Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel
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stevezzzz
Registered: Aug 01, 2010
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JimClark wrote:
mot sure where to put this question. I would like to improve on sharpness of my plane images especially the old warbirds. Working on slower shutter speeds but still am not getting them as sharp as i would like. I use a 7d and a monopod and a canon 100-400 got tips on getting good prop blur and sharp images? Been using 125th which seems to be a good amount of prop blur. I know some use even slower speeds


@JimClark: Most of the top aviation shooters I know don't use camera support when panning, preferring the freedom to maneuver of going hand-held. The path of an airplane through the sky during a banana pass may be simple enough, but the trajectory from the shooter's point of view is anything but.

1/125 is a good shutter speed for the flat engines, but the round engines will repay your working down toward 1/60th, and a T-6, with only two blades, won't give you a full disc until you go even slower. Helos really need 1/25 or even 1/15 for serious rotor blur, but 1/80 will at least show that you're trying. Practice acquiring your panning target off to the side with the tips of your shoes parallel to the runway, so you're square when the subject is directly in front of you and don't have to shift your feet right when they're closest to you.

But mostly it's just practice. Some folks go out and shoot cars on the street just to keep their panning chops in shape.

[edit for TOPP: I'm on the iPad again, so it's slim pickins. How about an aerial view of Monument Valley in a dust storm?]



JWilsonphoto
Registered: Jan 16, 2002
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Awww Mike! I would have loved to have grabbed lunch. Keep me posted. My schedule is going to be calming over the next few months, it seems, although I really don't see any point in completely hanging up the spurs, just doesn't seem right. let me know if you get anywhere near, we'll figure something out. If you have a race in the area, I'll come shoot with you.



JWilsonphoto
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And there you have it, from one of the best shooters around.



JWilsonphoto
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"But mostly it's just practice. Some folks go out and shoot cars on the street just to keep their panning chops in shape. "......

And some go to LeMans!



Jeff W.
Registered: Feb 09, 2008
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Your just killing me with your aerial landscapes Steve - tremendous.

It's fire season here in balmy Arizona. A little helper returning from the last drop of the day…



JWilsonphoto
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Beautiful tones Jeff!



Jeff W.
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JWilsonphoto wrote:
Beautiful tones Jeff!


Thanks Jim. The tones are His, I was just standing in a good place.

Edit to add some very very sad news. It appears that 19 fire fighters were killed this afternoon in the Yarnell Fire (north of Wickenburg). In addition, half the homes in this small town have been lost. Apparently, an unexpected thunderstorm approached, the wind switched suddenly and the fire fighters were trapped. Prayers to the families that are impacted by this tremendous loss of life.

The DC-10 tanker shown in my image is one of two working the fire today. They are also using helos and air tractors.



JWilsonphoto
Registered: Jan 16, 2002
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Isn't that the Truth Jeff! It's all "His". Unpopular perspective these days, but one day all those knees will bow as well.

Tragic news re: those fire fighters. Prayers indeed.



msalvetti
Registered: Dec 20, 2003
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stevez wrote:

@JimClark: Most of the top aviation shooters I know don't use camera support when panning, preferring the freedom to maneuver of going hand-held. The path of an airplane through the sky during a banana pass may be simple enough, but the trajectory from the shooter's point of view is anything but.

1/125 is a good shutter speed for the flat engines, but the round engines will repay your working down toward 1/60th, and a T-6, with only two blades, won't give you a full disc until you go even slower. Helos really need 1/25 or even 1/15 for serious rotor blur, but 1/80 will at least show that you're trying. Practice acquiring your panning target off to the side with the tips of your shoes parallel to the runway, so you're square when the subject is directly in front of you and don't have to shift your feet right when they're closest to you.

But mostly it's just practice. Some folks go out and shoot cars on the street just to keep their panning chops in shape.


The other possibility is Jim might be expecting too much.

Steve, even with good panning, what would you say is an acceptable percentage of sharp keepers? Maybe 5-10%?

Mark



JWilsonphoto
Registered: Jan 16, 2002
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Well a guy can live with one or two perfect images out of a sequence, but when you get in sync with the subject and your gear, you should be able to hit 75% on any given day. Of course that depends upon the gear you are shooting with. The 1DX and series II lenses will give you that percentage and higher.



carnac
Registered: May 27, 2006
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From the Nellis air show last year. Doesn't look very promising for a show this year, budget cuts and such.

I like this sequence.

Jim



mrkyle
Registered: Jul 06, 2008
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carnac wrote:
From the Nellis air show last year. Doesn't look very promising for a show this year, budget cuts and such.

I like this sequence.

Jim



Jim,

I also like the sequence, well done.

Matt



carnac
Registered: May 27, 2006
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Thanks - I had just purchased my 100-400L shortly before this shoot.

Jim



mrkyle
Registered: Jul 06, 2008
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futurshox wrote:
You got some seriously nice shots there, Matt. I love the first one of Jane, she is just sitting there, no worries, just out taking some fresh air :-)

I love the head on shot of Fifi and the last yellow T-28 too. Very restful shots, somehow...



Thanks so much for having a look. Wish the sky was more photogenic on the shots of Jane. First time for me to see a yellow Trojan. It sure would be easy to find in the sky, and it was pretty hard to miss it on the ground!



JWilsonphoto
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Welcome Jim! Unique perspectives!



stevezzzz
Registered: Aug 01, 2010
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JWilsonphoto wrote:
Well a guy can live with one or two perfect images out of a sequence, but when you get in sync with the subject and your gear, you should be able to hit 75% on any given day. Of course that depends upon the gear you are shooting with. The 1DX and series II lenses will give you that percentage and higher.


*sigh*

Some people are just better at this game. I'll take the "one or two perfect images out of a sequence" any day of the week, especially at prop-blur shutter speeds with a 500mm.



JWilsonphoto
Registered: Jan 16, 2002
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I agree Zim. The keepers obviously are variable depending upon body, lenses, .........caffeine



futurshox
Registered: Feb 15, 2008
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no kidding.



JWilsonphoto
Registered: Jan 16, 2002
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Here's a sad commentary on where aviation photography is commercially speaking. Beechcraft, whose single engine product bumps 3/4 of a million dollars, has these images on their site, to entice the buyer. Not only are they mediocre at best, the photographer, the graphics department/ad agency, nobody, even cared enough to remove the sensor dust.

I went to take one last look around at the choices prior to our meeting with Cessna this afternoon, and was underwhelmed by the photography.



JWilsonphoto
Registered: Jan 16, 2002
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Country: United States

Not like the old days..................



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