Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel
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Wrei
Registered: Aug 01, 2008
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Jay, seems the props should be oriented on two perpendicular planes such as +.

Edit for TOPP:







Tim Adams
Registered: Jan 01, 2004
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We can solve all this by having the pilots think about us photogs and properly shut the engine down to achieve artistic perfection.



Jeff W.
Registered: Feb 09, 2008
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Jan-Arie wrote:
awesome video Mark

+1 Mark.



stevezzzz
Registered: Aug 01, 2010
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MMcGrath wrote:
FlyingPhotog wrote:
Just as fodder for the discussion, I took the upper left blade and simply Copy, Paste, Flip for each of the four blades... The tips are all tangential to each other.

I can now see where I was off...

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Jay,

I think part of the problem gets introduced when you flip the blade.
Instead of flipping the blade which mirrors the prop and reverses the pitch / twist of the blade compared to what it should be, paste that layer as a new image and then rotate it 90 degrees.
Do this twice more and it should work out with the blade tips & cuffs all in the correct pitch / twist.

Mark


That will work well enough; although it still won't be perfect, because there's a subtle asymmetry introduced between the top and bottom of the prop disc due to the fact that your eye point isn't quite in line with the prop shaft. Not one person in 10,000 would notice it, though.



Bill Gass
Registered: Feb 09, 2006
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MMcGrath wrote:
The other day I posted a couple of links to some photos a mate of mine took enroute to a carrier.
He's now uploaded the approach & landing video.

http://vimeo.com/m/72660126

BAD AZZ-



FlyingPhotog
Registered: May 09, 2008
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MMcGrath wrote:
FlyingPhotog wrote:
Just as fodder for the discussion, I took the upper left blade and simply Copy, Paste, Flip for each of the four blades... The tips are all tangential to each other.

I can now see where I was off...




Jay,

I think part of the problem gets introduced when you flip the blade.
Instead of flipping the blade which mirrors the prop and reverses the pitch / twist of the blade compared to what it should be, paste that layer as a new image and then rotate it 90 degrees.
Do this twice more and it should work out with the blade tips & cuffs all in the correct pitch / twist.

Mark


Fair enough, but I think fixing the gross errors of relative placement and alignment will do the job. The biggest hurdle will be the reflection of the top right blade in the canopy. May need to copy, paste, flip and morph the top left reflection to "invent" one for the top right.

GAH...!

Cool video btw. Nice to see the raw footage without blaring music and bad editing a la "cruise videos"

Anyone else think the plane handler who is in the shot last is female?



Wrei
Registered: Aug 01, 2008
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Jay, are you talking about the person who squatted when the F-18 landed?



FlyingPhotog
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No, the very last Yellow Shirt directing the COD to parking. He/She gives the "Hold" and then two kinda "Watusi" moves and then holds up one fist with the other arm across the stomach. Just about the last 10 seconds. The last pose just struck me as decidedly female or at least feminine.



Angry
Registered: Nov 08, 2011
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FlyingPhotog wrote:
A couple chunks of the aforementioned aluminum tubage...






I think some of my Camaro parts are on the "chunck of Alumimum tubage"...

The US ecenomy should be picking up, the Aussie dollar has dropped form $1.03 cents down to $0.91C, luckily I paid for the MA2A Flights when it was at $0.98C
However Im sure my injections to the US economy through Camaro parts purchases have stimulted something...

Al



Angry
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[Mark

That will work well enough; although it still won't be perfect, because there's a subtle asymmetry introduced between the top and bottom of the prop disc due to the fact that your eye point isn't quite in line with the prop shaft. Not one person in 10,000 would notice it, though.


Tangential tips......( say that ten times quickly ) ....hmmm a new vernacular for the English language,....
Just remember you saw it first here on MA2A......

As for the one in 10,000,........MA2A were onto it like a fat kid ona cupcake,....but then again ...we are pretty good...
Especially the Jay contingent...

Al



JWilsonphoto
Registered: Jan 16, 2002
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FlyingPhotog wrote:
No, the very last Yellow Shirt directing the COD to parking. He/She gives the "Hold" and then two kinda "Watusi" moves and then holds up one fist with the other arm across the stomach. Just about the last 10 seconds. The last pose just struck me as decidedly female or at least feminine.



"Don't ask, don't tell"........................



JWilsonphoto
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Don't you wish you had just moved the dang prop Jay?!



stevezzzz
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Angry wrote:

Tangential tips......( say that ten times quickly ) ....hmmm a new vernacular for the English language,....
Just remember you saw it first here on MA2A......

As for the one in 10,000,........MA2A were onto it like a fat kid ona cupcake,....but then again ...we are pretty good...
Especially the Jay contingent...

Al


No, I was talking about the chances anyone would notice after Jay followed Mark's suggestions.



Tim Adams
Registered: Jan 01, 2004
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First flight of Voodoo since just after Jimmy's crash in 2011. Race Merlin in, Hinton Jr. on the stick.

http://vimeo.com/72768557



FlyingPhotog
Registered: May 09, 2008
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JWilsonphoto wrote:
Don't you wish you had just moved the dang prop Jay?!


As a matter of fact, yes, yes I do...



msalvetti
Registered: Dec 20, 2003
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FlyingPhotog wrote:
No, the very last Yellow Shirt directing the COD to parking. He/She gives the "Hold" and then two kinda "Watusi" moves and then holds up one fist with the other arm across the stomach. Just about the last 10 seconds. The last pose just struck me as decidedly female or at least feminine.


Funny you should mention that, but yes, I had the exact same thought. Wasn't even thinking gender (although probably in my head I was chauvinistically assuming these were all guys) until that last pose.

Mark



JWilsonphoto
Registered: Jan 16, 2002
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FlyingPhotog wrote:
JWilsonphoto wrote:
Don't you wish you had just moved the dang prop Jay?!


As a matter of fact, yes, yes I do...


A "teaching moment" Grasshopper.........



JWilsonphoto
Registered: Jan 16, 2002
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Al! Thank you very much Sir!! Your Violet Crumble care package has been received and efficiently dealt with!! Just remember, "bribery will get you everywhere.........."

Thanks Buddy!



NightOwl Cat
Registered: Feb 19, 2007
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yes, definitely female. watch when she folds her arms.

FlyingPhotog wrote:

Cool video btw. Nice to see the raw footage without blaring music and bad editing a la "cruise videos"

Anyone else think the plane handler who is in the shot last is female?



cbrandt
Registered: Aug 03, 2006
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so GF showed me on her FB page where a friend of hers accompanied some little kids to the airport .. they got the TOUR ...... and here they all are taking photos in the Spitfire hangar -- standing in front of planes like that yellow British plane . a spitfire . the t-39 . that plane up top on this page 3852 that I've forgotten what it is and a bunch .. of foreign cars !!!!!!!!!!! and like me, not even knowing what they are looking at ............. ;(



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