Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel
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yipDog
Registered: Mar 06, 2012
Total Posts: 148
Country: United States

And a Stearman
(same gear, settings…except f8)



yipDog
Registered: Mar 06, 2012
Total Posts: 148
Country: United States

And a Starduster…to complete my biplane trio! There were 3 other bipes but these were the coolest!
same gear and settings as Stearman



JWilsonphoto
Registered: Jan 16, 2002
Total Posts: 18983
Country: United States

Good analysis Nick! The verdict on P1 is pending, but I don't know if they have any better sales people than Blad in the final analysis. In the heavy equipment business we had marketing people and we had "order takers". Some people thought that Caterpillar only had order takers because our equipment was so superior to the competition. They were, of course, mistaken. Our equipment was superior, but it was also 60% more expensive than anyone else's. Every once in a while you had a client who just wouldn't consider buying anything that wasn't Cat, in those cases one was an order taker. In most situations, the client needed to be persuaded that there was at least a 60% benefit to choosing our product, so you had to know your stuff and believe in what you were selling.

Hasselblad lost their sales people a long, long time ago. Like many companies, they read and believed too much of their own press. When Rob Morgan (my rep) and Ernst Wildi faded from the scene, all that was left seemed to be people waiting around to do you a favor and let you buy their product. Anyone in sales knows that signals the beginning of the end. Certainly Blad doing that closed system thing was more evidence of an increasingly unmerited arrogance, mixed with a blatant disregard for the client's needs. More of, "we're Hasselblad, be happy we will even speak with you". I'm a good example, for decades I had five or six bodies, a dozen 12/24 backs, 20 lenses, accessories out the wazoo. Hasselblad regularly serviced my bodies and backs, mostly preventative maintenance, especially in the backs to prevent that light seal weakness they exhibited. I was very well known in the Hasselblad inner circles. When Rob retired and Professor Ernst left the company, no one ever contacted me again to keep up the relationship. Never got a call to coax me into Hasselblad digital, just dead silence. Few photographers had the breath and depth of their product I did, I would have considered me a sitting duck as a prospect for upgrading. In fact, a few years ago I initiated some dialogue with them and they repeatedly dropped the ball.

We'll see about P1, at these prices I have no intention of jumping in without a lot of confidence that it is the right thing to do, both in the product performance area and the support department. My experience tells me that if you can't get a company excited about selling their product to you, their support staff will be exponentially less interested in you. While I can get myself stoked about a camera that captures 200mb files with 13 stops of dynamic range, looking objectively at my market, my clients are very pleased with the product I produce for them. I constantly over deliver, as does my chosen equipment. Adding medium format digital will be something I do more for myself than for my clients, it's that desire to stretch to the next level of quality. Sure the clients will notice it and hopefully be impressed, but only incrementally. I think most of us here will agree that we strive for the end product we do, largely for our own satisfaction, and I think that is a very honorable motivation. When you go wading out into the surf, you're not doing it to make our jaws drop (certainly we love the accolades from people we respect), but you are doing it to one up your expectations.

The ball is firmly in Phase One's court now. I don't expect any special treatment, just a supplier who is confident in their product, and who is so excited about it, and getting it into the hands of a new client, that they can't wait to tell me about it and demonstrate why I can't go on shooting without one. If they care that much, I'm interested, if they don't, I don't. Weebeesee.

I like your "all over you like a bad rash" approach, it tells people you believe in what your selling. I'm confident in the product I am going to deliver to a client, but to this very day they can see that I am excited and enthusiastic about being able to create that product uniquely for them. That's the clincher, indifference rarely inspires confidence, particularly in a sales situation.

As far as your work, it's beautiful. I hope one of these days I can wade out into the surf with you and create something breathtaking.



JWilsonphoto
Registered: Jan 16, 2002
Total Posts: 18983
Country: United States

Wonderful Rob, just wonderful! Would you guys send me a case of that Arizona water?



yipDog
Registered: Mar 06, 2012
Total Posts: 148
Country: United States

Ha! Thanks Jim! Really appreciate the feedback!



stevezzzz
Registered: Aug 01, 2010
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How about one more stereo pair, before I go out and brave the snow and cold? This is particularly successful in 3-D, I think.



nickjohnson
Registered: Sep 15, 2009
Total Posts: 972
Country: United Kingdom

Dear Jim,

Re “ …... wade out into the surf …..”. I fear that your recent conversation with Sir Donald may have suffered some translation “difficulties”. I must point out that I am a Butler and not a Surf. Further, my training and qualifications do not extend to aquatic activities. Accordingly, should you wish to avail yourself of some wooden board and rubber suit action, please be advised that my services will be limited to serving ice-cream and averting my gaze at the appropriate times.

Now, as for creating something nice (OK then, breathtaking) we need to offer something that you don't get in you own geographical locale. Something that is the essence of what we have up here in the “desolate North East” UK (that's a politicians gaff over here). How about this on the evening of midsummers day?

@ about 22:00hrs we have a sunset behind and to the left of these Fish Houses.




@ about 04:00hrs we have sunrise over the harbour entrance.



Oh, and just to fill in time we have a 40% crescent moon rise @ about 02:00hrs – over the sea.



Unless we are unlucky with full cloud cover, it never gets truly dark at that time of year. Plus plenty of light-painting and star trail opportunities too.



Jeff W.
Registered: Feb 09, 2008
Total Posts: 2408
Country: United States

Wonderful photographs Nick. The first image (i.e. 22:00hrs) is my personal favorite. The soft tonalities you're getting with the winter light is fantastic. Are those lobster traps? Certainly not something we see in Arizona - regardless of the season.



yipDog
Registered: Mar 06, 2012
Total Posts: 148
Country: United States

The Highwing Set
From Coolidge, AZ
1Dx 500mm f4 II
ISO 100 f5 .6ND 1/125







carrg1954
Registered: Jan 31, 2008
Total Posts: 1251
Country: Australia

nice images Nick



nrferguson
Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Total Posts: 2370
Country: United Kingdom

A good start to 2014! Although I have sold quite a number of photos on Alamy over the last two years (usually travel locations) I haven't sold an aircraft photo. Today I made my first sale - the Italian aerobatic team!
Niall



JWilsonphoto
Registered: Jan 16, 2002
Total Posts: 18983
Country: United States

It's funny Nick, experience reveals that there is a tremendous interest in great aviation images, everyone enjoys viewing them, but selling prints is another story entirely. The stock market reflects that to a degree, although my GA/Corporate aviation stock is always in the most downloaded category.



JWilsonphoto
Registered: Jan 16, 2002
Total Posts: 18983
Country: United States

Great images Rob! Did you own a series 1 500/4? I'd love your evaluation of the II in comparison. All of us who own the 1 love it and think it's razor sharp, the images you posted above indicate the II is better by an order of magnitude.



JWilsonphoto
Registered: Jan 16, 2002
Total Posts: 18983
Country: United States

Here's the unvarnished truth.....................



yipDog
Registered: Mar 06, 2012
Total Posts: 148
Country: United States

Thanks! No, actually the 500mm f4 mk2 was my first big lens. Got it in Dec 2012. I also have the 300mm f2.8 Mk2 which I picked up a couple months later.
I have held Jay's 500 and 300 which are mkI's and the weight difference is rather noticeable. Jay and I shoot side by side a lot and IQ-wise I haven't noticed a huge difference but the 1Dmk4 he uses has a higher pixel density and the hands of a master operating it along with his processing expertise. At some point maybe it would be worth putting the lenses on the same body to do a real comparison. Could do with and without TC's, various apertures, and in my studio with test charts, etc.



JWilsonphoto wrote:
Great images Rob! Did you own a series 1 500/4? I'd love your evaluation of the II in comparison. All of us who own the 1 love it and think it's razor sharp, the images you posted above indicate the II is better by an order of magnitude.



FlyingPhotog
Registered: May 09, 2008
Total Posts: 4775
Country: United States

Living in the desert, it's not unusual to see a Bobcat...



FlyingPhotog
Registered: May 09, 2008
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"A mile of road can take you a mile, but a mile of runway can take you anywhere!"



Jeff W.
Registered: Feb 09, 2008
Total Posts: 2408
Country: United States

JWilsonphoto wrote:
It's funny Nick, experience reveals that there is a tremendous interest in great aviation images, everyone enjoys viewing them, but selling prints is another story entirely. The stock market reflects that to a degree, although my GA/Corporate aviation stock is always in the most downloaded category.


I enjoy reading Joe McNally's blog and this mornings post seems appropriate to MA2A's comments about the stock photography market and the vagaries of professional photography in general. Enjoy.

http://www.joemcnally.com/blog/2014/01/06/off-to-a-rip-roaring-start/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+joemcnally+%28Joe+McNally%27s+Blog%29



nickjohnson
Registered: Sep 15, 2009
Total Posts: 972
Country: United Kingdom

Jeff W. wrote:
Wonderful photographs Nick. The first image (i.e. 22:00hrs) is my personal favorite. The soft tonalities you're getting with the winter light is fantastic. Are those lobster traps? Certainly not something we see in Arizona - regardless of the season.



Thanks Jeff. Yes, I've always understood that they are lobster pots – I have no idea if they might trap a crab as well. I find it deeply comforting that you don't have those pots in Arizona! At least that's one neuron I still have working.
The winter light around here can be very good. The harbour / cove in the three images is all in shadow – so the processing is biased toward a pleasing result rather than technical accuracy. Some days we get continuous overcast, which is generally hopeless – except when very bright – which is excellent for rock formation abstracts. Other days we get clear blue and white puffy – that's great because with the sun so low in the sky, happy hour lasts all day. Down side is that “day” at this time of year is only about 8 hrs at best.



tom cardin
Registered: Mar 08, 2005
Total Posts: 1991
Country: United States

My Son, is building a Bobcat, with over 100 inches of wing span. He is taking it to a scale show, this weekend, so it can be seen before covering.
Full scale is very pretty.


Tom



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