ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)
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DannyBurkPhoto
Registered: Sep 26, 2015
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Country: United States

Hi - new member here. I've recently moved from 4x5 and 617 film formats to a 5DSR and A7RII, and have found a lot of useful info here to help with the transition. I'll post a couple of images here, since I'm using a Zeiss ZE set with both cameras. I've not yet had a chance to do much shooting (other than test subjects!) with the new system, which I hope to change next month with some fall color.

Here's a recent b&w image from Potato Creek State Park, Indiana: 5DSR, ZE 21/2.8 Distagon.



DannyBurkPhoto
Registered: Sep 26, 2015
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"Attack of the Weevil Army" 5DSR, ZE 135/2 at f/2.



designdog
Registered: Oct 05, 2004
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OK, in going back over some notes from my previous experience with the 1.4/85 I now recall what "focusing and shooting at the aperture" means, by using the depth of field preview.

My issue is that I never really use the viewfinder to focus MF lenses. I am not sure, with the standard focusing screen on my D800, and my 70 year old eyes, that I could really discern focus in the first place. No, I rely on the green dot for focus.

Which brings me to another question. I know that the D800 does not focus off the sensor but through the lens; if you press the depth of field button, is the camera then focusing at the shooting aperture? Does the green dot reflect this? If so, it seems to me that I could hold down the depth of field preview button, refocus, and the green dot would help me get a better shot?

Sorry to put up so much verbiage on this essentially photo forum. Actual images will follow!



bjornthun
Registered: Sep 10, 2012
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The green dot will light up when you've focussed to within depth of field and not necessarily on the exact plane of focus. This is exacerbated as you stop down, so the green dot won't give very exact focusing. On a DSLR you will have to resort to luveview for that. I've moved entirely to Sony mirrorless, since optical viewfinders don't work well for me.



nntnam
Registered: Sep 23, 2013
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Country: Japan

Studying focus stacking. Turns out the 100MP is not the very good lens for focus stacking .

100MP/ 3 images stacked



Gunzorro
Registered: Aug 28, 2010
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DannyBurkPhoto wrote:
"Attack of the Weevil Army" 5DSR, ZE 135/2 at f/2.


Welcome, Danny! Nice shots there.



DannyBurkPhoto
Registered: Sep 26, 2015
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Thanks, Gunzorro

Here are a couple more: Coneflower (background of yellow coneflowers): 5DSR, Zeiss 135/2 at f/2.



DannyBurkPhoto
Registered: Sep 26, 2015
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Gretchen and Heidi: Sony A7RII, Zeiss Otus 85/1.4 at f/2.



Abuttolph
Registered: May 20, 2014
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Country: United States

designdog wrote:
OK, in going back over some notes from my previous experience with the 1.4/85 I now recall what "focusing and shooting at the aperture" means, by using the depth of field preview.

My issue is that I never really use the viewfinder to focus MF lenses. I am not sure, with the standard focusing screen on my D800, and my 70 year old eyes, that I could really discern focus in the first place. No, I rely on the green dot for focus.

Which brings me to another question. I know that the D800 does not focus off the sensor but through the lens; if you press the depth of field button, is the camera then focusing at the shooting aperture? Does the green dot reflect this? If so, it seems to me that I could hold down the depth of field preview button, refocus, and the green dot would help me get a better shot?

Sorry to put up so much verbiage on this essentially photo forum. Actual images will follow!


Yes, I think that this approach should work. It might be easier to use the aperture ring and set it to whatever you plan to use, and then focus so that you don't have to hold down the dof button. Using liveview helps too. Once focussed, you can reset the aperture ring so that the camera will talk to the lens and take your shot.



nntnam
Registered: Sep 23, 2013
Total Posts: 333
Country: Japan

100MP



joakim
Registered: Apr 06, 2008
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Country: Sweden

designdog wrote:
OK, in going back over some notes from my previous experience with the 1.4/85 I now recall what "focusing and shooting at the aperture" means, by using the depth of field preview.

My issue is that I never really use the viewfinder to focus MF lenses. I am not sure, with the standard focusing screen on my D800, and my 70 year old eyes, that I could really discern focus in the first place. No, I rely on the green dot for focus.

Which brings me to another question. I know that the D800 does not focus off the sensor but through the lens; if you press the depth of field button, is the camera then focusing at the shooting aperture? Does the green dot reflect this? If so, it seems to me that I could hold down the depth of field preview button, refocus, and the green dot would help me get a better shot?

Sorry to put up so much verbiage on this essentially photo forum. Actual images will follow!


I got curious about the focus confirmation and ran a quick test with my Nikon D810 which confirmed what i suspected. The focus confirmation works at a fixed aperture, not sure what it is for my D810, since it is supposed to confirm the plane of focus and not the depth. I focused the lens on a close target until I got the dot confirmation and then slowly tilted the camera out of focus in both directions and for both with an aperture at 1.4 and 5.6 the dot disappeared at the same distance form the original focus plane.

When pressing the Dof preview button the dot also disappeared which makes sense since we're now interested in the whole Dof field rather than the focus plane.



designdog
Registered: Oct 05, 2004
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Country: United States

Thanks joakim. I looked again at some of my shots with the new 1.4/85, as well as some of what I considered really good ones from my previous copy of the lens. What I discovered was that many of the "good shots" were not necessarily perfectly in focus. I think is is the love/hate aspect of this lens, and some of the other Zeiss lenses I can think of. Some, like the MPs, are all about sharpness and accuracy, while others, like the 1.4/85, the 1.4/35, are more about character.

Also, while I love my D800 it has encouraged me to adopt a pixel-peeping-first mode of viewing my photography. This is not good. Most times I immediately zoom into 100% before really appreciating the shot for all of the other characteristics content, composition, color, tone, etc.

I think I am just going to shoot away and enjoy my "new" lens for its personality, and let the 100% in-focus fall where it may...



phuang3
Registered: Feb 09, 2005
Total Posts: 1555
Country: Taiwan

A few shots from a very high ranking Japanese restaurant during the trip.
ZE50/2










































wayne seltzer
Registered: Dec 22, 2007
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Country: United States

Phuang3, beautiful shots with the ZE50/2! I have always liked the rendering and colors of that lens. I stopped using mine when I got my D800E and Otus 55/1.4 but now should try it out again on my 5DsR and compare with my Otus which I love too. Both differ in bokeh rendering.



philber
Registered: May 21, 2008
Total Posts: 9313
Country: France

Wayne, do not discount the Milvus 50 f:1.4. From what I've seen so far, it looks interesting! Also, according to Zeiss, the Milvus iterations of the Makro Planar tandem are a tad better than the ZE/ZF.2



phuang3
Registered: Feb 09, 2005
Total Posts: 1555
Country: Taiwan

wayne seltzer wrote:
Phuang3, beautiful shots with the ZE50/2! I have always liked the rendering and colors of that lens. I stopped using mine when I got my D800E and Otus 55/1.4 but now should try it out again on my 5DsR and compare with my Otus which I love too. Both differ in bokeh rendering.



Wayne seltzer,
Thanks. The otus does have size & weight issues for travel. For trips, this ZE & Leica 60mm are always my favorites. Otus is best at landscape whereas ZE50 is optimized at close range. It's macro performance is phenomenal.



phuang3
Registered: Feb 09, 2005
Total Posts: 1555
Country: Taiwan

philber wrote:
... Also, according to Zeiss, the Milvus iterations of the Makro Planar tandem are a tad better than the ZE/ZF.2


hi philber,

I thought Milvus 50/2 and ZE50/2 are identical in optical construction. Where did you get this information? However, I do hope Zeiss will introduce an Otus macro lens though.



philber
Registered: May 21, 2008
Total Posts: 9313
Country: France

Hi Phuang,
You are correct, the optical constructions are identical, but Zeiss have improved coatings, which is the basis for my statement.
For macro, I used to have a Leica 60 Elmarit R, but now I use my Otus 55 with tubes. It saves weight, and gives glorious results. But I am not into hard-core macro, more in to close-ups.



phuang3
Registered: Feb 09, 2005
Total Posts: 1555
Country: Taiwan

philber wrote:
Hi Phuang,
You are correct, the optical constructions are identical, but Zeiss have improved coatings, which is the basis for my statement.
For macro, I used to have a Leica 60 Elmarit R, but now I use my Otus 55 with tubes. It saves weight, and gives glorious results. But I am not into hard-core macro, more in to close-ups.



I see. It sounds cool to use tubes with Otus. Otus is the best without question.



phuang3
Registered: Feb 09, 2005
Total Posts: 1555
Country: Taiwan

More shots from ZE50/2
Beitou library















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