The first really good 50D thread managed to get locked. Here are the leaked spec's. Let's discuss, but keep the discussion on photography.

1.6x crop
15.1MP --- 4752 x 3168 pixels
JPEG´s + RAW + sRAW1 + sRAW2
Dust Reduction
Digic IV
Auto Brightness Processing
95% viewfinder .97 magnification
9 point af (All Cross Type)
AF Fine Tuning [AF microadjustment]
ISO 100-3200 Expanded 6400-12800
Auto ISO 100-1600
LCD VGA type 920,000
6.3 FPS (high speed) 3fps (low speed)
Buffer: 16 RAW - 60 JPG - 10 RAW+JPG
Pop-Up flash (13/43 at ISO 100)
UDMA Support
Camera User settings C1 & C2
Shutter Actuations: 100,000

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*** UPDATE ... LINKS BELOW ARE NO LONGER WORKING ***

ADDED (links to a COPY of the original Canon site info, I provided Google translation from the original Chinese):

Full Spec's: CLICK

Sample Images: CLICK ... here is a link to the missing landscape photo: CLICK

Camera Front: CLICK

Camera Back: CLICK

Overview: CLICK

All of the original links to the dup site: CLICK ... CLICK ... CLICK ... CLICK

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ADDED: Since the original links were taken down, here is some of the information from others that captured and reposted the info.

Here is a link with the specs + pictures of camera: CLICK

Sample images ... Landscape ... High ISO ... Portrait ... Night Image

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It's OFFICIAL ... DPReview: LINK






Edited by UCSB on Aug 25, 2008 at 08:12 PM GMT

Am I the only one that's not happy with the 15mp on the 50D?

The image quality is surely going to be great. Canon are very good at this. But is 15mp better than 12mp? And how much better is 15mp compared to 10mp?

The 50D is nothing more than a 40D with 5 extra megapixels. Is this what the future holds for the xxD line?

I was following that other thread very close. D'Oh. Anyways, other than too many MP, it sounds pretty good to me. The upgraded LCD, the higher ISO, UDMA support, oh yea.

for certain uses such as stock photography the extra 5 megapixels are very good. If the 100-3200 ISO means that the camera has gotten better noise then that is also a Very Good Thing (tm)

well, if the specs are indeed correct or similar, this sounds just like the camera i am going to upgrade to from my xti
if canon manages to produce a camera that does not suffer from af-malfunctions and such, i am pretty sure this is going to be a great product!

Did anyone get a better translation on the "In-Body IS" text ... if this can be done correctly, I would welcome this as a very usable feature with my prime lenses.

The only two things that are keeping me from buying a 40D is that the 50D might have the Micro Adjustment tool and a higher resolution LCD.

I doubt IQ will be significantly better

IMHO the 920.000 pixel LCD has got to be a major improvement. It cancels one of the worst features of my 40D, its weak display. Microadjustement also looks promising, as does Digic IV, which should take care of offering at least as good noise characteristics as Digic III despite the higher pixel count, which then becomes another bonus.
With 4 significant improvements, this looks like enough to warrant a new camera, and the spec sheet compares well with D300. Except, as is normal with middle-of-the-line products, the key question to decide if it is "interesting" or not is price. And there my guess is that 50D should still be cheaper than D300, which sports a more sophisticated viewfinder and AF. But at the price point where 40D was before they dropped the price, 50D should be a very good seller. Unless (or until) of course, D90...:-)

if there's going to be a 40D successor in the immediate future, it's likelier to be more of the 40Dn ilk than 50D (call it what you will).

canon might give minor tweaks to the 40D, such as the 12MP sensor from the 450D, but 15MP and ISO12800? i'm skeptical.




Edited by abam on Aug 22, 2008 at 10:15 AM GMT

shutter actuations just 100k?
didn't the 30D have like 150k?

pls stop these rumor threads

I could swear the 30D and the 40D are 100,000 actuations, as well.
I'd rather they put in a souped up 12.2 MP sensor ala Rebel XSi, though.

Auto Brightness Processing, is it the same as sony's DRO?

about in body IS according to this http://photo.net/canon-eos-digital-camera-forum/00QaS5
it was just a case of error in translation. so no in body IS

morphez wrote:
Auto Brightness Processing, is it the same as sony's DRO?

about in body IS according to this http://photo.net/canon-eos-digital-camera-forum/00QaS5
it was just a case of error in translation. so no in body IS

Thanks, but disappointing.

Hot tip
no in built IS...

andrew81 wrote:
Hot tip
no in built IS...

UCSB has it right, translation was wrong. Canon won't offer in-body for a long time if ever unless it's a demanded feature and Nikon does so too.

Given that this looks like a pretty good real leak it might help if the members whose sole reason for entering what they know to be a rumour threads is to be negative would just keep out of it?

I want to know what people who are disappointed expect on a prosumer camera. The 40D already has more features and such for a prosumer body than any other prosumer body Canon has ever produced. Heck, my 30D has everything that I need to make the images I like to take, so honestly, this looks very nice. If they managed a new sensor tech or a processing algorithm that can yield quality images at ISO 12800, that'd be HUGE. What exactly, do you want? And if you say 45 point AF and weather sealing, you're dreaming, as there would then be essentially no differentiation between the prosumer line and the pro line. (it's one of the reasons I think the Nikon D700 was a bad idea...there's no practically no reason to buy the D3...they must have destroyed D3 sales with that camera.)

The screen on the 40D is really bad though, at a recent wedding I had a 2nd shooter using one. He looked enviously at my 5D's and said that my screens were far better than his. I'd never seen a 40D before and looking at the size of the screen on it was in disbelief, couldn't understand how it could be worse. Then he put pics up on the screen - ouch, same pixels stretched over too much space. Kinda like using 800X600 on your 21" LCD...

I think you're wrong jman, I don't know of any pro's who were looking for pro bodies who are buying D700's over D3's. Yes the wedding market is buying them but the pro market who need a D3 type body are buying it for the extra shutter life, they shoot a lot and the built in grip which is apparently far more ergonomic. Maybe they're buying D700's as backup but if Nikon is making the money and I assume the profit margin is pretty much the same, why not, it's the same bottom line.

About ISO ... The limit is ISO 3200 native ... Expansions to 6400 & 12800 .... If you read the Geoff Costellos´s post ... these could be combined (High ISO) with the use of sRAW1 & sRAW2 to get the binning 2x1 and 4x1 and get noise reduction ... but at the cost of pixel resolution... tricky but effective. I suspect that because now appears a second sRAW format what casually corresponds with two High ISO extensions .... if you see back to the 40D for comparison,

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Edited by Stunnaz on Aug 22, 2008 at 05:28 AM GMT

Are we not needing 15 point autofocus expandable to 25/45 to be nikon equivance? do we all feel 40D is sufficiently fast....as compared to new nikons?

Pixel Perfect wrote:
andrew81 wrote:
Hot tip
no in built IS...

UCSB has it right, translation was wrong. Canon won't offer in-body for a long time if ever unless it's a demanded feature and Nikon does so too.

Nah! Nikon want to push their uber expensive lenses, and take their time releasing them. Nope, I'm just hoping Sony can really get their act together and really release some good lenses and are more realistically priced. Doubt it though.

philber wrote:
IMHO the 920.000 pixel LCD has got to be a major improvement. It cancels one of the worst features of my 40D, its weak display. Microadjustement also looks promising, as does Digic IV, which should take care of offering at least as good noise characteristics as Digic III despite the higher pixel count, which then becomes another bonus.
With 4 significant improvements, this looks like enough to warrant a new camera, and the spec sheet compares well with D300. Except, as is normal with middle-of-the-line products, the key question to decide if it is "interesting" or not is price. And there my guess is that 50D should still be cheaper than D300, which sports a more sophisticated viewfinder and AF. But at the price point where 40D was before they dropped the price, 50D should be a very good seller. Unless (or until) of course, D90...:-)

If this new LCD is true, lets hope there is more magnification and much improved method of zooming in and out, ala Nikon,

When Sony do release the A900 it might well be interesting, might buy one with a Zeiss 50mm (I assume a 50mm is to come) just to use for a specific project. If the pricing will be as aggressive as rumour says it will. I won't need it to be a pro spec camera but that is a lot of resolution. Cheap medium format, my Mamiya 645 Pro never had multiple AF points, weather sealing and 8fps either!

15.1 mp, 214pixels/mm I am afraid the lenses can't keep up.