Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel
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Ryan Harris
Registered: Jun 02, 2013
Total Posts: 63
Country: United States

Steve, I followed your advice and re-did the B&W shot. It is definitely better this time, but I'm still working on the fuselage as I'm not quite happy with it. Let me know your thoughts on this effort if you don't mind.



FlyingPhotog
Registered: May 09, 2008
Total Posts: 4368
Country: United States

Storm Warning...
RAF Typhoon hits Vegas!



FlyingPhotog
Registered: May 09, 2008
Total Posts: 4368
Country: United States

Ryan Harris wrote:
Steve, I followed your advice and re-did the B&W shot. It is definitely better this time, but I'm still working on the fuselage as I'm not quite happy with it. Let me know your thoughts on this effort if you don't mind.



Ryan, are you familiar at all with what the various color filters do in a B&W conversion?

This article is some pretty good reading on the subject:
http://www.photographymad.com/pages/view/using-coloured-filters-in-black-and-white-photography

Your image of Betty Jane would benefit from using some color filters to enhance the contrast. Most notably the sky and the red stripes.



astrobrian
Registered: Sep 27, 2012
Total Posts: 820
Country: United States

Just toying around with a vintage look tonight. C&C free for all on these.

And Ryan,+1 for more contrast on Betty Jane. She's not washed out per se, but its definitely light.



FlyingPhotog
Registered: May 09, 2008
Total Posts: 4368
Country: United States

It's the little things with me and I just love the paperclip rust stain on the Mustang Brian!



stevezzzz
Registered: Aug 01, 2010
Total Posts: 3176
Country: United States

FlyingPhotog wrote:
Ryan Harris wrote:
Steve, I followed your advice and re-did the B&W shot. It is definitely better this time, but I'm still working on the fuselage as I'm not quite happy with it. Let me know your thoughts on this effort if you don't mind.



Ryan, are you familiar at all with what the various color filters do in a B&W conversion?

This article is some pretty good reading on the subject:
http://www.photographymad.com/pages/view/using-coloured-filters-in-black-and-white-photography

Your image of Betty Jane would benefit from using some color filters to enhance the contrast. Most notably the sky and the red stripes.


Does that advice sound familiar, Ryan? Great minds think alike, they say...



astrobrian
Registered: Sep 27, 2012
Total Posts: 820
Country: United States

FlyingPhotog wrote:
It's the little things with me and I just love the paperclip rust stain on the Mustang Brian!

Thanks, it's from an addon called Retrographer.



stevezzzz
Registered: Aug 01, 2010
Total Posts: 3176
Country: United States

The last two pages just blow. me. away. Well done, all!



FlyingPhotog
Registered: May 09, 2008
Total Posts: 4368
Country: United States

For those who may not totally have a handle on the Color Filters Vs Black and White thing, here are some examples using only a B&W layer in Photoshop.

As Shot In Color


Blue Filter (Note the stripes get darker but the sky gets lighter)


Red Filter (note the sky gets darker but the stripes get lighter)


Blue Filter with Red pulled all the way down (Note black stripes but white sky)


Red Filter with Blue pulled all the way down (Note rich black sky but flat stripes)


Now, when you step into the world of software like Nik Silver Effex, you get finer control over which colors you affect and to what degree while doing a B&W conversion. For a shot like this where there are bold primary colors, some layers would be very handy in order to massage the Blue sky and Red stripes as individual elements.

Oh, and then there are those Yellow stripes too...



FlyingPhotog
Registered: May 09, 2008
Total Posts: 4368
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...and the home of the brave.



Jan-Arie
Registered: Dec 24, 2005
Total Posts: 3494
Country: Netherlands

Thanks Mark and Gerard for the advice I think im going to look for a new one i have a almost brand new 400 f/5.6 that i would like to trade in so maybe the cost won't be that high but i have to take it in for a review and advice stay tuned for more news.



mrkyle
Registered: Jul 06, 2008
Total Posts: 594
Country: United States

Jay,

The whole series has been great (as usual ) This has got to be the best photo of the B2 that I have ever seen. The stealthy paint scheme usually makes these guys flat and featureless. You really brought out the detail here.


FlyingPhotog wrote:
Espíritu de Oro
(Golden Spirit)




JWilsonphoto
Registered: Jan 16, 2002
Total Posts: 15891
Country: United States

Good Morning from FL330. Dismal. drizzling and 32, but, as usual The Creator's view is a better one...........



JWilsonphoto
Registered: Jan 16, 2002
Total Posts: 15891
Country: United States

This assignment worked out well because there's a pristine TF a couple of hours from the location, and it just hit the market. Hoping to give it a once over in person.



JWilsonphoto
Registered: Jan 16, 2002
Total Posts: 15891
Country: United States

Jay, I think you just gave me an idea that will eliminate dust cloning forever.............. I just need to get my clients to fall in love with "vintage".



yipDog
Registered: Mar 06, 2012
Total Posts: 127
Country: United States

JWilsonphoto wrote:
Jay, I think you just gave me an idea that will eliminate dust cloning forever.............. I just need to get my clients to fall in love with "vintage".


The "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" philosophy! Think all of us with 1Dx's should start sending pics to Canon with extra dust spots! ha ha!



XHawkeye
Registered: Dec 27, 2002
Total Posts: 275
Country: United States

The OV-10 pictures reminded me of a very good book (wish I can remember the name, couldn't find it on Amazon) by a OV-10 pilot. Used a grease pencil to write, on the windshield, the pertinent info (flight numbers/call signs, fuel load, ordnance & etc) because once the shooting started there was no time to look anywhere but out the window.

The stress of putting the smoke in the proper location when you can't see the location of the unit being overrun. The colonel (in the command ship) was yelling to drop the smoke here, while the solider was yelling drop it in a completely different location and while the F4s are down to a bomb each and 2 minutes of fuel.

Long story short, nothing like being the middle man.



Wrei
Registered: Aug 01, 2008
Total Posts: 2176
Country: United States

I saw Randy painted the Mig. I wonder if he had any body work done?







Colin Giersberg
Registered: Jun 01, 2008
Total Posts: 2059
Country: United States

I saw Moose Peterson using this in a video this morning for cleaning the camera's sensor.


http://photographylife.com/product/sensor-gel-stick



Jan-Arie
Registered: Dec 24, 2005
Total Posts: 3494
Country: Netherlands

Ray I thought i saw that he did some structural work do you have FB?
yes you have silly me

Look here and scroll true the photo's

https://www.facebook.com/randywball?fref=ts



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