ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)
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RiverGuy
Registered: Jan 04, 2009
Total Posts: 108
Country: United States

alkanphel's first shot is world class

rji2goleez bridge series is a perfect study

Really great work on this page.

--Dan



RiverGuy
Registered: Jan 04, 2009
Total Posts: 108
Country: United States

It's really cold here in East TN, so the new Otus didn't venture out much on the first day. This weekend i'll put it through the paces when we have several events and much warmer weather. In the meantime, I've posted a few quick indoor shots at our Voices of the Land exhibit at the East TN Historical Society, and a series of different apertures applied to the same object, a lantern/light on a 1902 Cadillac which may well have been Knoxville's first automobile.

--Dan

Here's the links to my gallery, which will eventually have all sorts of images, all made with the Otus 55:

http://danmacdonald.zenfolio.com/carlzeiss55otus

Direct link to slideshow: http://danmacdonald.zenfolio.com/carlzeiss55otus/slideshow







Crop of previous image:







Samuli Vahonen
Registered: Jul 16, 2003
Total Posts: 1892
Country: Finland

Good to see shipments of Otus T* 1.4/55 has started! I'm trying to figure out should I get:
a) one more 5DmkII body + Otus T* 1.4/55
b) A7R + FE 1.8/58
and we (or at least myself..) need much more real photos from FM members to get better understanding of both of those lenses.




Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 1.4/35 @ f/2.8 , 1/30s, ISO 100, polarizer


Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 1.4/35 @ f/4 , 1/13s, ISO 100, polarizer


Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 1.4/35 @ f/4 , 1/6s, ISO 100, polarizer


Samuli



RiverGuy
Registered: Jan 04, 2009
Total Posts: 108
Country: United States

Samuli,

I won't know for a few days, maybe even a few weeks, how I'll do with the Otus. That it is a fabulous lens is already proven with images from the prototypes on the Zeiss website. For a lens this expensive and innovative, I cannot imagine anyone trying to judge it just by the images posted in forums. That's important, but the core information provided in Lloyd Chamber's paid review is worth the price many times over. I always use his reviews as my base, then go looking for images in the forums, photo websites and elsewhere. There is even a condensed mini review Lloyd did of the Otus that is free on the Zeiss website.

Check back on my website by Monday. I plan on doing three separate, dramatically different events with the Otus. I have the Coastal Optics 60, the ZF 135 and the Hartblei 80 to compare the Otus images to, so I'll have a reasonable base from which to form an opinion, I think. Lloyd just revisited the Hartblei 80, which is fairly rare and certainly not represented in forums very often. It has German made Zeiss glass.

--Dan



Samuli Vahonen
Registered: Jul 16, 2003
Total Posts: 1892
Country: Finland

RiverGuy wrote:
Samuli,

I won't know for a few days, maybe even a few weeks, how I'll do with the Otus. That it is a fabulous lens is already proven with images from the prototypes on the Zeiss website. For a lens this expensive and innovative, I cannot imagine anyone trying to judge it just by the images posted in forums. That's important, but the core information provided in Lloyd Chamber's paid review is worth the price many times over. I always use his reviews as my base, then go looking for images in the forums, photo websites and elsewhere. There is even a condensed mini review Lloyd did of the Otus that is free on the Zeiss website.

Check back on my website by Monday. I plan on doing three separate, dramatically different events with the Otus. I have the Coastal Optics 60, the ZF 135 and the Hartblei 80 to compare the Otus images to, so I'll have a reasonable base from which to form an opinion, I think. Lloyd just revisited the Hartblei 80, which is fairly rare and certainly not represented in forums very often. It has German made Zeiss glass.

--Dan

Dan, I have read about 1000 times the Lloyd's review, but for reason or another this time his review did only have only few images, which were useful for me. I'm almost always more interested about overall look, lens characteristics and specially bokeh behaviour (the Achilles’ heel of Zeiss ZE/ZF lenses is the bokeh behaviour in corners due to too small lens barrels - a feature which I sometimes demonstrate so people looking here understand what they are buying) than the pixel level sharpness - for understanding these I have found over the years that images posted to various treads in FM alt forum is the best source.

Specially images of posters, who's style I know and also understand their post processing style, are very illuminating. Once I get to home I'm going to study your image posts from last x years and then review your samples again to get deeper understanding.

--
Samuli



cputeq
Registered: Jun 25, 2008
Total Posts: 5544
Country: United States

So here's a question for you Zeiss guys and gals:

I have an A7 coming in soon and I think I'm going to want to get a ~50mm with "character". FE 55 might be a choice, but I'm not sure it'll have any sort of "character".

I've looked at the ZM 50/1.5 Sonnar and it seems to render nicely (for me). Is there anything else I'm overlooking? Is the Sonnar really worth the $1200 it commands?



Dpedraza
Registered: Jan 08, 2013
Total Posts: 1380
Country: United States

D600 Zeiss 21mm 2.8




D800 Zeiss 50mm 1.4



RiverGuy
Registered: Jan 04, 2009
Total Posts: 108
Country: United States

Dpedraza,

Love that 2nd image with the 50 1.4. And the courage to stay in low light, processing and all.

--Dan



RiverGuy
Registered: Jan 04, 2009
Total Posts: 108
Country: United States

Samuli,

There will be a number of new images in my Otus gallery in a few hours. The weekend looks to be good, with good light, so there should be some revealing Otus results by Sunday night.

The images I put up earlier are by no means representative. I was jammed indoors in museum light. Much better stuff to follow. At least I hope so.

Dan



johnahill
Registered: Jan 08, 2006
Total Posts: 3213
Country: United Kingdom

Bob - great bridge shots
Dpedraza - Love that shot with the ZE21, great colours and light.

Here's an old one from me re-processed, ZE21 with about 1/3 crop off the bottom.



wiseguy010
Registered: Mar 08, 2009
Total Posts: 830
Country: Netherlands

RiverGuy wrote:
Dpedraza,

Love that 2nd image with the 50 1.4. And the courage to stay in low light, processing and all.

--Dan


Yes, it is really nice.



edwardkaraa
Registered: Sep 27, 2004
Total Posts: 9077
Country: Thailand

Wonderful!

alkanphel wrote:
5D2 + ZE 100MP


GBTB 13 by alkanphel, on Flickr


GBTB 15 by alkanphel, on Flickr


GBTB 14 by alkanphel, on Flickr




dubaiphil
Registered: Jun 10, 2009
Total Posts: 972
Country: United Arab Emirates

A little bit more abandoned village action with the 2/35 Distagon:




























Samuli Vahonen
Registered: Jul 16, 2003
Total Posts: 1892
Country: Finland

dubaiphil, nothing against your color works, but your B&W work seems to be always more interesting - great set! Do you just turn down saturation or use some fancier way to do B&W?



RiverGuy wrote:
There will be a number of new images in my Otus gallery in a few hours. The weekend looks to be good, with good light, so there should be some revealing Otus results by Sunday night.

Thanks for the new samples. Do you happen to have sample of anything shoot from 3-10 meters (9-30 feet) background starts from subject and continues further. I would like to understand relation of in-focus-target contrast vs. blurred background bokeh contrast&structure of the Otus.

Hard to explain, but I like VERY much of my current favorite 50mm (ZE Planar 1.4), and when closed down to f/2.5-2.8 it's "perfect"; optically everything on focus plane is "perfect" and bokeh issues have almost vanished. However I would not mind getting same results at f/2 or even f/1.4 - this is why I'm interested about Otus. If Otus just draws perfectly but doesn't have any character, I'm not sure if it's for me.

ZE-series lenses (majority at least) tends to give nice contrast in-focus and lower contrast in bokeh, which is very nice "feature". Based on samples this far in-focus and bokeh contrast seems to be same, which I find quite weird for Zeiss, but also most of the samples shoot by you and other lucky ones with the new Otus have been f/1.4, and due to too small lens barrels etc. this "feature" doesn't usually work wide open very well.

Hard to explain, but I would like to see some example image in situations like below (all f/2.8 with ZE Planar 1.4) [apologies if I repost some images, can't remember did I post these in 2012]:






Also the first f/2.8 image from 1.4/35 on last page is good example of this rendering style I'm looking for.

Samuli

PS. This is meaningless struggle, I try to find reason to not buy Otus and I'm pretty sure I end up getting it anyway...



JaKo
Registered: Aug 08, 2011
Total Posts: 1770
Country: Canada







Swinging between 'L' and 'Z'

@ f/2.8






JaKo
Registered: Aug 08, 2011
Total Posts: 1770
Country: Canada

MP50 wide open:







Ronny Olsson
Registered: Jun 24, 2012
Total Posts: 4606
Country: Sweden

Great set Samuli and Jack



GSteve
Registered: Jul 04, 2005
Total Posts: 254
Country: United States

Near Mt. Ida, Arkansas, just past prime time. 13 shot pano, Canon 5D MKII, Zeiss 21/2.8



akul
Registered: May 30, 2010
Total Posts: 2383
Country: United States

MP 100



dubaiphil
Registered: Jun 10, 2009
Total Posts: 972
Country: United Arab Emirates

Great sets, Samuli and Jack.

@ Samuli - thanks - I don't have great colour to work with here in Dubai, but good contrast, shadow and textures. Nik Software Color Efex and Silver Efex for the conversions



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