented in the Bay Area. We have a great number of meditation centers in Marin. In addition to Spirit Rock there is Green Gulch Zen Center and the Vedanta Retreat Center. Perhaps I'll stop by Green Gulch so Nikki can see how Zen Buddhism, which has its roots in Japan, is faring her in American. San Francisco Zen Center was founded by Suzuki Roshi who trained in Japan.


What a great set with Nikki, Curtis. I liked the most this one, great colours and bokeh!


asiostygius
Registered: Nov 29, 2011
Total Posts: 2587
Country: Brazil

jhinkey wrote:
Well, I stopped by the local pro shop in downtown Seattle after having lunch with an old friend I had not seen in almost 10 years. Lunch was great with her, but I had brought my camera bag with me and was eager to see what they had in the used case.

Turns out they had not much interesting in the used case, but they did have the brand spankin' new 80-400/4.5-5.6 AFS VR. I also had my 400/5.6 ED AI with me, so I decide to do a side-by-side match as best I could with my D800. No tripod, but the 80-400 has VR and it was a nice sunny afternoon in Seattle for a change.

What was the upshod at 400mm? Well, in the center at f/5.6 and f/8 the brand new lens from Nikon just barely beat out the 30 year old lens - only noticeable at 100%. It was just a tad sharper and had a bit less CA. So I checked out the edges and far corners and what do you know? - The old 400/5.6 ED handily won that battle at both apertures tested. The new 80-400 was blurry and wavy for sure while the 400/5.6 ED was just slightly less sharp in the far corners.

So, if you need 400mm and don't need VR or AF, then save yourself $2K and find a 400/5.6 ED or ED-IF . . .

PS - I also was not that impressed with the VR steadiness at 400mm - my 70-200/4 + TC20EIII seemed much much more rock steady than the 80-400/4.5-5.6 AFS VR.

Really to do it right I would need to put both lenses on a tripod, but both hand held - one with VR and the other not - is not so bad of a comparison. Some pictures later.

- John


John, thanks for the preliminary comparison.
Did you note the focus breathing of the new zoom at 400mm vs. the older non IF (helicoidal focus) design? It is supposed by first reports and specifications to be horribly (at least for birders like me) evident.



MDoc9523
Registered: Aug 13, 2006
Total Posts: 5007
Country: United States

Curtis I love the shots taken with Nikki. They show a lot of thought and preparation. The shot that Leighton pointed out is also my favorite. Well done!



MDoc9523
Registered: Aug 13, 2006
Total Posts: 5007
Country: United States

Kry27 wrote:
I almost don't dare posting more pictures 'interrupting' the wonderful story of a lens' trip in the world... Even more so as a 'beginner' in this thread, and with all the skilled photographers around.

There's not that much time to go out and shoot for me anyway, so the only thing I can do is take pictures while traveling to and from work every day. Well, at least it's not THAT cold any more, so I can enjoy traveling:

Leaving work with the 35/2.0, happy about the wonderful light coming back into the land:



And a series from Zurich Oerlikon train station, where my previously posted 85mm shot has been taken, and where I change train twice a day. All shot with the 105/2.5, yesterday night and this morning:




Well done. This is an excellent shot!
Ray



MDoc9523
Registered: Aug 13, 2006
Total Posts: 5007
Country: United States

Jose another great set but this one really shines!






jhinkey
Registered: Jan 08, 2010
Total Posts: 5797
Country: United States

asiostygius wrote:
jhinkey wrote:
Well, I stopped by the local pro shop in downtown Seattle after having lunch with an old friend I had not seen in almost 10 years. Lunch was great with her, but I had brought my camera bag with me and was eager to see what they had in the used case.

Turns out they had not much interesting in the used case, but they did have the brand spankin' new 80-400/4.5-5.6 AFS VR. I also had my 400/5.6 ED AI with me, so I decide to do a side-by-side match as best I could with my D800. No tripod, but the 80-400 has VR and it was a nice sunny afternoon in Seattle for a change.

What was the upshod at 400mm? Well, in the center at f/5.6 and f/8 the brand new lens from Nikon just barely beat out the 30 year old lens - only noticeable at 100%. It was just a tad sharper and had a bit less CA. So I checked out the edges and far corners and what do you know? - The old 400/5.6 ED handily won that battle at both apertures tested. The new 80-400 was blurry and wavy for sure while the 400/5.6 ED was just slightly less sharp in the far corners.

So, if you need 400mm and don't need VR or AF, then save yourself $2K and find a 400/5.6 ED or ED-IF . . .

PS - I also was not that impressed with the VR steadiness at 400mm - my 70-200/4 + TC20EIII seemed much much more rock steady than the 80-400/4.5-5.6 AFS VR.

Really to do it right I would need to put both lenses on a tripod, but both hand held - one with VR and the other not - is not so bad of a comparison. Some pictures later.

- John


John, thanks for the preliminary comparison.
Did you note the focus breathing of the new zoom at 400mm vs. the older non IF (helicoidal focus) design? It is supposed by first reports and specifications to be horribly (at least for birders like me) evident.


I only tested it at a large distance (like 1 km). It does appear to have very high contrast and "snap" to the image compared to my 400/5.6 ED AI. I would estimate that the inner 75% of the frame is very sharp.

Unfortunately the need for fast AF necessitates IF designs and thus the associated optical ills . . . .



jhinkey
Registered: Jan 08, 2010
Total Posts: 5797
Country: United States

MDoc9523 wrote:
Jose another great set but this one really shines!






+1

Is that Vesuvius in the background?

Interesting reading via Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pompeii

FYI Jose - My one daughter and I just spend the last 1/2 hour going through your Pompeii images and she loved them! She knows a lot about all the Greek and Roman gods and really liked seeing the paintings.


jhinkey
Registered: Jan 08, 2010
Total Posts: 5797
Country: United States

saph wrote:
John, great comparison, and interesting to see the new 400 zoom struggling against the old MF 400 5.6. The zoom may be still worthwhile for something like BIF, airshows etc. where corners are less relevant and the AF is an asset. The VR issue is interesting though, so does the image not settle down in the viewfinder? In my now gone Sigma 150-500, the OS never completely stabilized and I could see the image shake. This does show though what we have all been experiencing on this thread, that the older MF Nikons hold their own pretty well despite all the advances in technology.



Yes, the VR just never seemed to be rock steady like my 70-200/4 + TC20EIII which seems astoundingly steady even compared to my 70-200/2.8 VRII.

Yes those corners are important to me because I tend to use my 400mm for landscape-type shots.
Unfortunately I was using the store display copy of the new 80-400 and hence could not do a proper comparison on a tripod, etc. Perhaps on a similar sunny day I'll haul my 70-200/4 and 70-200/2.8 + TC20EIII to the store and try it again.

- John



asiostygius
Registered: Nov 29, 2011
Total Posts: 2587
Country: Brazil

jhinkey wrote:
MDoc9523 wrote:
Jose another great set but this one really shines!


+1

Is that Vesuvius in the background?

Interesting reading via Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pompeii

FYI Jose - My one daughter and I just spend the last 1/2 hour going through your Pompeii images and she loved them! She knows a lot about all the Greek and Roman gods and really liked seeing the paintings.



Thank you John. Yes, it is the Vesuvius which I visited some days after this shot.
I am glad you and your daughter enjoyed the photos!! For an easier view my flicker set is here: http://flic.kr/s/aHsjEeE47q

The Pompeii sets are almost finishing but next week I will post Herculaneum and then Vesuvius images and at last some from ancient Rome.

Thanks for the link.
I have found this one also very interesting and with a lot of photos:
https://sites.google.com/site/ad79eruption/home



Ronny _Olsson
Registered: Jun 24, 2012
Total Posts: 2360
Country: Sweden

Great shot Mark Curtis Jose Roland

Same testshot with 180 ai-s and Tc-200

NIKKOR 180mm f/2.8 ED AI-s tc-200 teleconverter by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr

NIKKOR 180mm f/2.8 ED AI-s tc-200 teleconverter by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr



MDoc9523
Registered: Aug 13, 2006
Total Posts: 5007
Country: United States

That looks great Ronny.



rankamateur
Registered: Nov 25, 2007
Total Posts: 843
Country: United States

Maybe spring is finally coming here. All I have seen is the usual feeder birds that are around all year until today when I spotted this Mockingbird hiding in the thicket. 80-200 4.5 C Auto



asiostygius
Registered: Nov 29, 2011
Total Posts: 2587
Country: Brazil

Ronny and Ron, lovely bird shots.

Ron, I bet a stupid AF lens would focus the twig



Ronny _Olsson
Registered: Jun 24, 2012
Total Posts: 2360
Country: Sweden

Thanks Jose and Ray
Great shot Ron

Nikkor 135mm f/2 AI-s tc-200 teleconverter

Nikkor 135mm f/2 AI-s tc-200 teleconverter by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr



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