1DMKII or 7D
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morenoar
Registered: Jan 13, 2004
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Country: United States

I am looking for possible switch of my gear. I LOVE my 1DMKII for everything but HIgh ISO pictures. Wondering if trading for 7D would be wise? What are your suggestions?



oldrattler
Registered: Aug 04, 2009
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Country: United States

I own a 7D and have owned the 1DII, 1DIIn, and the 1DsII... The 7D is a respectable camera if used within it's limits... There is noise at higher ISO's but I can not speculate on the acceptability as I never shoot over 400 ISO... You do have double the pixels, Live-view, and a far better LCD screen... I say do it if you want newer sensor, etc...



Peacekpr
Registered: Sep 12, 2009
Total Posts: 113
Country: Canada

I run the 7D and 1DsIII. I find the combination of a FF sensor and a crop sensor gives me awesome versitility. Having said that though, the 7D is a very good camera. It is superior to the 1DII in just about every arena. If keeping your 1D and picking up a 7D is an option then that should be considered.
Have you considered a used 1Ds MkII or MkIII?
Also remember the 7D is a 1.6 crop vice the 1.3 of your 1D. The 1Ds is a a full frame... no crop factor.



jasonpatrick
Registered: Jul 08, 2010
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Country: United States

If you love your 1dII, get a 1dIII. It's a full stop better ISO, micro adjust, better rear LCD, small MP increase, but most importantly, the same type of easily workable files. The 7D can produce excellent results but could have you doing more post processing than you're used to.



JohnBrose
Registered: Aug 06, 2004
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I would suggest 1d3 about the same for noise, but you would be more used to it's usability. Also built better and more responsive.
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morenoar
Registered: Jan 13, 2004
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Thank you all. That is another thought, the 1DMKIII. I just thought the 7D would be better at higher ISO's than 1DMKII or III. Would LOVE to get the IV, but funds are low. The reason for thinking, possible wedding ventures. I will keep one of my II, for sports



BrianO
Registered: Aug 21, 2008
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morenoar wrote: ...That is another thought, the 1DMKIII. I just thought the 7D would be better at higher ISO's than 1DMKII or III. ...The reason for thinking, possible wedding ventures. I will keep one of my II, for sports

If you are keeping a 1D Mark II, and looking for a second body for weddings, I'd suggest a used 5D or 5D Mark II. They have excellent low-light capability and wonderful image quality. The autofocus isn't up to the sports-shooter abilities of the 1D-series bodies, but for weddings that's not a serious issue.

With the larger sensels that the full-frame sensor size permits, using the same ISO settings as a cropped-sensor camera the 5D can gather more light for less noise. The wide end of your zoom lenses, and all your fixed focal-length lenses, will also have a wider field of view at the same distances. (The shorter "long end" isn't an issue for wedding portraits and reception candids.)

That said, I've used a 20D and a 7D for weddings and events, and they've worked fine within their limits.



Peacekpr
Registered: Sep 12, 2009
Total Posts: 113
Country: Canada

While many here say the 5DII has "excellent" low-light capability, I've found it paled beside the 7D in that regard.

You have 2 1DIIs, I see your delema. For wedding work you need 2 bodies for sure. Second shooter can also be a bonus.



Gunzorro
Registered: Aug 28, 2010
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Country: United States

I agree with BrianO, the 5D2 is a terrific imaging machine and used bargain right now. Combined with your 1D2, you'll have a great set-up. Perhaps later you can add a 1D3.

Like you, I'm keeping one 1D2 no matter what, because you simply can't get any money for them. Even if you only use it occasionally, this is a great asset that still takes excellent pictures when high MP or high ISO aren't needed.



Al Goldis
Registered: Feb 05, 2002
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Country: United States

Obviously the 7D has a higher top end for ISO settings. And it does ISO 3200 better than the Mark II. But at the pixel level at ISO 1600, images from the 1D Mark II will be cleaner than the 7D in my experience. Of course the 7D has a lot more pixels so if you downsize a 7D image to 8.2Mpixels it will look better than the 1DII.

Still, I never cared for the look of 7D images (really nice camera otherwise, I just wish it had better image quality).



bignorm
Registered: Feb 25, 2006
Total Posts: 567
Country: United States

They are both great cameras.. the 7d has a lot of bells and
Whistles with the nice af and Video but I couldnt give up the 1d mkII for it.. something about those files...



bignorm
Registered: Feb 25, 2006
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The 1d mkII lcd is a pain.. might I add.. once you gain confidence in the camera, it becomes less of an issue..



Pixel Perfect
Registered: Aug 16, 2004
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Al Goldis wrote:
Obviously the 7D has a higher top end for ISO settings. And it does ISO 3200 better than the Mark II. But at the pixel level at ISO 1600, images from the 1D Mark II will be cleaner than the 7D in my experience. Of course the 7D has a lot more pixels so if you downsize a 7D image to 8.2Mpixels it will look better than the 1DII.

Still, I never cared for the look of 7D images (really nice camera otherwise, I just wish it had better image quality).


Actually I find 7D ISO 1600 about same at pixel level which is remarkable given 7D has 3.6x the pixel density. 1D II is a great camera and O owned one for 51/2 years, but I'd take 7D nowadays, or get 1D III, which is better than both IMO.



Mr645
Registered: Jun 07, 2002
Total Posts: 1303
Country: United States

I still think the 1DII and 1DsII were ahead of their time. Even today they can handle just about anything. And based on used prices, those two cameras are the finest bargains around.



convergent
Registered: Jan 16, 2005
Total Posts: 626
Country: United States

If you like the 1D2 and can find a good used 1D3, then I'd go that route. I just sold my 1D3 for money that makes me cry after what I paid for it new. I think its roughly in the same price range as a new 7D now. I sold it to a guy that had a 7D and wanted an upgrade. I routinely shot the 1D3 at ISO3200 for sports, and some times would push it to 6400. I don't have a 7D, but from what I've heard from others, it seems that the 1D3 is a little better. Reality is they are both great bodies and not really a bad choice there.

I had 1D2 and 1D2n before 1D3... and the 1D3 is a major step up in every way from those. I settled on the 1D3 and kept it from when it was announced until this week. And it was barely broken in.



jcolwell
Registered: Feb 10, 2005
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Country: Canada

I'd go for a 1DIII, too.



firstgear99
Registered: Nov 03, 2012
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Country: United States

I have the 7D,5DmkII, 1DmkII, 1DsmkIII

My preference in order of what I like to use and what sits on the shelf...

1DsmkIII - WOW is all I can say on this camera....love the shots that come right out of the camera and dont need any PP. My daughter who shots a 5D asked recently what camera I used to get such rich blue skies and did I do any PP.....spectacular camera!

The 7D is what my wife uses and it takes very nice photos, but in my opinion not as great as the 1DsmkIII

The 5DmkII was my camera before the 1DsmkIII, it now sits on the camera shelf at home along with the 1DmkII. I would get the 7D before the 1DmkII.

Good luck on your decision.....the only draw back with the 1DsmkIII is it doesnt have the ISO capability that the 7D has....nor the 5DmkII. But then it was designed to be a studio camera.....but it is GREAT!

shot with 1DsmkIII with 24-105IS, right out of camera.....


I should add that I have become a full frame camera body junkie......



Pixel Perfect
Registered: Aug 16, 2004
Total Posts: 19756
Country: Australia

firstgear99 wrote:


shot with 1DsmkIII with 24-105IS, right out of camera.....


I should add that I have become a full frame camera body junkie......


I didn't know the 1 series had a thumbnail output mode. Must check the manual again.



galenapass
Registered: Feb 09, 2006
Total Posts: 3605
Country: United States

Hi ISO 1DMKIII:







ISO 3200. Some noise but not too bad (this one is a heavy crop).


firstgear99
Registered: Nov 03, 2012
Total Posts: 344
Country: United States

Pixel Perfect wrote:
firstgear99 wrote:


shot with 1DsmkIII with 24-105IS, right out of camera.....


I should add that I have become a full frame camera body junkie......


I didn't know the 1 series had a thumbnail output mode. Must check the manual again.


Sorry, I use Fotki to store my photos and don't know how to upload large photos......sorry, live with my thumbnails....



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