Zion- at the beginning of winter
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Charlie Shugart
Registered: Feb 06, 2007
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West Temple and Towers of the Virgins.
Behind the valley museum.



nick53097
Registered: Apr 19, 2008
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Great, just great!
Thank you for sharing



Scott Kroeker
Registered: Jan 10, 2008
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I'll echo Nick! Very nice! When was this taken?



philtax
Registered: Dec 23, 2004
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Wow Charlie - that one's amazing!



Nigel Turner
Registered: Aug 02, 2004
Total Posts: 485
Country: United States

Hi Charlie,

I've followed your work for years here on FM and I have to say that without doubt that you have the absolute worse post processing techniques that have been available to man. Sometimes you manage to capture an image that is not bad looking, but your interpretation is lacking.. to say the least.

Here's my offer Charlie.. I want you to achieve a standard better than you have now and one that makes you stand out from the crowd. I want your images to have a new light, and you to have a new light on the images that you capture.

I also want you to understand how to post process your images from the capture stage to understanding the how to present images.

Charlie.. I would really like to take this opportunity to offer you a free workshop with me, any trip you would like but you have to provide your own flight. I'll take care of you!!

Up to you Charlie!



Charlie Shugart
Registered: Feb 06, 2007
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Country: United States

Nigel Turner wrote:
Hi Charlie,

I've followed your work for years here on FM and I have to say that without doubt that you have the absolute worse post processing techniques that have been available to man. Sometimes you manage to capture an image that is not bad looking, but your interpretation is lacking.. to say the least.

Here's my offer Charlie.. I want you to achieve a standard better than you have now and one that makes you stand out from the crowd. I want your images to have a new light, and you to have a new light on the images that you capture.

I also want you to understand how to post process your images from the capture stage to understanding the how to present images.

Charlie.. I would really like to take this opportunity to offer you a free workshop with me, any trip you would like but you have to provide your own flight. I'll take care of you!!

Up to you Charlie!


Nigel- I don't even know how to begin a response to your comments.
Although your words seem to be helpfully stated, there is a venomous aspect that can't be denied.
Everyone is entitled to his or her own reactions to photographs, but if a person feels as much contempt as you do, it's doubtful that expressing it on a friendly forum such as FM is the right way to go.
Take into account that you and I are complete strangers to each other- all I can say is that I am stunned by your comments- but will soon be completely over it.
I suspect that your damning words say much more about you than they do about my posts.
Charlie
PS Don't miss today's post on the redwoods (it'll be up in a few minutes).
PPS- I'll pass on your offer (I don't like to fly ).



roguecoolman
Registered: Jul 07, 2005
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Ah the towers. I was there few weeks ago and it really is one of the nicest views and the easiest to get to. That cloud action is nice!

Lol Charlie, the response from Nigel is like winning the lottery but you can only get it if you get kicked in the nads :P I think perhaps the offer/comment might have been better as a PM thing. I mean its really not something that needs to be public for every one to see.


Jason



Nigel Turner
Registered: Aug 02, 2004
Total Posts: 485
Country: United States

Hi Charlie,

Well I'm very sorry that you took my words the way you did as that was certainly not the way it was meant.

My only intention was an offer to you to improve the way you see and interpret your images before and after the capture stage. I certainly didn't feel that I was being 'venomous' in the least in my comment. But I will stand by my view that your images are severely let down by your processing. My offer to you was heartfelt as I know that you are dedicated to photography and would like to think that you would like to achieve the highest standard that you can.

I'm sorry that you took my intentions and charity the wrong way... but good luck Charlie in your future photographic adventures.



Steve Sieren
Registered: Feb 18, 2007
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I would of taken that spot! Looks like you ran into some great conditions Charlie!



Kee Woo Rhee
Registered: Dec 25, 2011
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The more I look at this picture, the more I get drawn to the beautiful scene. Wonderful angle and composition to get the temple and towers come alive. Great.

Kee



AMaji
Registered: Apr 19, 2012
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Charlie,
That is an unique take on an iconic image.



phlegmon
Registered: Jan 02, 2011
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Nigel, what don't you like about the photo?

Charlie, don't take this the wrong way. I'm trying to learn.



Callisto
Registered: Apr 25, 2008
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Those clouds are amazing as is the scene. The only drawback is the harsh light and here it's handled about as well as possible.



CW100
Registered: Apr 03, 2009
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harsh light but I like the view



Charlie Shugart
Registered: Feb 06, 2007
Total Posts: 28515
Country: United States

Thanks guys.
The image was posted last November, and I had hoped it would fade away because I was so turned off by Nigel's insults (and then pretend apology).
But I didn't want to ignore the polite people who took the time to make comments.
So again- thank you.
Charlie