ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)
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dgjean
Registered: May 15, 2006
Total Posts: 604
Country: United States

A lot of wonderful shots, Cyra!

A shot from Venice with the 35/1.4 ZF.2:

Nikon D3s & Zeiss 35/1.4 ZF.2

To Begin The World All Over Again by Donald G. Jean, on Flickr



cyra
Registered: Jan 19, 2011
Total Posts: 822
Country: Austria

thanks, dgjean! - your flickerstream is awesome. The images look even greater on black background.

another walk with the ZF 85/1.4, D700





























Picture This!
Registered: Aug 03, 2010
Total Posts: 2143
Country: United States

D800e+ ZF.2 21
Black sand beach, Maui, Hawaii



cyra
Registered: Jan 19, 2011
Total Posts: 822
Country: Austria

Manu, I like the mood in this picture a lot

more roses with ZF 28/2, D700















eugend
Registered: Jun 20, 2013
Total Posts: 4
Country: Romania

Hello, here's my macro try with ZE 35/f2:







user222
Registered: Sep 13, 2007
Total Posts: 817
Country: United States

50P






Jay968
Registered: Mar 29, 2011
Total Posts: 146
Country: United States

I wonder if someone can help me out here. I just posted this outside this thread but then thought it might be better off here. I will delete the other one once this one is posted;

A few years ago I owned the 100MP and was never really satisfied with the results. I also at that time had a 35 F2 and a 50MP (all EF for Canon) and just felt that both of the other two lenses gave me more consistant and sharper images. I knew this was contrary to popular opinion but I did end up selling the 100 when I got my 5D MKIII due to difficulty focusing with its screen.

Fast forward a few years and I now own a 6D body along with the 21, 35F2, 50MP, and once again the 100MP. and use the EG-S screen for focusing. While I feel the other lenses are superb, especially the 21, I am once again frustrated with the 100. It's not that it's UNsharp and due to the fact that this is now the second sample I have tried, I doubt there is anything wrong with the lens. However, I am just not impressed at all by it. I think all 3 of the other lenses are noticeably sharper and exhibit more of the Zeiss look and qualities in general. For that matter, I was more impressed with the Canon 100 macro II that I just sold in order to get this lens.

So, can someone give me some pointers on this lens? I have shot everything from macro, to mid range (about 8 or 10 feet way from subject matter) to landscape type shots and nothing is impressing me about it. Not that it's bad, just not in any way shape or form as impressive as everyone makes it out to be nor as impressive as the 3 other Zeiss lenses which I own.

BTW I AM very discriminating when it comes to lenses, shot for years with a Nikkor 105mm F2.5 which I loved (not by today's standards), can pick out the Zeiss 50 F1.4 most everytime in this forum (I think it's a pretty bad lens), and think the Zeiss 21 is about as good a lens as I have ever shot with. I am not impressed by much of what I see from the 100MP in this forum, so maybe I am just looking at its images differently than everyone else is, or expecting too much from it? I don't know. I think eugend's macro shot (a couple of images above this post) of the watch with his 35 looks better than most of what I have ever seen shot macro with the 100.

Help? Can anyone give me some pointers on how to make the most of it so I can really find out whether or not it's for me?



Samuli Vahonen
Registered: Jul 16, 2003
Total Posts: 1892
Country: Finland

Jay968 wrote:
Help? Can anyone give me some pointers on how to make the most of it so I can really find out whether or not it's for me?

For me 2/100 has been 110% tripod+live view lens; the ridiculous short focus throw combined to lens characters, which require perfect focusing. In practice focusing takes 5-10x time or even more compared to lenses, with more practical focus throw. Boke improves when you close down, most of the boke issues are solved by closing down to f/3.2.

2/100 used to be my favorite lens, but I think I didn't shoot even single frame during 2013 (didn't check, I may have shoot some and just don't remember). However 1.4/85 and 2/135 got thousands of exposures, as well as Contax G90 hundreds.


Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 2/25 ZE @ f/8.0, 1252s, ISO 100 @ Sony A7

Notes for next try of star trails:
- shoot wider than 25mm to include North Star (center of circular motion)
- 15 minute exposure is not long enough
- pick night without moonlight and area where there are less lights
- bring second tripod, it's really boring to wait 15+ minutes (I usually anyways carry 2-3 cameras, so could use the time in between to setup next on other tripod)
- bring tea/coffee, and don't go shooting when it's -20C (-4F)

Samuli



Jay968
Registered: Mar 29, 2011
Total Posts: 146
Country: United States

Very interesting Samuli. Not exactly what I wanted to hear but it does indeed explain some things to me. I've been shooting outside around the house all day and still haven't really seen an image that is impressing me. I hear what you say about the short focus throw. Perhaps it's just too demanding. I tried the 135 several months ago and found the same issue with it. Great potential but very difficult to actually achieve pinpoint focusing.

Any other suggestions would be welcome. This is NOT a lens that I purchased in order to use on a tripod, that's for sure.



cyra
Registered: Jan 19, 2011
Total Posts: 822
Country: Austria

I don't know with the 100 MP, I find myself using the 85/1.4 more when I am at home, but the 100 more when traveling other countries.
I agree with the short focus throw, I find myself liking it best at shorter distance (up to 1 m or so. But I also have some landscape shots I like. I have no real complaints about it, and can't really help you to put your finger on what you don't like about it. Maybe you should post some of your pictures which you aren't content with and discuss them.

ZF 100/2 MP







Jay968
Registered: Mar 29, 2011
Total Posts: 146
Country: United States

So after printing up about a dozen images that I had shot this afternoon I have not quite but almost come to the conclusion that the 100MP is not my thing.

I have been so impressed by the 21, 35 and 50MP that I think I fell for the Zeiss mystique only to find that some of their lenses are superb while others are good but just not in the same league. Interesting that it took the 100MP to get me there as this lens has such a great reputation but I am honestly just not seeing it as it is hardly any better (if at all) than the Canon 100mm F2.8L macro. Having shot with the Zeiss 28 and 85 at times, I CAN say the 100MP outperforms the 28 but is very close in sharpness to the 85 (focus shift notwithstanding). The 100 does a very good job with subject matter between about 10 and 20 feet away but falls short at greater distances. Even the Canon 70-200 lenses seem to do a better job in that range. As far as macro goes, I have not given it a true test and shouldn't comment.

Anyway, once again if anyone can give me some pointers or tips on how to maximize this lens, I am listening as I would honestly love to make it work. I have always been very impressed by the Zeiss construction and actually do prefer manual focus any day over AF.

By the way, my shooting today consisted of shooting mainly at either F8 or 5.6, all handheld at appropriate shutter speeds for bright sunlight at ISO 100.

Cyra, I would post but I have no means to do so, unless there is a way to upload them here.



Toothwalker
Registered: Jan 24, 2009
Total Posts: 1494
Country: Norway

Jay968 wrote:
I have been so impressed by the 21, 35 and 50MP that I think I fell for the Zeiss mystique only to find that some of their lenses are superb while others are good but just not in the same league. Interesting that it took the 100MP to get me there as this lens has such a great reputation but I am honestly just not seeing it as it is hardly any better (if at all) than the Canon 100mm F2.8L macro. Having shot with the Zeiss 28 and 85 at times, I CAN say the 100MP outperforms the 28 but is very close in sharpness to the 85 (focus shift notwithstanding). The 100 does a very good job with subject matter between about 10 and 20 feet away but falls short at greater distances. Even the Canon 70-200 lenses seem to do a better job in that range.


The MP2.8/100 actually performs best at infinity. You need to nail the focus though and should not trust the infinity stop. In my opinion it is quite a bit better than the D2/35.



cyra
Registered: Jan 19, 2011
Total Posts: 822
Country: Austria

Jay, I upload at zeissimages.com. You can there search images by a specific lens.
100 MP is the most posted lens, by the way.


first springflowers are out! (old photo though) - all ZF 100/2 MP



















user222
Registered: Sep 13, 2007
Total Posts: 817
Country: United States

Jay968 wrote:Anyway, once again if anyone can give me some pointers or tips on how to maximize this lens, I am listening as I would honestly love to make it work.

If that lens isn't meeting your expectations I would recommend selling it or returning it, and finding one you like better.



Steve Spencer
Registered: Nov 08, 2006
Total Posts: 9581
Country: Canada

Jay968 wrote:
So after printing up about a dozen images that I had shot this afternoon I have not quite but almost come to the conclusion that the 100MP is not my thing.

Anyway, once again if anyone can give me some pointers or tips on how to maximize this lens, I am listening as I would honestly love to make it work. I have always been very impressed by the Zeiss construction and actually do prefer manual focus any day over AF.

By the way, my shooting today consisted of shooting mainly at either F8 or 5.6, all handheld at appropriate shutter speeds for bright sunlight at ISO 100.

Cyra, I would post but I have no means to do so, unless there is a way to upload them here.


Before I would give up on the lens, I would try shooting it from a tripod using live view. You should then be able to get sharp images and using it with live view will help you learn the very precise focussing that is required for this lens. I find that for longer focal lengths using the viewfinder for focussing gets harder because the image jiggles more in the viewfinder. My hands definitely aren't the steadiest, so I suspect lots of other people wouldn't have nearly as difficult time as I do. If you can't get sharp images from a tripod using live view, then I would definitely return it. You may find that it is a lens that is just hard to focus through the viewfinder and that may not suit your needs. In which case you might be happier with something else.

If you want to upload an image and you already have it online, all you have to do is paste a link to the image in your post. Many people post images that way around here.

Good luck.



grosema
Registered: Jan 12, 2004
Total Posts: 2454
Country: Canada

D800e Zeiss Otus 55
This is where oil was discovered in 1858 Oil Springs Ontario






Jay968
Registered: Mar 29, 2011
Total Posts: 146
Country: United States

Thanks for the help and suggestions...I may take a look at zeissimages and try and upload something there. No I don't think I am quite ready to give up on the lens as I like the 100mm length and this lens has an awful lot of praise going for it.



Ronny Olsson
Registered: Jun 24, 2012
Total Posts: 4784
Country: Sweden

Jay968 wrote
I don't know. I think eugend's macro shot (a couple of images above this post) of the watch with his 35 looks better than most of what I have ever seen shot macro with the 100.


Think that 100Mp works prefect to macro even if it is only 1:2
Have never used tripod for 100MP but sometimes I tend to use live view

I posted these images before

Zeiss Makro-Planar T* 100mm f/2 by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr

Zeiss Makro-Planar T* 100mm f/2 by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr

Zeiss Makro-Planar T* 100mm f/2 ZF by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr

Zeiss Makro-Planar T* 100mm f/2 tube 36mm by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr

Zeiss Makro-Planar T* 100mm f/2 ZF by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr



Picture This!
Registered: Aug 03, 2010
Total Posts: 2143
Country: United States

Beautiful shots Ronny !



Rodluvan
Registered: Sep 01, 2010
Total Posts: 713
Country: Sweden

grosema wrote:
D800e Zeiss Otus 55


I would love to see this lens having a thread of its own due to its superlative nature. Easier to find the relatively few photos I assume will be posted.

Anyway, here's a few with the lesser 50MP @ 2.0



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