ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)
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canerino
Registered: May 28, 2005
Total Posts: 11104
Country: United States

carstenw wrote:


If you read the thread to the end, he added that he had forgotten that he extended the foreground via cloning. This is why the ground looks so weird. There was originally too little foreground under the kid's feet.

I am not sure that it is fake beyond that. The depth of field is a bit odd, but so is the dof of the 50MP, and I don't know this lens. I don't like the look particularly though. As Samuli says, it looks like a cardboard person in front of a blurry backdrop, nothing inspiring there, and the colours look fake or wrong. I have never been that impressed with the photos I have seen from the 85L, but I am careful about saying that, since it has so many fans.



Thank you Carstenw. You got it exactly right. I am not concerned about people liking the image or not (that's the fun part about photography), but I do not appreciate being called a liar as others have done.

It's a weird thing. I'm a long standing member here with a long history of posting, helping, and sharing. Why wouldnt someone just hit the PM button before calling me a liar?



canerino
Registered: May 28, 2005
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Country: United States

Samuli Vahonen wrote:
bushwacker wrote:

Hello Zeiss people,

Just one question is this the proper way to bokeh? or a 3D? seems like the Kid been copy and pasted. Don't you think? it looks unatural.

here it is:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/2035384

Not sure are you seriously asking... Quite obvious that it's PhotoShop result not real photo, would require lobotomy to believe this is real image;
1) kid has DOF worth of f/2.8-3.5 (the left arm in focus, which is 20-30cm further away compared to right side of face) while background has ultra shallow DOF
2) vignetting only occurs in background - real vignetting would also affect to kid's legs

Samuli


Sorry Sam, wrong again. Ask any questions you'd like. I'm here to answer them.



darbo
Registered: Mar 10, 2012
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Craig and Ronny,

The flowers and bugs look amazing; great work witht the 100MP!



kwoodard
Registered: Aug 04, 2012
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Ronny _Olsson wrote:

Zeiss Makro-Planar T* 100mm f/2 Vivitar Nikon AT-3/AI Extension Tube by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr

Zeiss Makro-Planar T* 100mm f/2 ZF by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr

Awesome!



Ronny Olsson
Registered: Jun 24, 2012
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Country: Sweden

Thanks Jim,Darbo and Kevin



user222
Registered: Sep 13, 2007
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Country: United States

thanks guys!



JaKo
Registered: Aug 08, 2011
Total Posts: 1801
Country: Canada

Ronny, are you swinging towards 'Naked Lunch' world with your recent shots?























JaKo
Registered: Aug 08, 2011
Total Posts: 1801
Country: Canada

Maktenian take







Samuli Vahonen
Registered: Jul 16, 2003
Total Posts: 1892
Country: Finland

canerino wrote:
I'm a long standing member here with a long history of posting, helping, and sharing. Why wouldnt someone just hit the PM button before calling me a liar?

Well, people hiding behind nicknames... How in earth anybody could have known that you are same nickname xyz here and same xyz in some other forum? And why to bother even check since the nickname doesn't sound unique? Sorry, don't trust even a drop to people with just nicknames unless they have been posting long time to threads I have been following up. I don't recall ever seen your posts of Fred Miranda, so you must be posting to other forums/threads what I'm following.


canerino wrote:
Sorry Sam, wrong again. Ask any questions you'd like. I'm here to answer them.

Considering that we don't really know how image is processed could you please provide dropbox (or similar) link to the RAW via PM or to temporary email address I created for this case: fredmiranda.canerino85l@vahonen.com

Originally it was claimed to be non processed. Then it came out that the foreground was photoshopped to the photo (photo was artificially extended by cloning) and dodging and burning, and then also "sponging" whatever that is. So there really is no way of knowing what has been done to the photo - also I don't expect you or anybody to remember how they processed some photo ages ago. Now I'm reading dpreview thread for first time and you had posted real image there, but it's no longer available, just a question mark icon indicating URL not available, so there is also no reference to non-photoshopped image.


I have shoot thousands of frames with 85/1.2LmkII, thou mostly nature, not so much people. And with web resizing processes I'm familiar * it would never be possible to have both arms in focus @ f/1.2 at that size web presentation with processing claimed to be done to photo (extending foreground, dodging burning, sponge to shoe of which none affects apparent DOF). As the photo is presented it looks result of focus stacking since the subject has long DOF but background is blurred - in small websize image this can be done without focus stacking via sharpening (either purposely in PS or using weird resizing method).

* from standard bicubic in PS to all kind of advanced step sharpenings and processes based to advanced resizing algorithm like Lanczos - but outside few tests I have never outputted webresized output from Adobe Lightroom or Apple Aperture since both produce results I can't personally accept, so I'm not familiar if their resizing algorithm affects to apparent DOF in the websized output.





Apologies about off-topic...
Ronny, have been enjoying your makro images in last pages. I can't get that close to animals without scaring them away - or then I just don't have the patience.
Manu, liked your ZF21 beach landscape few pages ago.
Grenache, your "Whisk" (personally I would have preferred straightened horizon and non tilting trees) and "Two is a crowd" IR images were very nice. Nice to see that 15mm works so well in IR.
JaKo, 50MP rendering is very flat - the woman in 2nd photo looks like cardboard and very flat and 2D

Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 2.8/21 @ f/11, 3.2s, 5DmkII@ISO100, Polarizer


Samuli



JaKo
Registered: Aug 08, 2011
Total Posts: 1801
Country: Canada

Samuli Vahonen wrote: JaKo, 50MP rendering is very flat - the woman in 2nd photo looks like cardboard and very flat and 2D

You're right! She must be on some fiber diet or I used Leica instead of Zeiss lens



Ronny Olsson
Registered: Jun 24, 2012
Total Posts: 4699
Country: Sweden

Thanks

Great set Jako
Samuli: Is a mystery to me how you get out all the details in your tree pictures
And then such pressure in the picture. Great work!



philber
Registered: May 21, 2008
Total Posts: 9175
Country: France

Ronny _Olsson wrote:
Thanks

Great set Jako
Samuli: Is a mystery to me how you get out all the details in your tree pictures
And then such pressure in the picture. Great work!


+1!!!



JaKo
Registered: Aug 08, 2011
Total Posts: 1801
Country: Canada

Thank you Ronny. It's nice to see you go back to your 100MP once i a while

Couple more from 'Power Generators' series:












philber
Registered: May 21, 2008
Total Posts: 9175
Country: France

Another great set, Jako! The first one in particular, in faux b&W, is very powerful!



JaKo
Registered: Aug 08, 2011
Total Posts: 1801
Country: Canada

Thank you philber, much appreciated and encouraging!



hijazist
Registered: Sep 14, 2012
Total Posts: 2929
Country: United States

A couple from Louisiana-Texas borders. 21 2.8 ZF



U.C.
Registered: May 25, 2008
Total Posts: 703
Country: Netherlands

@JaKo: great serie! Lot of depth in the shots.
@hijazist: nice colours in the first shot. I like the composition of the foreground and background in the 2nd shot.

Zeiss MP 100/2











Blackout
Registered: Aug 06, 2011
Total Posts: 40
Country: France

Beautiful work.
Jako, I really like your Power Generators series !

A few pictures from the last days, shot with the 135mm Apo Sonnar.


Staring by Florent Chouffot, on Flickr



Large fly by Florent Chouffot, on Flickr



Popping out of the field by Florent Chouffot, on Flickr



philber
Registered: May 21, 2008
Total Posts: 9175
Country: France

Great work, Florent! In particular, your second and third shots. I am not so sure about the first one, where the very tight neck crop makes this picture uncomfotably close to a guillotine effect. But that's just me...



Blackout
Registered: Aug 06, 2011
Total Posts: 40
Country: France

Thanks philber ! I see what you mean about the first shot - this didn't strike me indeed.

The following picture will probably be more comfortable to look at




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