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Dim.ka_ Registered: Apr 30, 2008 Total Posts: 388 Country: Latvia |
Ok, for those of you who ever wonder what would be if we take really fast lens and use it on the larger sensor area ![]() ![]() ![]() At the moment, this convertion is in the middle stage and the far focus is about 3 meters - need to trim Mamiya mirror and position the lens in its mount a bit deeper inside the mirror box, in order to achieve infinity focus and need to make a new aperture control lever or ring. I just want to know, would this lens cover the larger sensor area and what drawing it will show. The result really amazed me in terms of double character of the lens. It could be more pronounced then the Oly OM 55 1.2 and it could defocus the background like 200mm 1.8 So here are just test snaps handheld so it is possible that there are some mis-focused and out of focus objects (I have already bought microprism screen and will install it when the mirror will be trimmed) Mamiya 645 AFD + Canon FD85mm f1.2 wideopen Velvia 50 ![]() ![]() ![]() bigger size ![]() ![]() wideopen Kodak ektar 100 (120) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() stopped down arround f4-5.6 ![]() ![]() check the same scene with fast normal primes here samples from the 50mm group So here is 55-58 group double click to enlarge ![]() http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/763806 |
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joeisayo Registered: Apr 15, 2004 Total Posts: 512 Country: United States |
The images look very similar to my 85L II with an extension tube at the closest focusing range. |
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Dim.ka_ Registered: Apr 30, 2008 Total Posts: 388 Country: Latvia |
Do not forget the field of view is like 50mm lens on 35 format, but the defocus if you have 50mm f0.7-0.8 |
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pentaxshooter Registered: Jun 23, 2007 Total Posts: 225 Country: United States |
This is beyond awesome. I would have never expected that to cover the 6x4.5 frame. Tooo awesome. |
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wayne seltzer Registered: Dec 22, 2007 Total Posts: 2938 Country: United States |
Great job Dimtry! |
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ulrikft Registered: Apr 17, 2008 Total Posts: 2316 Country: Norway |
Very cool indeed! |
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sirimiri Registered: Dec 10, 2007 Total Posts: 2430 Country: United States |
Impressive amount of work. I bet it would make engineers who worked on both pieces of equipment happy, to know they someone is tinkering with their work, adapting to new and heretofore unthought of uses. "Homebrew" as they say. |
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ovredal73 Registered: Jun 21, 2005 Total Posts: 2476 Country: Norway |
You never stop amazing me Dmitry - that is a feat for the books. Wow. |
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GoGoGoGo Registered: Apr 18, 2006 Total Posts: 417 Country: United States |
Wonderful look in these images, beautiful really beautiful. |
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Ed Sawyer Registered: May 08, 2007 Total Posts: 1977 Country: United States |
it is impressive it covers the image circle, which must be what, about 75mm? |
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fourfa Registered: Oct 24, 2005 Total Posts: 2281 Country: N/A |
I always suspected from the total lack of falloff at f1.2 (I'm ALWAYS adding vignetting with my EFII lens) that it has a much-larger-than-35mm image circle. Very interesting! |
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RyanFlynn Registered: Dec 15, 2005 Total Posts: 2197 Country: United States |
freaking awesome. ~50mm ~f/0.7? yes, please! |
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deepbluejh Registered: Feb 20, 2005 Total Posts: 5229 Country: United States |
I'm curious as to how much frame coverage you're getting. |
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Dim.ka_ Registered: Apr 30, 2008 Total Posts: 388 Country: Latvia |
There is one trick - it is possible to use this combo if you remove the last lens element - which is the element of floating design and it is very useful in 35mm format. In this case you have 100% coverage without any sign of the vignetting wide open. ![]() |
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Dim.ka_ Registered: Apr 30, 2008 Total Posts: 388 Country: Latvia |
So finally finished - have shaved the mirror about 7mm - really hard task, the mirror is thick and have aluminium base plate. |
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Dim.ka_ Registered: Apr 30, 2008 Total Posts: 388 Country: Latvia |
Here is something between f1.4-f1.8 ![]() |
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Dim.ka_ Registered: Apr 30, 2008 Total Posts: 388 Country: Latvia |
wideopen ![]() ![]() |
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Graham Mitchell Registered: Jul 14, 2005 Total Posts: 3697 Country: United Kingdom |
Wow, very interesting indeed. Makes me want to try this with my digital back on the Mamiya! Please let me know if you ever bring this kit to Tallinn. Would be great to see it in person and meet such a passionate gear head |
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ovredal73 Registered: Jun 21, 2005 Total Posts: 2476 Country: Norway |
Wow, you really need a specific point for sharpness reference or else the whole image might appear soft at these extraordinarily wide apertures. Last couple of shots almost feels like a lensbaby. This stuff is never-seen-before material - very cool, Dmitry. |
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Ed Sawyer Registered: May 08, 2007 Total Posts: 1977 Country: United States |
Wild stuff! It looks like the front-bokeh (foreground) has strong biotar-type characteristics, very swirly, while the rear-bokeh is a lot like OM 55/1.2 with a heavy dose of cat-eye type stuff showing too. Very cool! |
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biotar Registered: Mar 06, 2008 Total Posts: 318 Country: Netherlands |
Now there is a conversion which i haven't even fantasised about. How did you come up with it. |
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Dim.ka_ Registered: Apr 30, 2008 Total Posts: 388 Country: Latvia |
Graham, thanks i defenetly let you know if i go to Tallinn. Do you have mamiya adapter for your DIGITAL BACK? I quess the best result will be with Phase One P65+ since it is almost the full frame back and i really want to find out what the defocus would be with the such huge image capture area. |
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Dim.ka_ Registered: Apr 30, 2008 Total Posts: 388 Country: Latvia |
So few thoughts ![]() here is more farer focusing distance wideopen/ kodak e100g ![]() |
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Graham Mitchell Registered: Jul 14, 2005 Total Posts: 3697 Country: United Kingdom |
Dim.ka_ wrote: |
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Dim.ka_ Registered: Apr 30, 2008 Total Posts: 388 Country: Latvia |
Thanks Graham for your kind offer. ![]() ![]() |