Canon's new MAP pricing begins today!
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Rickuz
Registered: May 22, 2012
Total Posts: 455
Country: Sweden

So it would seem that Canon is stomping down on dealers offering lower prices. B&H has already responded with raising the price of the 5D mark III back up to over 3k, including the $200 rebate.

"Canon is starting the enforcement of their MAP (Minimum Advertised Price) pricing rules today. Some camera bodies and lenses will see an immediate increase in their base price."

Source: http://www.canonrumors.com/2012/11/canons-map-pricing-goes-into-full-effect-today/



jcolwell
Registered: Feb 10, 2005
Total Posts: 19162
Country: Canada

Let's hope it loosens up soon.



sailingpilot
Registered: Mar 05, 2008
Total Posts: 269
Country: United States

Noticed the price increase at B&H this morning. A $400 difference.

It's OK Canon - I'm very patient - I'll wait...



gse53
Registered: Feb 13, 2004
Total Posts: 308
Country: United States

Why should they care if they are moving product? I do not understand how this works. Don't they get their wholesale price no matter what the retail is? Sony does the same thing with Playstations.



GC5
Registered: Jun 05, 2008
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Country: United States


It does seem a very counterproductive program, although it probably enables smaller and local retailers to be more competitive.

Blame Ted Olsen: http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=15925807009998997000&q=leegin+creative&hl=en&as_sdt=2,33



Wahoowa
Registered: Feb 13, 2011
Total Posts: 1524
Country: United States

I think we have been spoiled in the past. I was thinking that 6D would go as low as $1,700 by next summer. Now, let's see how it goes from here.



Ralph Conway
Registered: Jul 31, 2008
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Country: Germany

Imo its just on paper. It is MAP: minimum ADVERTISED price.

It does not have anything to do with your dealers "privat" offered sales price, imo.
It only prevents them (dealers) from loosing sales by advertised low online offers.

Ralph



Ralph Conway
Registered: Jul 31, 2008
Total Posts: 3757
Country: Germany

Wahoowa wrote:
I think we have been spoiled in the past. I was thinking that 6D would go as low as $1,700 by next summer. Now, let's see how it goes from here.


I am pretty sure it will be around 1700 here in germany next summer (instead of 1999). Nikons D600 here is a competitor. And its price was put down about 250 here in germany from first day, sales started one day after 6D was announce).



cineski
Registered: Oct 22, 2004
Total Posts: 4219
Country: United States

I bought the 5D3 right away when it was $3500. I need a 2nd one. I won't be buying another for more than $2900 and preferably $2800. I'm also patient.



Wahoowa
Registered: Feb 13, 2011
Total Posts: 1524
Country: United States

Ralph Conway wrote:
Imo its just on paper. It is MAP: minimum ADVERTISED price.

It does not have anything to do with your dealers "privat" offered sales price, imo.
It only prevents them (dealers) from loosing sales by advertised low online offers.

Ralph


I believe it will, but that still depends though. It will depend on how Canon thinks they stand in photography business. Will they dare to cut big accounts like Adorama or B&H if they advertise below MAP?

Golf business has been this way for years. Retailers cannot even allow coupons to apply to their products. I know one famous golf pro shop that usually sells their stuffs at a really really low price. If you play golf (in the US) and you visit golf forums regularly, you might have heard of "Discount Dan". They never advertise their prices, but it's been well known to many that they sell way below MAP. Last time I called, their Ping account was cut for a year. That's why, if you're in golfing market, you'll see that most retailers won't risk advertising their prices below the minimum as required.

Regarding the laws, I think there is always a loop hole both ways. Retailers can just advertise it as 'price too low to advertise' or they can list it on eBay. On the other hand, manufacturers can cut the retailers' account by saying the marketing strategy in the area has changed.

Now, back to photography. If, say, Adorama makes another spot sale on eBay for 5D Mark III for $2,750, we'll have to see how it pans out. Canon might not want to risk cutting big account like Adorama. But, who knows? B&H may put some pressure on Canon as well.

One thing for sure. I don't think anyone who wants Canon gear will find something cheap in the next few weeks from an authorized dealer.



matt4626
Registered: Feb 16, 2004
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Country: United States

Lets see Canon's sales are down so they raise prices.....humm.



gdanmitchell
Registered: Jun 28, 2009
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I think that a lot of people will wait... There will be sales... Prices will come down...

Dan



cordellwillis
Registered: Aug 24, 2004
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Country: United States

I can wait too. I'm perfectly happy with my 5Dc and 7D even though I was seriously considering getting a 5DIII soon. Canon made the decision for me and I'm cool with it.



Rickuz
Registered: May 22, 2012
Total Posts: 455
Country: Sweden

Well it is a bit disappointing that they are trying to increase prices instead of lowering them, but yeah, waiting is not a big problem.

Tbh, I'm waiting for the 5D4.



Gochugogi
Registered: Jun 25, 2003
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Country: United States

The 5D3 is still $2,994.99 at Amazon.



Bsmooth
Registered: Mar 22, 2005
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Theres always Canons Loyalty program, or did those go up as well? The way the economy is I'm sort of surprised, or did Canon think everyone is independently wealthy ?



ssc45
Registered: Jul 18, 2010
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Country: United States

I was just getting ready to order two L lens from B&H. I guess I will just sit on the sidelines for awhile. Or, I will look for a deal on the used equipment. I am patient and not in a hurry. It will be interesting to see how this shakes out. Will sales decrease for canon? For B&H? etc. I may just rent a lens when needed. Maybe the difference is that this is a hobby for me, so the purchase is not a necessity. Also, it may further backfire on them as I may just decide I don't really want those two lens. I guess it was a bit of impulse that I was going to buy the lens. Maybe I should thank Canon for saving me money.

Cheers, Steve



NCAndy
Registered: Jan 13, 2006
Total Posts: 834
Country: United States

Ralph Conway wrote:
Imo its just on paper. It is MAP: minimum ADVERTISED price.

It does not have anything to do with your dealers "privat" offered sales price, imo.
It only prevents them (dealers) from loosing sales by advertised low online offers.

Ralph


That has been my experience with other items whose brands used a MAP system. Either the vendor had a different (lower) price when the item was added to the cart online or I was given a lower price when I called. It makes for a bit more work for me as a consumer to search out the lowest price from a reliable vendor. I had planned to purchase a couple 600rt flashes and the controller but prices went up so I'll wait. I expect there will be sales around the holidays. If not then Canon might find a big chunk of coal in their stocking this year. lol



Wahoowa
Registered: Feb 13, 2011
Total Posts: 1524
Country: United States

Bsmooth wrote:
Theres always Canons Loyalty program, or did those go up as well? The way the economy is I'm sort of surprised, or did Canon think everyone is independently wealthy ?


I think that works differently as the Canon Loyalty Program supplies refurbished products.



erikburd
Registered: Feb 03, 2010
Total Posts: 533
Country: United States

I think the folks at Canon have completely lost their minds. Talk about counterproductive - sales are down, let's raise prices!

That's okay - I can wait. Santa is coming soon...they'll be desperate to sell stuff then, just like last year.



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